Guild Wars 2

Warning: long post because i just have to let it out. -not a rant post maybe just a little-

I wont disagree that the process should not be a grind. However, the grind should be FUN! I bought HoT hopefully to have something to do (bunch of quests to venture on) and so when the HoT hits, I unlocked precursor mastery and was really excited about it until i read a post on reddit that the cost is going to higher or abit lesser than the listed price on TP and i just felt so disappointed.

the first tier of the crafting is the best in my own opinion. (at least coming from an explorer-achiever type of gamer)

I don’t understand why not instead have the precursor crafted be account bound, I won’t mind expanding the recipe to be longer, I won’t mind RNG involved, just leave MASSIVE gold sink out since gift of fortune is involved anyways and not to mentioned the other gifts.

If Anet is afraid that everyone is going to rush thru’ the crafting anyways and eventually get everything but isn’t creating the weapons allowing players to get it in the first place?

• 1) I would time-gate the kitten out of crafting at least, we have 20 1st gen legendaries – make it at least 2 weeks to get a precursor crafted and we can break down the time required for the components to craft, etc, smthg like that. In all honesty, as long as I am making progress, I would not mind the time-gate for the precursor (smthg legendary)

• 2) Go ahead and make a RNG drop item in the dungeons. Since its there already, I do not understand why the decision to “kill off” dungeon. This can at least get players to do dungeons and the scene is not entirely dead or near-dead on LFG.

• 3) warning strong language I would argue that to hell with the TP gold flippers with wings. Not to mention that the 1st-gens have been around for a long while and some really rich minority are already owning every one of it. Worried that the market will crash? Maybe you can allow precursor to be salvaged in easing the building of legendary armour. (so this will allow those ppl who already own all legendaries to do the quests?)

tl;rt : i really like the designer’s job on the 1st tier collection whereby everything is so thematically aligned and its really fun! Hopefully, the entire process can be somewhat similar to the 1st tier collection only, wont mind a fair bit of gold sink but not too much. The materials can be for example making players going around Tyria searching for a suitable kind of wood to craft the legend and in order to do so, players have to harvest all around Tyria. (maybe item unlock upon harvesting the 20th wood per map, if a map is checked, player move on to the next, so there’s RNG involved and player can go either “YAY im lucky” or “kitten I really have to go all the way to the last map for this.”) at the end of the day, it can be memorable/legendary.

just my 2cents.

edit: typos

Superfrick.1536:

Just…play? I’ve been trying for THREE YEARS to complete a Bifrost. Just “playing the game” doesn’t net you the goods. Right now I have everything except the kitten ed precursor. And the entire second rank of the precursor is a big “screw you” to me who has no where near the remaining materials nor money to buy all the Spiritwood and other mats I need.

Took me one year to save up enough money to buy Juggernaut. They don’t just mean “play the game and it’ll magically come to you”. They mean “Play the game with a goal but don’t chase after it obsessively.”

All I did was play the market. Checked up on it 3-4 times a week when I needed to. Fairly effortless honestly. Then I had a friend who busted her butt and got it in 3 months. I think that’s fair.

SeriousSituation.3462:

Superfrick.1536:

Just…play? I’ve been trying for THREE YEARS to complete a Bifrost. Just “playing the game” doesn’t net you the goods. Right now I have everything except the kitten ed precursor. And the entire second rank of the precursor is a big “screw you” to me who has no where near the remaining materials nor money to buy all the Spiritwood and other mats I need.

Took me one year to save up enough money to buy Juggernaut. They don’t just mean “play the game and it’ll magically come to you”. They mean “Play the game with a goal but don’t chase after it obsessively.”

All I did was play the market. Checked up on it 3-4 times a week when I needed to. Fairly effortless honestly. Then I had a friend who busted her butt and got it in 3 months. I think that’s fair.

