I had a talk with a friend last night, and at some point we reached the fractals/ascended stuff since it’s bothering many people and the complete lack of official information is not helping at all. Anyway I asked how far this friend is in the fractals, and the answer was “3 and I can’t find a party but I don’t care”. And of course I was like o.O" “But that is how you make ascended rings” and after that the conversation continued with my friend saying “I’ll just wait for the next patch when ANet will add all the ascended stuff as purchasable stuff in WvW” and again I was shocked O.O . I asked if the information is from a trusted source and the friend in question told me that it is.
So here is a fair question … am I currently wasting my time in the fractals?
Because if the WvW junkies just go and buy the top tiered stuff and I worked my kitten off in the fractals, seems “just a little bit” unfair. Not to mention the price a backpiece is worth with globs running for ~30s as of the writting of this thread and 250 T6 fine-craft mats which drop extremely rare and prices start from 5s unless you’re buying bones.
There are currently two possible paths to Ascended eq.
The Casual path will eventually lead to all ascended eq either being removed, their stats reduced to exotic level, or easily and relatively cheaply accessible. In such situation getting ascended eq currently is sensible only if you want an advantage now, because it will get cheaper later on.
On the second path – Progressive – the cost of ascended eq will remain the same. Even if new options (like WvW tokens) will go in, the price will be extremely high. On that path getting ascended eq from fractals is sensible only if you want the advantage now – because soon there will be a new tier and even better eq.
Which option will win is currently unknown.
Actions, not words.
Remember, remember, 15th of November
But farming WvW is extremely easy. Just move with the zreg and try to hit as much targets as possible to obtain the badges/tokens. While you have FoTM which does require some team effort and it’s not that easy if you run with PUG all the time, which is always risky because few days ago, when I was at fractals 12 (notice the difficulty level) the party I ended up didn’t know what to do on the maps. It was THAT bad. These people leeched their way up. At least at lvl 20 there are none like these yet but still, at lvl 20 the dungeon itself is quite hard compared to WvW
There are currently two possible paths to Ascended eq.
The Casual path will eventually lead to all ascended eq either being removed, their stats reduced to exotic level, or easily and relatively cheaply accessible. In such situation getting ascended eq currently is sensible only if you want an advantage now, because it will get cheaper later on.
On the second path – Progressive – the cost of ascended eq will remain the same. Even if new options (like WvW tokens) will go in, the price will be extremely high. On that path getting ascended eq from fractals is sensible only if you want the advantage now – because soon there will be a new tier and even better eq.
Which option will win is currently unknown.
You have no proof that there will be a new tier.
They will be adding more ascended items yes, but no one said anything about a new tier. Quote the Dev all you like, they still said in many other posts/blogs, Ascended was to fill the gap between exotic and legendary…. I don’t see how you get a new teir out of that.
..so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should
well I bought this game because I readed I can do wathever I want and get the same gear than everybody.
I find pve boring and want other way to get the best equipment since WvW and SPVP are the only things I enjoy. Also I dont want to grind/farm
so I have stopped playing until there are other ways to get ascended gear.
I expected a casual mmo, that’s what they sold, I have no time for wow and simmilars, if people get last gear and get bored, they should be playing a gear treadmill mmo like wow.
to OP, you should be doing fractals for fun, not for gear
They will be adding more ascended items yes, but no one said anything about a new tier. Quote the Dev all you like, they still said in many other posts/blogs, Ascended was to fill the gap between exotic and legendary…. I don’t see how you get a new teir out of that.
I currently can’t find the posting but they said that each form of progression (meaning horizontal as well as vertical) is equally important to them.
In addition, even without this statement, introducing ascended gear with higher stats than exotics would have made no sense at all if it wasn’t meant to be the first step of a gear treadmill. Ascended gear could have had the same stats as exotics with the addition of an infusion slot.
Salix Babylonica (Necro), Tharnath (Guardian), N Faculty (Mesmer),
Occam Pi (Ele), Acaena Elongata (Warrior), Finja Salversdotir (Ranger),
Bytestream (Engineer), Vim Whitespace (Thief)
to OP, you should be doing fractals for fun, not for gear
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m having a blast in there. Especially when I beat the next level, it gives me a feel of satisfaction. And still it would be lame if you get the same stuff I do with much less effort. It’s just not fair. And besides, the stat bump is worthless especially in WvW. You have no agony there either, you guys can’t really complain. I do play WvW every once in a while but I mostly do dungeon runs and stats and player skill and team effort matter. Also in sPvP there is no such thing as ascended because of balance.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m having a blast in there. Especially when I beat the next level, it gives me a feel of satisfaction. And still it would be lame if you get the same stuff I do with much less effort. It’s just not fair.
I remember something about GW2 and a carrot in a stick, it applies here, its what they sold and they changed after 3 months. So if next patch makes them go back to their original target I will be happy with it
if not, well… its not the first time a hiped game isn’t what they said it would be
There are currently two possible paths to Ascended eq.
The Casual path will eventually lead to all ascended eq either being removed, their stats reduced to exotic level, or easily and relatively cheaply accessible. In such situation getting ascended eq currently is sensible only if you want an advantage now, because it will get cheaper later on.
On the second path – Progressive – the cost of ascended eq will remain the same. Even if new options (like WvW tokens) will go in, the price will be extremely high. On that path getting ascended eq from fractals is sensible only if you want the advantage now – because soon there will be a new tier and even better eq.
Which option will win is currently unknown.
You have no proof that there will be a new tier.
They will be adding more ascended items yes, but no one said anything about a new tier. Quote the Dev all you like, they still said in many other posts/blogs, Ascended was to fill the gap between exotic and legendary…. I don’t see how you get a new teir out of that.
I didn’t. I said it’s one of the two possible paths. basically, they will have to decide whether they want this game to be more for casual players that got here due to no stat grind promises, or for grinders that want gear treadmill. In the long run it’s impossible to satisfy both groups. So either they will step back from the treadmill by making ascended eq more easily achievable, or they will go forward towards it – but once they do, they will have to put new tiers on a steady schedule, or they will lose both groups of players.
Actions, not words.
Remember, remember, 15th of November
Nah, I look on ascended as more of an experiment. I was quite frustrated at first, but then realized that in the end it’s not so bad although some things could’ve been better done/explained so it would feel less of a slap over the face. Either way IMO GW2 is by far the best MMO out there right now. With that being said, I really don’t want to see some people getting the new stuff faster than others, while not experiencing the new content the game has to offer. The problem is that, PvE based players can’t possibly reach the WvW-only crowd in term of tokens as it is vice versa – dungeon-wise. So a middle solution must be found. I play the game in a certain way, and it would suck for me personally if it turns out that I’m playing the game “the wrong way”. I already think of me as kind of a succesfull player :|
