Guild Wars 2

Dear ArenaNet,

please consider eliminating Snowden Drifts from the dailies rotation. It’s a nice map, don’t get me wrong, but as a daily it is a constant source of frustration.
Some of the events are bugged every time I visit (Ramsey escort), the map is large relative to event frequency, most events are finished within seconds and generally bring out the worst in player behavior, with down leveled players using powerful AOE attacks on mobs which more or less instakill them, making it sometimes impossible to get a tag for a kill, even if you were there at the event.
And judging from the map chat I am not alone in my assessment of that map.

It’s not just Snowden. Any of the starter zones are terrible for it.
They need to remove specific zone event completion from the rotation and put in area zone completion. Use Maguuma Jungle/Wastes, Kryta, etc. instead.

I agree that its easily the worst map for daily completion. There aren’t any larger event chains / meta events, a few of them that are chains get bugged, and for some reason the scaling in this particular zone seems horrid compared to basically any other zone, with enemies dying far too fast to downlevels and the events don’t spawn nearly enough enemies (if you go to most other zones and have a 20-person zerg, you get huge groups of enemies spawning, but Snowden Drifts seems to spawn much less).

That said, I don’t really want to see it removed either. It serves its purpose of getting people to visit the zone, and I think that needs to stay, it just needs to be less frequent. All they really need to do is make it a bit less common (mainly by adding more maps to the daily event completion rotation, thereby reducing the chance of any single map being chosen), fix the events that are broken, and boost the scaling numbers.

After my last few daily events in a low level map, I flat refuse to do them anymore. (And I’m a hard core PvE person). I’ll do the ones in the mid level to level 80 zones but not the low level ones. They’re awful.

Snowden is one of my favourite maps but I just won’t go there when that’s the venue for Daily events. It’s a feeble experience.

Have to agree fully, Snowden becomes a broken mess during the dalies.
Either fix the frikken zone or just throw it out of the rotation.

Pretty much a no brainer what should be done to solve the problem quickly.

The only suggestion I can offer is to look at the wiki for that area to see what events pop and where as some are multi chain events which can be your best luck in getting through the daily quickly. It is discouraging to hear an event put out, race there only to find it has just finished….

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Snowden_Drifts

Some that I have used:

The quaggan escort to Valslake where you first have to defend the quaggan against icebrood in Tromigar Valley and once that is done another event will soon pop where you have to escort them to Valslake. At the lake there at the quaggan town is another event to escort a quaggan emissary to the kodan camp, though I have seen that one bug on occasion.

Escort the Order of Whispers to Jormabakke Stead. That one starts below Snowdrift Haven fort (area where bridge crosses overhead), you see a door and several standing outside. You will see the symbol above one of the NPCs head which means you can talk to him and trigger the event. That one is a three event chain. I believe that one pops reasonably frequently as well.

You can swing by some of the smaller event locations/events in the wiki and might be surprised to find they are up or available to trigger and absolutely no one around.

It is a lot harder to only depend on looking at the map showing for an event or asking in map chat for what events are up. If I find one I do try to put it out with a link to the nearest WP or at least POI. If it is one that needs to be triggered, I put it out in chat and wait for a few moments so folk can get there.

Another good tip is all you need are a few good whacks to get credit for the event – no need to kill everything the whole event – let others have a chance at it too. You do not even have to stay for the whole thing. Often I will get a few hits in (any loot is a good indication you got it) and move on to find another event, rinse and repeat and the daily is done. Of course you do have to stay on the map until the events complete so you get credit!

Hope this helps.

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

Hidori.3472:

It’s a nightmare.
I was leveling in Harathi Hinterlands when the daily popped up.
Ppl camping events and using all the skills they have as that’s a competition who can kill more mobs.
The griefing veteran 80ies are a pita. they know that it’s enough to kill one mob and move to another event, but no sir, they stay there and kill everything they can.

And this of course provokes other players to also dish out max dmg in order to be able to tag at least one mob.

Harathi Hinterlands has a definite issue as it has a lot of bag farmers which makes it a particular problem for a daily. You can get a very large number of bags during the big chain events which makes it hard for folk just trying to get dailies. That is definitely one area they should reconsider not using for a daily…

Those folk are probably not griefing, they are just farming and trying to get as many of those medium supply bags as they can through the event. Price linen and you will see why…

Again, check the wiki because there are a lot of smaller events that pop quickly that you can get there and get done without having to contend with mobs wanting to loot those bags…

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Harathi_Hinterlands

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

I would never do that.

