Guild Wars 2

Everything is time gated in this game, buying it with Karma and Dungeon Tokens is STILL time gated. You still need to get the Karma and Dungeon Tokens in the first place.

Some people will not be happy unless everything is given to them for free… sigh.

Arnath.2319:

Why dont they just give all level one players a full set of ascended gear the moment they log in? Why dont they just give everyone a free legendary? Why dont they just give out thousands of gold and gems for free and make everything super easy?

Everything is time gated in this game, buying it with Karma and Dungeon Tokens is STILL time gated! You still need to get the Karma and Dungeon Tokens in the first place!

Some people will not be happy unless everything is given to them for free… sigh.

And I’m not asking for it to be free. I’m asking for it to be as accessible as the exotic gear. It’s a gear tier in a casual game after all.

Posted before without any justification, but here we go again. I read a post about 2 months ago that Anet said they would get valkyrie ascended trinkets in with the next update of ascended items. The last update of ascended items was the WvW ascended gear that brought more of the same old kitten that you can find other places just another way to buy the ascended gear. Still holding onto my laurels and commendations waiting for ALL stats to be released with the ascended trinkets. Reason for this rant was i read the ascended armor is getting closer and closer.

Reason for Gw1 was so fun was how many different builds you could run and the fact that you had access to THE SAME STATS across the board. So now i am taking a hit to my stats and cluttering my storage with things saving so i can use them on correct stats, just seems silly that valkyrie ascended trinkets are not in the game. Feels like Anet lost its touch in letting us play how we want and pushing us to use the same kitten as everyone else..

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats (Trinkets):
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats:
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

You are forgetting the 916 base stats every stat category gets.

Mirta.5029:

Arnath.2319:

Why dont they just give all level one players a full set of ascended gear the moment they log in? Why dont they just give everyone a free legendary? Why dont they just give out thousands of gold and gems for free and make everything super easy?

Everything is time gated in this game, buying it with Karma and Dungeon Tokens is STILL time gated! You still need to get the Karma and Dungeon Tokens in the first place!

Some people will not be happy unless everything is given to them for free… sigh.

And I’m not asking for it to be free. I’m asking for it to be as accessible as the exotic gear. It’s a gear tier in a casual game after all.

I’m not even asking for that. I’m asking for it to NOT EXIST.

Think outside the dang box. Gear grind is unimaginative and senseless. It makes about as much sense as finding ways at your job to work harder and get paid less. It’s about as stimulating and intellectually rewarding as curling up in a corner and drooling.

There are so many BETTER ways. I point to Guild Wars as a fantastic example. Jeez GW2 is such a disappointment after that. Brainless grind. Yay. Don’t even have interesting ways to recombine character, hero, and team builds to take the edge off.

I feel like I’ve gone from being an architect in Guild Wars, to a toddler playing with blocks in GW2.

We don’t know any details on how ascended armor/weapons will be. I wouldn’t jump to conclusions when only the thought of them was announced.

If you have done 48 fotm, you know how hard things hit already. Now do you think they would add more levels past 50 and continue scaling them? Do we have any ability to take on level 84-85 vets in large numbers? Not really, I don’t think they’ve introduced any gear treadmill. Look at the stats of asc and exotic trinkets, they arn’t drastic plus they are also limiting in stat cominbations because it comes with a set, you can’t add a jewel of different stats to it.

Colin also said in the interview on twitch that they are approaching this carefully to avoid excluding people out based on their gear. Will asc armor/weapons be stronger? Yeah, but a kitten in shiny armor is just a kitten. A lion is what people are after.

You people are tiresome…

It is happening. It is going to happen as they say. Either accept it or find a new game.

/thread.

Already? For me it was “About time”

ZudetGambeous.9573:

You people are tiresome…

It is happening. It is going to happen as they say. Either accept it or find a new game.

/thread.

I’m sure the posters in this thread are aware that it WILL happen, but Anet can still change their rules on how to obtain these ascended pieces and their stat difference… If you don’t speak up and tell someone that they are doing something wrong or make Anet aware that the mass population of their customers have a problem with what they are adding, they will never do anything about it.

