Guild Wars 2

I have heard of this somewhere, I think on a WoodenPotatoes video (who I think also said this was generally discussed before), but the idea of having ascended bag crafting which grants bags whose contents are shared across your account.

I wanted to elaborate a bit on that idea.

The idea, details, and purpose:
The main purpose of this inventory space would be to provide an easier way to have access to certain items that you want to have access to on all/many alts. For example, Infinite-use services, Ascended/Legendary equipment, Infinite-use tools, map keys, etc.

This would greatly help people who have some of these items that would otherwise need to go to a bank to share the items. (This would slightly hurt the value of Infinite-use bank items, but at the same time, it may make them even more desirable because they can be put in this shared inventory to share it with your whole account, making your bank far more accessible and powerful and the item more desirable.)

How this shared inventory would work in regards to consumables/materials/junk would be to simply hold it, and when used/sold/stored, the items would disappear as usual. But in regards to equipment, things would work differently. If equipment in this shared inventory was only Account-bound, and no other binding, then it would allow the item(s) to be worn on any number of players on your account simultaneously. So for example, if you have Twilight and put it in this shared inventory, then it could be used by anyone on your account. This would work by making a ghost-copy of the item for any player who has it equipped on their player. Any changes to the original copy of the item (such as changing runes/sigils) would update the ghost-copies that are equipped, and likewise, if you took the equipment out of the shared inventory and didn’t return it before logging onto someone who was using it from that shared inventory, the ghost-copy will disappear (there is a check on each log-in). Unequipping the ghost-copy simply makes it vanish. Note that you can only equip each item in the shared inventory a max of 1 times; for example, if you have Incinerator in the shared inventory, you can only equip 1 copy of it unless you have 2 in the shared inventory. [I know that new tech would probably be needed for something like this, but I would LOVE it.] Also, the same thing goes for Unlimited-harvest tools (I know that these in particular are designed to be bought multiple times, at least I think, but I personally just end up only using my main, like ever, rather than buying more; but hey, this shared inventory is limited, so you may want to buy multiple of any items you can to save space for more important stuff. Would be interesting in general to see an official reaction to something like this, to know how much they do want people to have multiples of these super valuable/convenient items, things from Gem store or otherwise).

Toggle-able options:

• There would be an option for whether to see the shared inventory on top or below your character’s inventory.
• There would be an option for whether items would be able to auto-fill into the shared inventory when your character’s inventory overfills, only if the item is already in the shared inventory and would contribute to capping an stack of the item, or not at all.

Bag slots:
In addition to the 7 bag slots you can have now, per character, you can unlock up to 5 shared bag slots. These each can only be outfitted with certain types of bags, which are either Ascended or Legendary in quality. These shared bag slots would cost ~600-800 Gems. (Maybe give 1 for free, if you want… but it is convenience, and while grindy, can alleviate a lot of items/mechanics.)

Crafting/acquiring the bags:
Ascended bags grant 5 slots per. Legendary grant 10 slots per. (Maybe change this to 5/10 for equipment or crafting bags (which only accept those items), and 2/4 for whatever bags…)
You may have as many of the same Ascended bags as you want, but Legendary ones are Unique, you can only have 1 of each version. There will be more than enough options to obtain the 5 max.

Ascended are made by 500 [armorsmith, leatherworker, or tailor] with

• 5x Ascended [cloth, wood, metal, and leather],
• 1x Glob of Dark Energy (gasp!), (or 10x Glob of Dark Matter if needed)
• 10x [Bloodstone Brick, Dragonite Ingot, Empyreal Star, and maybe Crystalline Ingot (but that makes it HoT exclusive)], and
• 1x Ascended Rune of Holding (buy for 100g or earn from some achievements)

Legendary are made in the Mystic Forge with

• 1x Ascended Bag
• 1x Gift of Mastery [or Magumma Mastery, or any future expansion regions; 1 for PvP exclusively; 1 for WvW exclusively; 1 for each Story 100% completed achievement (LW2, HoT Story, LW3+)]
• 1x Mystic Tribute
• (1x Glob of Dark Energy, if not used in Ascended Bag recipe) or 1x Bottle of Elonian Wine

You can change the type of an Ascended bag from equipment (5 slots) to crafting materials (5 slots) to anything (5, or maybe 2 slots) by using these Mystic Forge recipes:

• 1x Anthology of Heroes
• 1x 20-Slot Bag (any discipline’s, but of the desired type (either craftsman’s, equipment, or normal)
• 1x Ascended Bag
• 1x Bottle of Elonian Wine

You can change the type of a Legendary bag by unequipping it (therefore taking the contents out) and right-clicking it to select the type you want, as any legendary works. Then you can re-equip it.

This is pretty much the idea I wanted, except not quite to this extent.

I wanted a 5 (ish) slot account-wide bag in which you could put infinite use harvest and salvage tools, which would be the only way I would see the worth to these, as I have multiple alts that I play equally.
I want the tools and salvage kits, but I’m not about to buy multiple copies of each:/

On the other hand, I don’t see it happening with Anet’s business model lol.

Ven Zehn.6573:

This is pretty much the idea I wanted, except not quite to this extent.

I wanted a 5 (ish) slot account-wide bag in which you could put infinite use harvest and salvage tools, which would be the only way I would see the worth to these, as I have multiple alts that I play equally.
I want the tools and salvage kits, but I’m not about to buy multiple copies of each:/

On the other hand, I don’t see it happening with Anet’s business model lol.