It gives Anet metrics suggesting their dailies are encouraging people to PvP more, instead of telling them that their PvE dailies aren’t enjoyable at all. I feel bad enough going into WvW on double fractals.

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

Yes, but since I have no interest whatsoever in PvP it would be a chore and I always try to have fun playing a game

That’s what happens when you limit yourself to one game mode. Anet wants people to TRY everything.

And, I’m one of those who got their daily done in 10mins in PvP and got 5 reward track boxes to open, tokens, trans charges, and then did a few in PvE for extra loots, and a couple in WvW for more WorldExp.
Total about half an hour on an average day

I find Harathi to be a decent spot for daily event completion. Catch it about 15 minutes before Ulgoth, and just follow the train up.

It’s still lame, but at least it’s a steady event string, unlike Snowden and Kessex.

Aerinndis.2730:

The only suggestion I can offer is to look at the wiki for that area to see what events pop and where as some are multi chain events which can be your best luck in getting through the daily quickly. It is discouraging to hear an event put out, race there only to find it has just finished….

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Snowden_Drifts

[snip]

Thank you very much for your post which helps to alleviate some of the problems of that zone. But IMO it remains a problematic zone nevertheless

Haleydawn.3764:

That’s what happens when you limit yourself to one game mode. Anet wants people to TRY everything.

And, I’m one of those who got their daily done in 10mins in PvP and got 5 reward track boxes to open, tokens, trans charges, and then did a few in PvE for extra loots, and a couple in WvW for more WorldExp.
Total about half an hour

I’ve tried both.

PvP and WvW are as enjoyable as rolling in broken glass for me. I shouldn’t have to do things I hate because they can’t make PVE dailies as generic and quickly completed as the other two options.

Sadly, the only real advice I can give on some the zone-event issue is:

Play Turrent Engi.

At that point, just go to the middle of the event circle, drop turrets, /sleep, occasionally press F to AoE loot. :\

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

Yes. I know that. Everyone knows that. In fact that’s what I do now. I do the PvP dailies on the fake PvP daily maps because ANet ruined the freaking event daily.

Atleast you now get 10ap for doing only 3 tasks. You can mix and match too, so you can pick the easiest 3 to get your daily, hello WvW big spender, Gathering, Vista viewer, Point Capturer, PvP Rank Earner (50 rank points, lol) I’m sure you get the idea.
And atleast they divorced laurels from daily tasks. So if 10ap is worth that much, you will work around what you’re given. I personally love the new dailies, quick and easy, if I don’t have time oh well, I still get my log in rewards.

Have to agree, I actively avoid doing this daily because it’s just not fun. The zone is broken and what events aren’t are over before you can reach them.

Yes you can say ‘Oh do WvW, or do PVP and get your dailies done.’ But not everyone likes those modes. And when players are actively avoiding a PVE daily for valid reasons, maybe it should be changed.

This isn’t about not being able to complete dailies; it’s saying that one daily that comes up is just no fun to try and complete.

What I would like to see. Low level characters.in starting zones. Mid level in level appropriate areas. High levels in Orr. That way the results are the same just level specific.

BolkovonHarnfeldt.1372:

Aerinndis.2730:

The only suggestion I can offer is to look at the wiki for that area to see what events pop and where as some are multi chain events which can be your best luck in getting through the daily quickly. It is discouraging to hear an event put out, race there only to find it has just finished….

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Snowden_Drifts

[snip]

Thank you very much for your post which helps to alleviate some of the problems of that zone. But IMO it remains a problematic zone nevertheless

I agree with you there! I have seen a lot of Snowden Drifts events bug which makes it even more difficult to complete. Quaggan Emissary one comes to mind..