Dan.2940:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

You people are tiresome…

It is happening. It is going to happen as they say. Either accept it or find a new game.

/thread.

I’m sure the posters in this thread are aware that it WILL happen, but Anet can still change their rules on how to obtain these ascended pieces and their stat difference… If you don’t speak up and tell someone that they are doing something wrong or make Anet aware that the mass population of their customers have a problem with what they are adding, they will never do anything about it.

They have listened, they have changed the rules, they have added multiple ways of obtaining Ascended items and i bet if they did not listen in the first place they would not be adding the ability to craft Ascended gear too.

The stat differences are already here, that is set in stone and can not be changed, ArenaNet are rushing out the last bits of Ascended gear and making it SUPER easy to obtain, and as there blog post says will focus on traits and skills from now on.

Nebulizer.3276:

There was vertical progression in GW1 also whether you liked to admit it or not.

There was jumping, too.

LilMcGinley.3890:

You are forgetting the 916 base stats every stat category gets.

No, I’m showing the stat increase in ascended trinkets compared to elite trinkets confined to a comparison in stats between the two.

Arnath.2319:

They have listened, they have changed the rules, they have added multiple ways of obtaining Ascended items and i bet if they did not listen in the first place they would not be adding the ability to craft Ascended gear too.

The stat differences are already here, that is set in stone and can not be changed, ArenaNet are rushing out the last bits of Ascended gear and making it SUPER easy to obtain, and as there blog post says will focus on traits and skills from now on.

the new way of obtaining it will be the only way of obtaining armor and weapons. And it’s not super easy.

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats (Trinkets):
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

Is that figure for the exotics counting the slotted gem? It’s important to consider because Ascended items merge the gem into the stats. So to compare an Ascended berserker’s trinket to an exotic one it’s the [exotic trinket + matching gem] vs. Ascended Trinket.

Already?
They stated during the post in January that we would get more (all?) ascended pieces this year, and since we haven’t gotten them yet, it would be quite logical that we would get the during the next six months, right?

Asbrandr.6324:

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats (Trinkets):
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

Is that figure for the exotics counting the slotted gem? It’s important to consider because Ascended items merge the gem into the stats. So to compare an Ascended berserker’s trinket to an exotic one it’s the [exotic trinket + matching gem] vs. Ascended Trinket.

Can’t be.. here are the stats
Exotic Asc
Power/prec power/pres
508 346 570 376

Difference of: 10.8% 7.9%

I don’t know the crit changes tho.

Exotic crit is 36%.. so if 36 vs 39 is a 7.7% increase. Not 22%

Chuo.4238:

Mirta.5029:

Arnath.2319:

Why dont they just give all level one players a full set of ascended gear the moment they log in? Why dont they just give everyone a free legendary? Why dont they just give out thousands of gold and gems for free and make everything super easy?

Everything is time gated in this game, buying it with Karma and Dungeon Tokens is STILL time gated! You still need to get the Karma and Dungeon Tokens in the first place!

Some people will not be happy unless everything is given to them for free… sigh.

And I’m not asking for it to be free. I’m asking for it to be as accessible as the exotic gear. It’s a gear tier in a casual game after all.

I’m not even asking for that. I’m asking for it to NOT EXIST.

Think outside the dang box. Gear grind is unimaginative and senseless. It makes about as much sense as finding ways at your job to work harder and get paid less. It’s about as stimulating and intellectually rewarding as curling up in a corner and drooling.

There are so many BETTER ways. I point to Guild Wars as a fantastic example. Jeez GW2 is such a disappointment after that. Brainless grind. Yay. Don’t even have interesting ways to recombine character, hero, and team builds to take the edge off.

I feel like I’ve gone from being an architect in Guild Wars, to a toddler playing with blocks in GW2.

Please elaborate on these aforementioned better ways, otherwise you aren’t adding anything to the conversation.

