Guild Wars 2

Hello. I am one of those many players that has yet to craft in any MMO for over a decade now. It’s just not something I enjoy, at all. Now, I’m not going to go into a rant on the new system for ascended items, it’s bad, we all know its bad, even the devs who created it probably know it’s bad for a game where you can “play how you want.”

That said, I believe the solution can be found in an old system used back in EQ2. If you brought the materials, you could open a special window with a crafting friend, and using your materials, they could craft an item that would appear in your inventory.

I believe this is the ideal solution to the crafting progression problem. It still forces players to collect the materials, you just have to interact with the crafting community in order to get the item. Add a small box on the UI so that people can put cash in, that automatically transfers to the crafter upon item completion.

Crafter makes money for crafting, fighter gets the item, it’s win win.

TL:DR – Let us pay crafters to make the items for us, with our materials.

Agreed.

This is actually a great idea. Too bad they’ll probably never listen to your idea.

I completely agree. Requiring crafting is completely against their core “ideals of accessibility.” I should be able to play how I want and not be denied any important parts of the game – ie: Ascended items.

That being said, I’m absolutely ok farming for items; therefore, Araris gives a great suggestion – something that I’ve heard worked really well in EQ2 – why not here?

This would make it better but i still think it’s not enough.

Odinsfury.8360:

This is actually a great idea. Too bad they’ll probably never listen to your idea.

Well, you never know. They had to have been expecting backlash from this, so I’d hope at least some devs would be trolling the forums and they just might stumble across this and say… Oh yeah, I remember that system, sounds good.

Unlikely perhaps… But possible.

I seriously dont know what so many have against crafting, no, like seriously….

Usually Im the one whining and complaining in the forum about stuff, but they are make or break stuff like class balance, functional stuff which have not so much aesthetic value. But crafting? I have NEVER crafted in my MMO life, thats around 10 years of experience, yet I picked up crafting easily here, followed a guide, didnt take me more than 2 hours, thats right, you read correct, les than 2 hours, no scrolls nothing, just got the stuff I needed, opened a crafting guide and voila.

If you dont want to craft then ok, just buy the weapon/farm it at bosses, but I swear it wont take you more than the gold you would save by directly buying the weapon and definitely a LOT less time than opening a crafting tab on whatever browser you use, 10 gold and voila.

All this ascended deal sound to me like; “WAAAHHH I dont want to do anything but farm [now extinct] COF/zerg WvW and receive it all!!!” Please guys, Appreciate what Anet is trying to do now; make people try different parts of the game, involve in the game. I would also like to spend my entire day just walking around Caleddon Forest or Sparkfly and do all JP and sit at the best spots and talk to people, but if you want something you have to give up something, it is even in the eternal alchemy!

EDIT:

That being said, I’m absolutely ok farming for items;

This being the prime example of what Im talking about, Im also used to farm things, but I have grown fond of JPs, what do I get at mostwhen I do them? A couple blues, maybe a green and some useless crest, usually a soldier one. Now Jps are something Im rewarding for doing. Balthazar, I have had to rely on Borlis pass for the last 2 times to get it open (props to you Borlis!), now that, as well as meta events are something you might benefice. Also, remember doing WVW bosses give you crafting stuff AS WELL AS A CHANCE TO GET AN ASCENDED WEAPON OF YOU STAT’S CHOICE!

@Fortus, what you may have missed during your rambling comments and half formed ideas, is that this thread is not a complaint, it’s a way for Anet to give crafters a place in the community, while also taking the obnoxious requirement of crafting out of the equation for people that do not enjoy it.

They have implemented several ways to attain gear so that multiple play styles can access the same items. This is the reason that people are upset. Because the current situation is an A or B problem.

A. Craft
B. RNG

Nobody is whining and complaining… Except possibly yourself. Nobody is saying that crafting is difficult, the very idea that it would be is laughable. They’re saying that the core principle of the game is to play how you want.

As to your other nonsensical comments, farming is dead? L2p bud, not only is farming not dead, it’s being developed and facilitated by Anet.