I would rather like to see something like a temporary renowned heart that you had to find on a particular map and complete it for that day. It should be something either instanced or exactly like renowned hearts you do when completing a map except it is gone the next day. Anet could change them up so it would stay fresh and would give folk some new things to do and look forward to whether it was collecting stuff, finding and touching markers for clues to the next marker all over the map, finding and reading books/history or going around the map looking for a certain number NPCs to talk to. Heck, they could something like talk to this npc and if you pick the right conversation track, he/she directs you to the next npc. Throw in a little lore or history and you got something folk might enjoy…

Aerinndis.2730:

BolkovonHarnfeldt.1372:

Aerinndis.2730:

The only suggestion I can offer is to look at the wiki for that area to see what events pop and where as some are multi chain events which can be your best luck in getting through the daily quickly. It is discouraging to hear an event put out, race there only to find it has just finished….

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Snowden_Drifts

[snip]

Thank you very much for your post which helps to alleviate some of the problems of that zone. But IMO it remains a problematic zone nevertheless

I agree with you there! I have seen a lot of Snowden Drifts events bug which makes it even more difficult to complete. Quaggan Emissary one comes to mind..

I would rather like to see something like a temporary renowned heart that you had to find on a particular map and complete it for that day. It should be something either instanced or exactly like renowned hearts you do when completing a map except it is gone the next day. Anet could change them up so it would stay fresh and would give folk some new things to do and look forward to whether it was collecting stuff, finding and touching markers for clues to the next marker all over the map, finding and reading books/history or going around the map looking for a certain number NPCs to talk to. Heck, they could something like talk to this npc and if you pick the right conversation track, he/she directs you to the next npc. Throw in a little lore or history and you got something folk might enjoy…

That sounds like it would be pretty nice. Perhaps they could also make events in the daily area’s Spawn more often too? Still like the unique renowned heart idea better though haha.

I don’t ever have any problems. It takes less than 5 minutes to do the daily for that map. What do you expect when u follow the zerg and rush every waypoint that’s linked? Learn which events spawn where. make an effort.

Chuck.8196:

I don’t ever have any problems. It takes less than 5 minutes to do the daily for that map. What do you expect when u follow the zerg and rush every waypoint that’s linked? Learn which events spawn where. make an effort.

In other words, treat it like a job. Memorize what events spawn where and when. Don’t be exploring around, finding events as you explore (since that will only get you to events as they are ending). You’re not doing this for fun! Make an effort!

Bleh.

Before they ruined the event dailies I found the event dailies by exploring around. For fun you know. Crazy, wasn’t ’it.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Chuck.8196:

I don’t ever have any problems. It takes less than 5 minutes to do the daily for that map. What do you expect when u follow the zerg and rush every waypoint that’s linked? Learn which events spawn where. make an effort.

In other words, treat it like a job. Memorize what events spawn where and when. Don’t be exploring around, finding events as you explore (since that will only get you to events as they are ending). You’re not doing this for fun! Make an effort!

Bleh.

Before they ruined the event dailies I found the event dailies by exploring around. For fun you know. Crazy, wasn’kitten

Actually in the case of Snowden it’s “learn which event has a tendency to be permanently broken”.

Rauderi.8706:

It’s not just Snowden. Any of the starter zones are terrible for it.

They need to remove specific zone event completion from the rotation and put in area zone completion. Use Maguuma Jungle/Wastes, Kryta, etc. instead.

This.

Low-level events in specific zones is the worst implementation of a daily task I have ever seen in an MMO. It promotes spawn camping with players throwing attacks out at random in hopes that they’ll get enough tags to get event credit. Mobs die literally as soon as they appear or become vulnerable. This is the most idiotic gameplay I’ve ever seen a developer promote. Way to push how engaging and fun your game is, ANet.

For some weird reason i don’t mind the broken events (aside from them being broken) because here is the thing: You don’t need to do those particular events, you need 4 of any.

If you know where event chains are, you are golden. If you don’t know for sure, the content guide can actually help out. If you are still annoyed by snowden, then don’t do the daily events there…

IndigoSundown.5419:

Rauderi.8706:

It’s not just Snowden. Any of the starter zones are terrible for it.

They need to remove specific zone event completion from the rotation and put in area zone completion. Use Maguuma Jungle/Wastes, Kryta, etc. instead.

This.

Low-level events in specific zones is the worst implementation of a daily task I have ever seen in an MMO. It promotes spawn camping with players throwing attacks out at random in hopes that they’ll get enough tags to get event credit. Mobs die literally as soon as they appear or become vulnerable. This is the most idiotic gameplay I’ve ever seen a developer promote. Way to push how engaging and fun your game is, ANet.