Not sure if anyone touched on it yet….just kinda skimmed though everything so sorry for repeating anything…

But if looks like the precursor scavenger hunt will not be so scavengery since you will have to be 500 in crafting to make it….I personally don’t plan on doing the legendary grind again but this might dash some of the dreams of some who hoped on getting one…

Already? Everyone has been asking for Ascended armor since Ascended gear was introduced. Here’s to hoping they add ALL the gear stat sets with this Ascended armor update, if not it’ll just be a kittenstorm on the forums.

Amun Ra.6435:

Not sure if anyone touched on it yet….just kinda skimmed though everything so sorry for repeating anything…

But if looks like the precursor scavenger hunt will not be so scavengery since you will have to be 500 in crafting to make it….I personally don’t plan on doing the legendary grind again but this might dash some of the dreams of some who hoped on getting one…

If recent trends are any indication it will no doubt be a long, drawn out, time gated process to get the materials to craft one. But just because the precursor is crafted doesn’t mean some of the components won’t be acquired through some sort of quest or scavenger hunt system.

Already?

“Coming in 2013”. Arenanet Speak for 2020. :p

Sarie.1630:

Already?

“Coming in 2013”. Arenanet Speak for 2020. :p

Isn’t this the truth. Lol.

I hope we get the pvp version of Valkyrie in pve as well. Power, Critical Damage, Toughness, Healing Power.

Padapwn.5924:

Reason for Gw1 was so fun was how many different builds you could run and the fact that you had access to THE SAME STATS across the board.

But this is a flat out lie. Why do GW1 “fans” keep on lying about their game? There were armors with lots of + energy, with lots of + health, lots of armor vs xx. You even had skills that got stronger by maxing out PvE titles.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Asbrandr.6324:

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats (Trinkets):
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

Is that figure for the exotics counting the slotted gem? It’s important to consider because Ascended items merge the gem into the stats. So to compare an Ascended berserker’s trinket to an exotic one it’s the [exotic trinket + matching gem] vs. Ascended Trinket.

Can’t be.. here are the stats
Exotic Asc
Power/prec power/pres
508 346 570 376

Difference of: 10.8% 7.9%

I don’t know the crit changes tho.

Exotic crit is 36%.. so if 36 vs 39 is a 7.7% increase. Not 22%

Your calculation is a percentage difference, I’m stating percentage changes (in this case increases); the increase of 36 to 39 is 8.33% not 7.7%. My value for the exotic crit was 32, which was an error since I didn’t include the backpiece on any of my calculations; with the correct values the increase is 20.46%. I found a site that explains it in simple terms: go to mathisfun.com to understand some basic terms.

Here’s an easier to understand breakdown using actual item names and the simple calculations:

Prototype Fractal Capacitor: 56/35/5
Magister’s Field Journal: 91/60/7
Althea’s Ashes: 91/60/7
Crystaline Band: 103/68/8
Ring of Red Death: 103/68/8
Mark of the Tethyous Houses: 126/85/9
Total: 570/376/44

Guild Assassin Backpack+Ruby Orb: 42/30/3
Ruby Orichalcum Earring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 81/55/6
Ruby Orichalcum Earring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 81/55/6
Ruby Orichalcum Ring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 92/63/6
Ruby Orichalcum Ring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 92/63/6
Ruby Orichalcum Amulet of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 115/79/8
Total: 503/345/35

Stat INCREASE from Exotic to Ascended
Power: ((570-503)/503)x100) = 13.32%
Precision: ((376-345)/345)x100) = 8.99%
Critical Damage: ((44-35)/44)x100) = 20.46

AHHH this is why I’m in IT and not in math.. thanks for pointing that out!!

Too bad I closed my excel doc I had open. I’d like to relook at the numbers I had to compare to yours.

Thank you for the informative post.

So what is the percent change when you incorporate the base stats to the Asc items?

I don’t like more ways than FoTM to get Ascended gear waah, waah, waah!!!

Kain Francois.4328:

I don’t like more ways than FoTM to get Ascended gear waah, waah, waah!!!

actually I’m asking for more ways to get ascended. But thank you for being so immature.