Yeah.

In regards to those items specifically, I would actually prefer they be consumable and give you a button on your inventory (on top or bottom) that you press and it does it’s function, or equips a copy of the tool, etc. but yeah, then they get no future sales. It’s just the issue that very few people will spend tons for multiple copies, a reasonable amount will buy maybe 1 of each, and then a lot of people wont buy any of them because they would need multiples. Happens a lot in many games. Would be interesting to see them test the sales profit on something like this, but only one thing (maybe a new thing), at least to start, to see if they would actually manage to make more money or less off of it. (Also a lot to consider, because for example, if I had this unlock on the whole account, I’d be more willing to have more characters, and therefore buy more character slots.)

Was trying to help alleviate some of the lost sales by making the bag slots sold only from Gems.

I suppose I’ll throw in that I’d be happy if this was added in, but just it took away the ability for storing infinite-use items, but still let you share keys, equipment, crafting materials, consumables, etc.

Would resolve any major issues that ANet might have in terms of money-making.

great idea +++++++++++++++++++++

They already have the permanent bank license.

If anet increase the drop rate, it’ll actually be affordable.

laokoko.7403:

They already have the permanent bank license.

If anet increase the drop rate, it’ll actually be affordable.

That is good, and in fact very good in general (it’s an insane amount of inventory addon, basically), but this would be even a step up past that because you wouldn’t need to shift items in and out, and unequip things all the time just because you’re alting. And the item itself is only a 1-way access, it doesn’t enable all characters to use this functionality.

If they decided to make the infinite-use items stack with this shared inventory, then it makes those infinite-use items even more desirable.

I have 9 permanent bank license across 9 characters. and unlocked all my bank tab.

As good as those inventory bag is, having a full bank worth of item is enormous.

Judging by the way Anet handle the permanent license. If Anet were to add a shared bag, it probably be from black lion chest, and the drop rate is so low, it probably sell for 1000 gold each on the TP.

Yeah, I’ve brought the mere idea of a 5-slot accountwide bag up once too.
I don’t think there’s any need for up to 5 5-10 slot bags. We do have an account bank. If you want to carry your bank around, you should rather get the unlimited bank access, which would lose its sense with that.

But having 5 accountwide slots for for example: unlimited bank access, royal terrace pass, mystic pocket forge, copper powered salvage tool and a tonic or toy of your choice (or the unlimited hairstyle thingy <3) wouldn’t really harm plus it’d make life a lot easier and even more fun. (Though you can exchange the named items for something else you’d rather like, but as for my collection it’d be what I’d like to use accountwide as it says on the description. But having to store it in the bank whenever I log out isn’t really convenient.)

Has been suggested several time, will either make it into the game or not. Personally I don’t believe it will but I have been wrong about what will make it into the game before and will be again.

kuscheldrow.6415:

Yeah, I’ve brought the mere idea of a 5-slot accountwide bag up once too.
I don’t think there’s any need for up to 5 5-10 slot bags. We do have an account bank. If you want to carry your bank around, you should rather get the unlimited bank access, which would lose its sense with that.

But having 5 accountwide slots for for example: unlimited bank access, royal terrace pass, mystic pocket forge, copper powered salvage tool and a tonic or toy of your choice (or the unlimited hairstyle thingy <3) wouldn’t really harm plus it’d make life a lot easier and even more fun. (Though you can exchange the named items for something else you’d rather like, but as for my collection it’d be what I’d like to use accountwide as it says on the description. But having to store it in the bank whenever I log out isn’t really convenient.)

That’s why I suggested the bags be 2-4 slots for random items and 5-10 (each) for crafting/armor. I would think that ascended would be relatively common for people to have, even though it’s a good bit of grind. So assume you have access to using all 5 bag slots. If you have 2 legendary weapons, and 3 sets of legendary armor (when it comes out), you could fit, potentially, everything any character could need/would use in 20 slots (4 ascended equipment bags or 2 legendary equipment bags), and you’d have 1-3 spare bag slots open for crafting materials or random consumables (a maximum of 12 regular items, which really isn’t that much, depending on what you want to share).

At max, you’d have access to 20-50 shared slots, which I think is pretty reasonable, considering increasing from 10-25 would be very expensive and few would have it. And because you have to work for the 10 in the first place, it’s not like it just comes free, so a lot of people won’t have that many.

One thing they could do, if they did this (and made the infinite-use items be storable and work in the shared inventory), would be to allow people to trade in the Permanent Bank Access Express, which would be the biggest issue, in for a Legendary Bag, or a shared bag slot unlock, just to help mitigate frustrations for people who have bought a or multiple Permanent Bank Access Express, and then this comes along and it turns out that they would prefer this. Some ideas for trade-ins could be:

• Permanent Bank Access Express = Shared Bag Slot Unlock
• Permanent Bank Access Express = Legendary Bag (unique trade, 1 per account)
• Permanent Bank Access Express = 10 Black Lion Chest Keys
• Permanent Bank Access Express = Personal Merchant Express (maybe… value seems to make this a reasonable deal)
• Permanent Bank Access Express = Personal Trader Express (maybe… value seems to make this a reasonable deal)
  Yeah, not all of these would be a great deal, or really none (except the bag), but I think overall, the change wouldn’t take anything away you’ve worked towards, just add onto it if you wanted to worry about it.