Okay, for one let’s discard the notion that I have somehow NOT been playing the game with a GOAL to get my legendary. Because I have. I’ve done every. single. bit. of PVE content prior to HOT and some of it many, many times over THREE YEARS. “All I did was play the Market” yeah? well that’s not “playing the game” that’s “playing the market” yes, GET RICH NOW, SIX EASY STEPS, bla bla bla. Promises that somehow are vague and yet unrepeatable. I do not doubt your success but if it were as easy to repeat, somehow everyone would sprout legendaries out of their butts, no? I doubt there’s anyone out there saying “Aaaah, no. I’d much rather not be carrying that much gold around. I’m allergic to wealth.”

Okay so heres my ideas for this, (btw it is long but trust me you’ll love it)

1) I think time gated is a perfect idea but i know with sunrise off the bat its 30 Delrimor Steel Ingots and thats just the first tier id expect that more on the last tier.

2)I think a storyline would reflect more the legendary like in regards to learning about the legendary, or like in Sunrise maybe having a quest about defeating some dark energy or mob (which they can make it difficult to beat) and then a blast of light comes it looks peaceful or something. The events right now 80% of them had nothing to do with the description of Sunrise. This will give players more of an enjoying able journey

3) The time or length of getting the pre or the cost of it shouldnt matter, it could be 2,000 ore you need or whatever but in the mini side quest they can reward you with some mats you need for the legendary and it would only be a one time thing, then the rest you farm if you have too

It could take me 6 months to make a pre i dont care, i just want a story attached to it, Anet could make crappy ones for all I care, i just want missions and some that tells me why this legendary is so legendary. Like even if they said in the storyline something about the time gated mats like "The rarest kind of metals can be the only ingredient in making (input legendary here) which will require (input time gated ascended mat here). Then some dialogue of motivation or encouragement on your journey on getting the mats.

Time is not an issue for me, gold is not an issue for me, the issue is i want EXCITEMENT, JOURNEY, ADVENTURE make it LEGENDARY, i want it to be so hard the quests that ppl are like kitten i been stuck in this quest for a month! I want to rush home after work and say "i cant wait to see the next part of my story about (such and such legendary) This is another area of “challenging content” they should have added too, I know it may seem like alot for the devs to make up mini storyline for each legendary, but at first that was the impression I had when they first talked about it and small things like this can make a big impact on the community of players. Ppl love stories remember when you were a kid and had bedtime story about dragons or medival stuff and you wanted to be a warrior and save a princess from a dragon and only the chosen one can pull the legendary weapon from a rock? Well i didnt have bedtime stories when i was a kid but YOU GET THE POINT hahaha

Superfrick.1536:

thehipone.6812:

CorrynnStarr.7942:

thehipone.6812:

It has been out for less than a week. Did people really expect to just be able to bang out Dusk in five days?

speed is only one factor of many in this equation. I dont think OP was thinking he could do it in less then 5 days. I think he is refering more to the fact it costs alot more to make then to buy, that coupled with gated mats etc… It isnt always just about speed here.

But what if you just set it aside as a longer term goal and just play? Salvage drops, mine here and there, make the ingots when you can…every day you get a little closer. Which was, after all, the goal of the precursor crafting- to provide a known path that allows tangible progress beyond simply amassing gold. Prices fluctuate and sure, it may be more expensive right now with everyone rushing, but if you are willing to wait you might find that your normal play has gotten you 75% of the way there and prices for the rest of the things that you need have come down a bit. In the meantime you have enjoyed your playtime, instead of feeling like you’re stuck doing the highest gold/hr thing over and over. It isn’t always just about cost here.

Just…play? I’ve been trying for THREE YEARS to complete a Bifrost. Just “playing the game” doesn’t net you the goods. Right now I have everything except the kitten ed precursor. And the entire second rank of the precursor is a big “screw you” to me who has no where near the remaining materials nor money to buy all the Spiritwood and other mats I need.

Ok, fine, RP-ing in DR will not get you the goods. Virtually anything else will. Even 35 spiritwood is only 250 gold at the currently high prices. If you can amass ~800g worth of mats pre-HoT to make the gift of fortune, you can handle 35 spiritwood. Or just go gather stuff and let it come to you.