Ya, the amazing power of 2nd grade math.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

You are spreading miss information like crazy ascended gear is not a 3/5% diference when u add up all it goes way beyond 15% diference (specialy with %crit dmg) now start adding up armor and weapons and you get a much bigger diference

Dumah.9612:

Ya, the amazing power of 2nd grade math.

Considering 2nd grade was 20 years ago.. which was 1993..

Funny how I thank you and yet to come back with an insult.. lol

Mirta.5029:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/
So essentially with 8 alts I’m thrown out of high level content like fractals? What was wrong with exotic gear? Now in order to get the new tier we will have to spend an insane amount of money on T6 materials to level up crafting, not to mention all of our old gear suddenly now becomes moot? When I signed up for GW2 I did not sign up for harsh step of gear progression. Either make this gear tier acquirable by various means (karma, loot, fractals, dungeons, crafting) even with increased prices (let’s say it’s 100K karma per piece instead of 42K and 500 tickets per piece, instead of 180 in dungeons) unless you make it easy to get it should not be in the game.

Did you notice the part where they said it was to make crafting worthwhile again? You’ll be able to buy it off the market like exotics. Only the pieces of gear won’t be a dime a dozen.

Unless you are extremely new to the game THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE GAME NEEDS as crafting is completely worthless right now for anything other than achievement points.

Bullk.5836:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

You are spreading miss information like crazy ascended gear is not a 3/5% diference when u add up all it goes way beyond 15% diference (specialy with %crit dmg) now start adding up armor and weapons and you get a much bigger diference

I did.. on the last page.. see sig. I closed my excel doc but I’ll be more than happy to toss it together again and show ya.

Berserker gear is an outlier because of crit. I’ll use PVT for my next calcs, maybe even some Rabid

LilMcGinley.3890:

Dumah.9612:

Ya, the amazing power of 2nd grade math.

Considering 2nd grade was 20 years ago.. which was 1993..

Funny how I thank you and yet to come back with an insult.. lol

What? I was saying math, across all levels, is powerful in helping people understand the correct use of numbers. Injecting an unfounded bias (this is an abstract concept that is difficult to explain) into other people’s writing can result in getting offended over something that is neutral.

This is realy ’ amazing ’ …
- doing fractals few days on lvl 10 is problem for ppl
- crafting is problem for ppl

How the hell you want to get highest rank of gear to be satisfied ? Getting full exotics for all my alts is joke . And ascended ? None of methods aviable today is something what is problem for cassual player (cassual =/= crap ) . It’s not even hard, it’s more limited by dailies and weekly guild missions, which are stupidly easy.

Getting best possible gear for your character shouldn’t be matter of hours (as is with exotics).

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Admittedly, I do miss the days where I could walk up to a vendor in KC, or Droks and craft a base look of max armor. After which, I could seek out and craft the other ‘looks’ as I felt like it. It was much simpler in GW1.

They have to sell those cash shop mf boosts and gems-to-gold cheats somehow.

Malevi

How the hell you want to get highest rank of gear to be satisfied ?

By playing content other than Fractals? We’re still waiting for the Ascended drops in WvW that were supposed to be launched in January, for example.

If you have 8 alts in exotics (I have 6), you are out of whatever “casual gamer” means. You have weeks if not months to get ready for this update.

Only thing I’m hopping is that Anet isn’t ridiculous with T7 mats. It’d be annoying if they do it like quartz (25 T6 for one T7 and 5 T7 for one piece).

fellyn.5083:

Did you notice the part where they said it was to make crafting worthwhile again? You’ll be able to buy it off the market like exotics. Only the pieces of gear won’t be a dime a dozen.

Unless you are extremely new to the game THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE GAME NEEDS as crafting is completely worthless right now for anything other than achievement points.

I have a master crafter and I’m not new, but limiting something just so someone could profit? Sorry, no.

RedStar.4218:

If you have 8 alts in exotics (I have 6), you are out of whatever “casual gamer” means. You have weeks if not months to get ready for this update.