Hope that helps clear it up for you. Next time, take the time to actually read the OP, before making comments.

Araris.7839:

@Fortus, what you may have missed during your rambling comments and half formed ideas, is that this thread is not a complaint, it’s a way for Anet to give crafters a place in the community, while also taking the obnoxious requirement of crafting out of the equation for people that do not enjoy it.

They have implemented several ways to attain gear so that multiple play styles can access the same items. This is the reason that people are upset. Because the current situation is an A or B problem.

A. Craft
B. RNG

Nobody is whining and complaining… Except possibly yourself. Nobody is saying that crafting is difficult, the very idea that it would be is laughable. They’re saying that the core principle of the game is to play how you want.

As to your other nonsensical comments, farming is dead? L2p bud, not only is farming not dead, it’s being developed and facilitated by Anet.

Hope that helps clear it up for you. Next time, take the time to actually read the OP, before making comments.

Well certainly I did misread the original post but I noticed a very stingy tone off you. When did I said farming was dead? I said CoF farming is dead, so l2read, bud. Im well aware Anet is encouraging farming (scarlet, which is what Im doing).

But I still dont understand your thread point, basically you want something that lets you bypass the crafting process for free? Because basically what you want is “I get the mats, I craft what I exactly want”which is like saying that all of us got crafting maxed we did it because we enjoyed it rather than just to craft those last stuff you can do with the profession.

Now that we settle that it cannot be for free then comes the question of how much would you be willing to pay for it such that it does not stomp on those of us which DID craft in order to be able t get those last stuff (400) you could do? It cant be made cheaper than maxing crafting, so basically you have to be paying convenience, I would be ok with anything above 15 gold and can only be used once per item.

Hope that clears it

You want to get the chocolate cake without paying for it, which leaves all of us which DID pay and did the lane to buy it to be like “what?!” I like your idea but you have to give up something for it. Anet will never implement this in the current proposed way and I will support that decision. You have to give up something in order to receive something else.

Sigh… Let me explain it again to you. You… Pay… The… Crafter… To… Make…the…item…you…want…., also, you… Still… Gather… All…required… Materials…yourself.

I can’t slow it down any more, so I hope you can understand that. It’s not asking for something for free, it’s paying for it with your own money, to the crafter. This gives crafting a purpose in the game, which people have been complaining about since launch.

It rewards them for their efforts by allowing them to gain money from their fellow players, to use the skill they took the time to level.

It also gives players another method of gaining ascended weapons besides crafting. You know, the way they gave them a means of attaining other ascended besides laurels or fractals?

Now.. Please read this post very carefully and stop trying to derail my thread into your rant on how an item should only come from 1 method primarily. Which goes against every system in the game.

This probably won’t actually work.

RuneScape actually uses a system like this, where certain items can be crafted through ‘borrowing’ other people’s skills. But it ended up being a case where crafters actually ended up looking for people they could help for free because of the free experience. JaGex (guys who made the game) eventually just settled with the system we have now where the best items aren’t tradable.

If you removed the experience gain, people would just ask their guildies to help them for free. There has to be some sort of a ‘cost’ involved in doing it, either the opportunity cost of making your own (ie, time-gating it) or another resource (e.g. using skillpoints as an ingredient).

I’d want them to make you use up more skillpoints and karma in crafting ascended stuff and just not time-gate it. Then we got a way to use our massive piles of karma and SPs.

@Xae, I’d be fine with some type of currency needed to make ascended tiers of weapons through this system. Perhaps something that has to be purchased via money/karma/one of our other 13 currencies.

Edit PS: thank you for contributing to the thread in a helpful manner. Even know you’re against my idea, I am glad you took the time to come up with an actual issue instead of foaming at the mouth and spewing asinine comments.

If you hate GW2’s crafting without having tried it, you’re perhaps missing out. It isn’t the massive afk timesink it is in other games. If you have tried it and still hate it then.. tough luck really. It’s the best system I have experienced in an MMO so far.