That’s 99% the fault of the idiots who feel pro because they know where mobs will spawn and put down their aoe there constantly a minute before any mob even spawned just to tag everything. Same stuff happens in harathi hinterlands all the time. Actually the same thing happens everywhere in open world where there is enough eles, engis and other aoe heavy classes that can just sit on their keyboard and put down enough pain that mobs die in seconds.

A bit off-topic: When people ask for instanced content that makes you use your brain instead of rolling your face on the keyboard, it’s bad…

serenke.4806:

For some weird reason i don’t mind the broken events (aside from them being broken) because here is the thing: You don’t need to do those particular events, you need 4 of any.

If you know where event chains are, you are golden. If you don’t know for sure, the content guide can actually help out. If you are still annoyed by snowden, then don’t do the daily events there…

The content guide is exactly the reason why the broken events are annoying since it often ends up pointing to one.

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

I’m someone who is increasingly enjoying a round or two of PvP, and often relies on it as a crutch for getting my dailies done, but this hasn’t always been the case for me. So, I have to play devil’s advocate on this one.

OP was pointing out a flaw in a specific daily requirement, even pointing out areas where events in the game were bugged and not possible to complete. These events should be FIXED, not ignored. And if there’s an issue where reaching events is nearly impossible due to how the system forces players to ravenously swoop in and impatiently blast through them as fast as possible, then ought that not be addressed properly? The answer isn’t “play this other game mode you don’t enjoy.” Do you really want ArenaNet to treat their game this way?

You aren’t going to get more players into PvP by making PvE worse. You’re just going to lose players.

I don’t like the map daylies either. It doesn’t even matter whether it’s snowden drift or orr, I kill every mob with 3 hits anyway. So I usually don’t participate in these events or do them alone when the mushroom popped up.

But, I was doing map completion today and as a matter of fact chose snowden, I forgot about the daylie. And people were cool, they were complaining that it took them so long but not about this or that player killing more mobs than they were allowed to – and exactly that was what annoyed me the most with these daylies.
I don’t think it would change if the maps were higher level, I heard someone complain about 80’s in sparkfly fen – for 20 min, that guy was really mad.

serenke.4806:

IndigoSundown.5419:

Rauderi.8706:

It’s not just Snowden. Any of the starter zones are terrible for it.

They need to remove specific zone event completion from the rotation and put in area zone completion. Use Maguuma Jungle/Wastes, Kryta, etc. instead.

This.

Low-level events in specific zones is the worst implementation of a daily task I have ever seen in an MMO. It promotes spawn camping with players throwing attacks out at random in hopes that they’ll get enough tags to get event credit. Mobs die literally as soon as they appear or become vulnerable. This is the most idiotic gameplay I’ve ever seen a developer promote. Way to push how engaging and fun your game is, ANet.

That’s 99% the fault of the idiots who feel pro because they know where mobs will spawn and put down their aoe there constantly a minute before any mob even spawned just to tag everything. Same stuff happens in harathi hinterlands all the time. Actually the same thing happens everywhere in open world where there is enough eles, engis and other aoe heavy classes that can just sit on their keyboard and put down enough pain that mobs die in seconds.

Sure, players are part of the problem, but ANet enables that behavior. The daily events task represents two failures on the part of ANet. (1) They failed to predict that players would gang up on their events, using those tactics — which were already seen in places like Orr. Except of course that down-leveled players melt low-level mobs even faster than they do L82 Risen. Or worse, they predicted it but implemented that daily anyway; and (2) they’ve failed to do anything about it, despite that it makes a mockery of their game.

Edit: There’s a lot of things I dislike about how ANet has changed the game since launch. Most of those, I can see why they might have done them, and respect them for making hard choices. This one, though, I look and and wonder how any self-respecting game developer could promote such ridiculous gameplay.

I’m much more relaxed about such things since i’ve decided to just avoid things that tick me off (Frostgorge Sound champ train, EotM karma train, Claw of Jormag because of the champ farmers in the backline). If people want to do that to themselves and they enjoy it, i let them.

serenke.4806:

Claw of Jormag because of the champ farmers in the backline

someone pointed it out on the forums a while back and it’s true- if no one stays with the champs in the back, they will go to the front and cause a lot of trouble (killing golems, rushing to the “main zerg”) – it really is better if someone takes care of them in the back.