Only thing I’m hopping is that Anet isn’t ridiculous with T7 mats. It’d be annoying if they do it like quartz (25 T6 for one T7 and 5 T7 for one piece).

I spent months of free time to get those alts up. My free time expired, so no I don’t have any more of it. And they’re not in full ascendeds. I’m barely at my 7th amulet and 7th set of rings. No earrings even.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

except “overall” doesn’t mean anything ever. brb doing 48 fotm with white gear coz “I don’t have to have anything better” right? who cares if I make my party wipe 10 times?

this is a terrible way of making crafting … well.. it’s gonna be required now I guess?

While the blog post as a whole left a very positive impression, I am very disappointed that they will add Ascended armor/weapons to the game. I know they said they would when they introduced it, but they’ve changed their minds more than once before and I was hoping they would in this case also. I don’t know if this is going to reduce anyone else’s enthusiasm for GW2, but it sure does mine.

If we have to have it, I hope they revamp mob drop rates on the rarer items. When I compare the drop ratio between rares vs. exotics, I’d say I’ve gotten several hundred rares, and 2 exotics in 1700 hours plus. If the ratio of Ascended to Exotic drops is similar to the ratio of Exotics to Rares, many people will never see an Ascended drop.

The rare/exotic drop ratio in reward chests might be somewhat better than what I’ve seen in the open world from mobs, but it is also not that great.

Carzor Stelatis

Malevi

How the hell you want to get highest rank of gear to be satisfied ?

By playing content other than Fractals? We’re still waiting for the Ascended drops in WvW that were supposed to be launched in January, for example.

Go check wiki, you dont need to put feet into fractals for any ascended item except backpiece and even for that only drop from fractals u need drops from lvl 1 and is easy to get with magic find gear …

Oh and u can buy ascended gear and infusions from WsW laurel merchant too : 25 laurels + 250 badges for ring – yea something that is ’ REALLY HARD ’ to get if you have problem with fractals …

kokiman.2364:

Padapwn.5924:

Reason for Gw1 was so fun was how many different builds you could run and the fact that you had access to THE SAME STATS across the board.

But this is a flat out lie. Why do GW1 “fans” keep on lying about their game? There were armors with lots of + energy, with lots of + health, lots of armor vs xx. You even had skills that got stronger by maxing out PvE titles.

You could buy insignias and runes, so all the armor in the game could mirror stats from another armor, the only difference was the looks.

Arnath.2319:

Dan.2940:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

You people are tiresome…

It is happening. It is going to happen as they say. Either accept it or find a new game.

/thread.

I’m sure the posters in this thread are aware that it WILL happen, but Anet can still change their rules on how to obtain these ascended pieces and their stat difference… If you don’t speak up and tell someone that they are doing something wrong or make Anet aware that the mass population of their customers have a problem with what they are adding, they will never do anything about it.

They have listened, they have changed the rules, they have added multiple ways of obtaining Ascended items and i bet if they did not listen in the first place they would not be adding the ability to craft Ascended gear too.

The stat differences are already here, that is set in stone and can not be changed, ArenaNet are rushing out the last bits of Ascended gear and making it SUPER easy to obtain, and as there blog post says will focus on traits and skills from now on.

The very first thing they said about ascended items was that they were working on multiple ways to obtain them but it would take a while to roll them all out, no one “won” anything, people just complained and complained until they finished.

Many more people will leave and complain if they are easy to obtain. They are going to be time gated and expensive just as they should be.

Thankfully Anet is in charge and not the people on this forum.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

The very first thing they said about ascended items was that they were working on multiple ways to obtain them but it would take a while to roll them all out, no one “won” anything, people just complained and complained until they finished.

Many more people will leave and complain if they are easy to obtain. They are going to be time gated and expensive just as they should be.

Thankfully Anet is in charge and not the people on this forum.

you do realize that this is not an MMO for hardcores? Timegated and expensive doesn’t bode well with casuals. Asian grinders will love it though.