I made Spark. It was fun. i liked watching each special item i found be mixed with other stuff through out out Tyria.
The bugs make it incredibly frustrating. Also having to stand around waiting for hours for a single event to happen because, as the same problem with Temples in Orr, people are completing defense events or because the spawn is random (Skritt King). So far almost 2 hours waiting for Nightmare Court to spawn and attack the King which could simply be avoided by, once again, just letting the defense fail but no one will elt it fail.

thehipone.6812:

Superfrick.1536:

thehipone.6812:

CorrynnStarr.7942:

thehipone.6812:

It has been out for less than a week. Did people really expect to just be able to bang out Dusk in five days?

speed is only one factor of many in this equation. I dont think OP was thinking he could do it in less then 5 days. I think he is refering more to the fact it costs alot more to make then to buy, that coupled with gated mats etc… It isnt always just about speed here.

But what if you just set it aside as a longer term goal and just play? Salvage drops, mine here and there, make the ingots when you can…every day you get a little closer. Which was, after all, the goal of the precursor crafting- to provide a known path that allows tangible progress beyond simply amassing gold. Prices fluctuate and sure, it may be more expensive right now with everyone rushing, but if you are willing to wait you might find that your normal play has gotten you 75% of the way there and prices for the rest of the things that you need have come down a bit. In the meantime you have enjoyed your playtime, instead of feeling like you’re stuck doing the highest gold/hr thing over and over. It isn’t always just about cost here.

Just…play? I’ve been trying for THREE YEARS to complete a Bifrost. Just “playing the game” doesn’t net you the goods. Right now I have everything except the kitten ed precursor. And the entire second rank of the precursor is a big “screw you” to me who has no where near the remaining materials nor money to buy all the Spiritwood and other mats I need.

Ok, fine, RP-ing in DR will not get you the goods. Virtually anything else will. Even 35 spiritwood is only 250 gold at the currently high prices. If you can amass ~800g worth of mats pre-HoT to make the gift of fortune, you can handle 35 spiritwood. Or just go gather stuff and let it come to you.

Yeah.. you know what? The actual price of crafting The Legend is higher than just the 250+/- gold for the 35 planks. I was just noting the speedbump that annoyed me the most, especially since it’s requiring ascended materials. The actual crafting cost of the Biftost is ~higher~ than the average TP price for the thing, once you’ve added all the gold together. “A Legendary Journey” my butt.

Chuck.8196:

Not at all. I made Spark in a few hours. There is no time gate so there’s not really anything to complain about. It was not that costly to craft. I don’t think I Spent over 100g. If you play the game you get what you need. Instead of crafting ascnded materials and seling them. Why not save them and use them? No problem. Once the servers are back up I’m going to continue on my second pre for some profit. Should be done in a few hours. Just gotta wait for world Boss rotations.

No way. The Bauxite Event is bugged on Tier 3. Making it impossible to finish the collection..

Unlocked this earlier and I’d like to say I am delighted with this feature. So much in fact, that as soon as I get the gold, I’m going to unlock ALL of them :-)

I’m a huge lover of mapping and I’m getting the xp I need by mapping 14 chars. I mapped Queensdale with my revenant earlier and it got me 545,000xp plus loot and karma. And as xp increases in higher areas I think it will take me about 20 areas of that to get the 12 million plus xp I need total.

I like long term goals and this feature has shown me that I don’t just have to play HoT to enjoy GW2 :-)

For myself … precursor crafting as well as legendary mastery, has been made a waste of time… I have had GW2 since launch, have never done the PVP side… only did WVW to complete the map, haven’t been back in WvW since it no longer became a requirement for map completion, so I have zero shards of glory and zero memory of battle. I still will not play PvP or WvW just because it is a requirement for crafting a precursor, because I prefer the PvE, which is why I purchased the game in the first place. To have a PvP or WvW requirement on a crafting recipe to try to force us to play aspects of a game we don’t enjoy is ludicrous. So for me , I will go back to just playing my PvE areas… relax and enjoy the one aspect and not worry about Mastering any of the Legendary crafting because I will never get passed the first tier.