As do I. In fact, I’m not doing much of anything in GW2. I may return when the core specs come online. I really have to wonder what it would take to enjoy those events, unless enjoyment consists of, “I got my daily chores done and didn’t have to PvP.”

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Chuck.8196:

I don’t ever have any problems. It takes less than 5 minutes to do the daily for that map. What do you expect when u follow the zerg and rush every waypoint that’s linked? Learn which events spawn where. make an effort.

In other words, treat it like a job. Memorize what events spawn where and when. Don’t be exploring around, finding events as you explore (since that will only get you to events as they are ending). You’re not doing this for fun! Make an effort!

Bleh.

Before they ruined the event dailies I found the event dailies by exploring around. For fun you know. Crazy, wasn’t ’it.

Not like a job. Like a game. Where you have to learn things to do them. Not be handed to you on a silver platter. Make an effort.

Chuck.8196:

Make an effort.

That’s a bit lacking in game theory, to be honest. “Make an effort” does nothing to address years of research on motivation, gamification, or even public relations and human factors. Quite frankly, the ‘argument’ is just lazy and equates to mouthing off for no reason.

Specific zone event completion is bad design. It funnels players into content that wasn’t designed for such large groups, so it leads players to exploit the system, get frustrated, or ignore it. And to be honest, the reward for that level of frustration and exploitation isn’t even worth it. Timed bosses give rare gear, harvesting gives materials worth several silver.
Events..? Writ of XP and a drop of karma. Woo. There is nothing good about the current zone event design.

Imo I don’t have much problems to find the events, usually you just ask where the events are and there are some meta events, too.

As OP already mentioned the following event is broken every single time:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Escort_the_supply_dolyak_to_Snowdrift_Haven

This is just ridiculous. This even after years the same mess. What the hell? Can’t they just fix that?

Rauderi.8706:

Chuck.8196:

Make an effort.

That’s a bit lacking in game theory, to be honest. “Make an effort” does nothing to address years of research on motivation, gamification, or even public relations and human factors. Quite frankly, the ‘argument’ is just lazy and equates to mouthing off for no reason.

Specific zone event completion is bad design. It funnels players into content that wasn’t designed for such large groups, so it leads players to exploit the system, get frustrated, or ignore it. And to be honest, the reward for that level of frustration and exploitation isn’t even worth it. Timed bosses give rare gear, harvesting gives materials worth several silver.
Events..? Writ of XP and a drop of karma. Woo. There is nothing good about the current zone event design.

Except he is completely correct. The design does have a few flaws but its really not as difficult as everyone makes it seems. They offer plenty of other dailies to complete if you dont like the system. The problem exists within the playerbase. Too many people feel they are privileged ad because it’s a game they think they shouldn’t have to put in anyeffort to receive the rewards. They might as well start unlocking everyskin just becauseyou see someone with it. There should one of every node within view of each other so we dont have to explore the map to find any. Make an effort is a completely reasonable response.

imo map specific dailies should be region specific dailies instead

you know

LIKE WE HAD BEFORE

reinventing the wheel ever 12-15 months is hurting this game a lot

Chuck.8196:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Chuck.8196:

I don’t ever have any problems. It takes less than 5 minutes to do the daily for that map. What do you expect when u follow the zerg and rush every waypoint that’s linked? Learn which events spawn where. make an effort.

In other words, treat it like a job. Memorize what events spawn where and when. Don’t be exploring around, finding events as you explore (since that will only get you to events as they are ending). You’re not doing this for fun! Make an effort!

Bleh.

Before they ruined the event dailies I found the event dailies by exploring around. For fun you know. Crazy, wasn’t ’it.

Not like a job. Like a game. Where you have to learn things to do them. Not be handed to you on a silver platter. Make an effort.

Oh, please. It’s hardly difficult to figure out where events spawn and hang around those spots till they do. Don’t make that out to be some kind of big deal. It’s not whether or not the events can be found. They can. It’s that the low level events can’t support the number of people doing them and it’s made doing them frustrating and unfun. I’m not going to reward their metrics. Until they make them region wide, not map specific, I will boycot the event daily and do something else.