Malevil.2104:

Oh and u can buy ascended gear and infusions from WsW laurel merchant too : 25 laurels + 250 badges for ring – yea something that is ’ REALLY HARD ’ to get if you have problem with fractals …

So rather than getting the items to drop as Fractal players do (and as WvW players were supposed to be able to do six months ago), we get one item a month as a consolation prize?

Weapons Like Volcanus, Mjolnir, Aether, Foefire’s ,Wings of Dwayna etc.

I think these weapons have a significant enough investment to be given an Ascended standard, whenever Ascended weapons come out. I was wondering if Anet had any light to shed on those.

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Asbrandr.6324:

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats (Trinkets):
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

Is that figure for the exotics counting the slotted gem? It’s important to consider because Ascended items merge the gem into the stats. So to compare an Ascended berserker’s trinket to an exotic one it’s the [exotic trinket + matching gem] vs. Ascended Trinket.

Can’t be.. here are the stats
Exotic Asc
Power/prec power/pres
508 346 570 376

Difference of: 10.8% 7.9%

I don’t know the crit changes tho.

Exotic crit is 36%.. so if 36 vs 39 is a 7.7% increase. Not 22%

Your calculation is a percentage difference, I’m stating percentage changes (in this case increases); the increase of 36 to 39 is 8.33% not 7.7%. My value for the exotic crit was 32, which was an error since I didn’t include the backpiece on any of my calculations; with the correct values the increase is 20.46%. I found a site that explains it in simple terms: go to mathisfun.com to understand some basic terms.

Here’s an easier to understand breakdown using actual item names and the simple calculations:

Prototype Fractal Capacitor: 56/35/5
Magister’s Field Journal: 91/60/7
Althea’s Ashes: 91/60/7
Crystaline Band: 103/68/8
Ring of Red Death: 103/68/8
Mark of the Tethyous Houses: 126/85/9
Total: 570/376/44

Guild Assassin Backpack+Ruby Orb: 42/30/3
Ruby Orichalcum Earring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 81/55/6
Ruby Orichalcum Earring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 81/55/6
Ruby Orichalcum Ring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 92/63/6
Ruby Orichalcum Ring of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 92/63/6
Ruby Orichalcum Amulet of the Berserker (Includes Exquisitie Ruby Jewel): 115/79/8
Total: 503/345/35

Stat INCREASE from Exotic to Ascended
Power: ((570-503)/503)x100) = 13.32%
Precision: ((376-345)/345)x100) = 8.99%
Critical Damage: ((44-35)/44)x100) = 20.46

while your math appears to be correct it is very misleading. There is not a 13%/9% increase in stats overall, your actual power and precision % increases much less due to the large intrinsic stats you get. You have 916 in each stat without armor when you are 80.

Power: ((1486-1419)/1419)x100) = 4.7%
Precision: ((1292-1261)/1261)x100) = 2.5%
Critical Damage: ((44-35)/44)x100) = 20.46%

So the overall change is minimal.

Mirta.5029:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

The very first thing they said about ascended items was that they were working on multiple ways to obtain them but it would take a while to roll them all out, no one “won” anything, people just complained and complained until they finished.

Many more people will leave and complain if they are easy to obtain. They are going to be time gated and expensive just as they should be.

Thankfully Anet is in charge and not the people on this forum.

you do realize that this is not an MMO for hardcores? Timegated and expensive doesn’t bode well with casuals. Asian grinders will love it though.

again, hardcore has nothing to do with idiots wanting to grind their way to victory.

Mirta.5029:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

The very first thing they said about ascended items was that they were working on multiple ways to obtain them but it would take a while to roll them all out, no one “won” anything, people just complained and complained until they finished.

Many more people will leave and complain if they are easy to obtain. They are going to be time gated and expensive just as they should be.

Thankfully Anet is in charge and not the people on this forum.

you do realize that this is not an MMO for hardcores? Timegated and expensive doesn’t bode well with casuals. Asian grinders will love it though.

99% of this game is made for casuals, they are adding in optional content for hardcore players to enjoy.