I always feel badly for the level 5-15s in these zones in general. With all the 80s around, they have no hope of getting any loot or even enough hits on something to get completion for the events on daily days.

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

There are those of us who do NOT want to do PvP.-

joe.7684:

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

There are those of us who do NOT want to do PvP.-

then it is only those people’s choice to limit their options

there is 12 dailies total and you need to do only 3 of them, if you narrow your options only to one tab (no matter which) you have no right to complain because you CHOSE not to participate or try other things

Having many alternatives to choose doesn’t make those options that are failed less failed.

I like Snowden because I don’t have to look for events. My husband and I have a two event chain we go to and it pops every 10 minutes and takes less than 2 min to complete both.

The low-level areas became a problem with the NPE. With the locking of traits they felt the need to weaken the enemies. Now the down-leveled players knock them over with a puff of air. Hopefully, with the new trait system, they’ll be able to restore the enemies to their former glory and they’ll last for a few fractions of a second longer. Either that or properly nerf the down-levels so that they don’t make the lower level characters irrelevant.

tramwajarz.2369:

joe.7684:

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

There are those of us who do NOT want to do PvP.-

then it is only those people’s choice to limit their options

there is 12 dailies total and you need to do only 3 of them, if you narrow your options only to one tab (no matter which) you have no right to complain because you CHOSE not to participate or try other things

You are incorrect. The right to complain is gated by ownership of an account, not by some arbitrary requirement that you come up with.

For those who prefer PvP or WvW, the daily 10 AP became a process in which they do not have to leave their preferred game mode to complete. This is very much a positive change. For those who prefer PvE, the opposite is sometimes true. And why? Because ANet cannot make those modes appeal to such players any other way? Why should a system favor the exclusionary preferences of two demographics while a third demographic gets told not to be exclusionary? Is that because you prefer PvP or WvW?

However, this thread is about 1/4th of the PvE dailies, the events. Are you really defending this task? Is this really good, engaging game-play? Or did ANet turn the PvE dailies from an organic reward to the kind of dull, boring task that dailies are in that other game while turning low level events into something that bears no resemblance to anything fun beyond just finishing the task.

IndigoSundown.5419:

tramwajarz.2369:

joe.7684:

Oxidia.8103:

Are you aware you can complete your daily within 15 min or less in pvp?

There are those of us who do NOT want to do PvP.-

then it is only those people’s choice to limit their options

there is 12 dailies total and you need to do only 3 of them, if you narrow your options only to one tab (no matter which) you have no right to complain because you CHOSE not to participate or try other things

You are incorrect. The right to complain is gated by ownership of an account, not by some arbitrary requirement that you come up with.

For those who prefer PvP or WvW, the daily 10 AP became a process in which they do not have to leave their preferred game mode to complete. This is very much a positive change. For those who prefer PvE, the opposite is sometimes true. And why? Because ANet cannot make those modes appeal to such players any other way? Why should a system favor the exclusionary preferences of two demographics while a third demographic gets told not to be exclusionary? Is that because you prefer PvP or WvW?

However, this thread is about 1/4th of the PvE dailies, the events. Are you really defending this task? Is this really good, engaging game-play? Or did ANet turn the PvE dailies from an organic reward to the kind of dull, boring task that dailies are in that other game while turning low level events into something that bears no resemblance to anything fun beyond just finishing the task.

The level of acceptance of current daillies is individually dependend so you can’t mathematically prove that dailies 1-3 are “natural way of gameplay” while others are not because everyone plays different.

And my point stands. Just because some ppl refuse to try/complete other dailies doesn’t mean those options are not there. This is self limiting choice those ppl did and it’s their fault. WvW, PvP, PvE, dungeons/fractals – those are all parts of the same game and those players can explore them equally. They chose not to. Why should anyone care?

However I agree that map specific dailies should be region specific.

How odd, I don’t find it hard to do the daily zone event completions on any map with my main, but perhaps that’s because I always turn my Content Guide on when doing this particular daily(Disable Personal Story), and then I just go to what ever event happens to be nearby. If it finishes before I reach it, just go to the next one, as well as hop around to those select areas that I know have repeatable events. It’s not that annoying, I just use the time running around to gather materials along the way.