Guild Wars 2

Yargesh.4965:

Lack of wanting to leave and find something fun seems to be high on your list.

Sorry I wont leave.

I will point out, area that I feel need work or improvement, or things that should be added.

And guess what I’m doing right now. Waiting in queue to get in WvW.

Try and make the difference between. The game has nothing, and the game needs something.

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Yargesh.4965:

Lack of wanting to leave and find something fun seems to be high on your list.

Sorry I wont leave.

I will point out, area that I feel need work or improvement, or things that should be added.

And guess what I’m doing right now. Waiting in queue to get in WvW.

Try and make the difference between. The game has nothing, and the game needs something.

Apparently the game has WvW, at the very least. Which apparently continues to merit some of your time and attention.

Constructive criticism is good. “The game has nothing” isn’t very helpful. And “the game needs something” is just a string of empty words.

Why is it that so few people who complain about the game are willing to propose a solution?

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Yargesh.4965:

Lack of wanting to leave and find something fun seems to be high on your list.

Sorry I wont leave.

I will point out, area that I feel need work or improvement, or things that should be added.

And guess what I’m doing right now. Waiting in queue to get in WvW.

Try and make the difference between. The game has nothing, and the game needs something.

Don’t leave then, not my problem.

1:32-1:54 (Watch the link in my sig.)

Like I said, constructive criticism is good. If you find flaws, make note of them, but please post at least a loosely-formed suggestion for fixing it. People say they don’t like something, Anet changes it, and then people complain even more. Maybe it would help if people made suggestions such as, “I’m not fond of feature <w> because of <x> and <y>, so what if you implemented <z> instead?” instead of, “I’m not fond of <x>. But I hate the new <y> more. And please God don’t do <z>.”

Blair.3796:

Like I said, constructive criticism is good. If you find flaws, make note of them, but please post at least a loosely-formed suggestion for fixing it. People say they don’t like something, Anet changes it, and then people complain even more. Maybe it would help if people made suggestions such as, “I’m not fond of feature <w> because of <x> and <y>, so what if you implemented <z> instead?” instead of, “I’m not fond of <x>. But I hate the new <y> more. And please God don’t do <z>.”

Now, if you ever went to the bug section, or ever read a single suggestion on these forums you would come to the conclusion that they (Anet) do not care.

Is it the player job to fix the game? The answer is no.

All the power we have is to point out things that do not work, or things that could added etc.

And honestly, if Anet did read all the suggestion or all the threads on this forum there would not be that much QQ about almost everything.

What is funny is that people pointed out issues that would occur if thing X would be added to the game. Guess what, they were right.

We had CDI for what reason exactly? To give suggestions. And do you see something coming out of it? I don’t

Maybe my way of saying things is not the way you think is right. But deal with it.

I will point out things I don’t like, and maybe other people will come here and do the same. And guess what, some people are doing it.

A R W E N.6895:

Now, if you ever went to the bug section, or ever read a single suggestion on these forums you would come to the conclusion that they (Anet) do not care.

Actually, I do not get that impression at all.

I have read the forums.
I have checked the reddit.
I’ve read the interviews.
I’ve browsed the blog posts.
I’ve even subscribed to, and watch, their twitch channel.

“We don’t care” is the furthest thing I get from them.

Edit: I even check their twitter and their facebook on occasion….

Blair.3796:

I’m having trouble discerning your priorities. If this game is so boring to you and such an apocalyptic waste of your time (and from the sound of it has been for quote a while), then why exactly are you still here?

If you have to ask, the answer is ‘forum PvP.’ The answer is always ‘forum PvP.’

A R W E N.6895:

-The lack of added permanent playable content.

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-The lack of challenging content (Don’t say fractal is hard lol)

Agree with these ones a lot!

Vorch.2985:

Doom, doom, doom, doom…

….. this constant “Fix the game, it’s unplayable” thing is very overblown…

Going to sleep.

And this!

A R W E N.6895:

Now, if you ever went to the bug section, or ever read a single suggestion on these forums you would come to the conclusion that they (Anet) do not care.

Because they don’t usually respond, or because many of the bugs still aren’t fixed? Because fixing bugs takes time, and it’s often an infuriating process. Debugging was always my least favorite part about my programming courses.

Unfortunately, many of the bugged issues simply aren’t that big a deal, comparatively. When players say “we want <x>, <y> and <z>,” and <z> happens to be an old minor bug, the developer teams are more likely to focus on <x> and <y>.

Is it the player job to fix the game? The answer is no.

All the power we have is to point out things that do not work, or things that could added etc.

There’s a level of moderation for everything. Something like “the trading post hasn’t worked for five days, please fix” is a legitimate issue that warrants immediate attention. And making suggestions such as, “why not add new maps so that veteran players will have some fresh permanent content” is a helpful way to contribute to improving the game. But comments such as, “I don’t like <x>, <x> sucks, why did you implement <x>, I told you not to do <x>” are quite the uninspiring read; if there’s a problem that isn’t a bug or a tech issue, then propose a solution.

Maybe my way of saying things is not the way you think is right. But deal with it.

Now if you have something constructive regarding things that the game lack of, feel free to list them. Otherwise, feel free to go on another topic and try your best to beat it to death.

I love you too <3

Where did people get the idea that the official forums were the place to come and complain, in great detail, about everything they dislike in the game? Why is that a belief that exists?

timmyf.1490:

Where did people get the idea that the official forums were the place to come and complain, in great detail, about everything they dislike in the game? Why is that a belief that exists?

Maybe because it is the ’’Official" forum.

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timmyf.1490:

Where did people get the idea that the official forums were the place to come and complain, in great detail, about everything they dislike in the game? Why is that a belief that exists?

Maybe because it is the ’’Official" forum.

Is it just because you think you have a higher likelihood of getting everything you want or something?

Bug reports are one thing. Posting bug reports on the official forums is useful and makes sense. All these QQ posts? I don’t get it.

I am not personnaly asking for something. I am pointing out things that either needs to be fixed (bugs), needs to be added (lack of permanent playable content).

Don’t compare this thread to a QQ thread.

There is a big difference between ‘’I am entitled to this and that’’ and ‘’There is a lack of this and that’’.

And maybe if you take a step back and look at the general discussion page. You can clearly see that the amount of what you define as QQ as drastically increased since the patch release.

A R W E N.6895:

I am not personnaly asking for something. I am pointing out things that either needs to be fixed (bugs), needs to be added (lack of permanent playable content).

Don’t compare this thread to a QQ thread.

There is a big difference between ‘’I am entitled to this and that’’ and ‘’There is a lack of this and that’’.

And maybe if you take a step back and look at the general discussion page. You can clearly see that the amount of what you define as QQ as drastically increased since the patch release.

It happens with every patch-release.

They won’t be acknowledging flaws every kitten time because they can spend that time fixing stuff and it’s not good speech for the company as a whole, I just wish the next Feature Pack gets renamed to “Bug-fixing Pack”, I’ll be wholeheartedly grateful for that.

A R W E N.6895:

I am not personnaly asking for something. I am pointing out things that either needs to be fixed (bugs), needs to be added (lack of permanent playable content).

Don’t compare this thread to a QQ thread.

There is a big difference between ‘’I am entitled to this and that’’ and ‘’There is a lack of this and that’’.

And maybe if you take a step back and look at the general discussion page. You can clearly see that the amount of what you define as QQ as drastically increased since the patch release.

I think it’s the way you presented it.

However, some of your ‘lack’ points are also subjective.

For example:

“The game lacks challenging content.”
Not all will agree with you, as everyone has a different level of skill and different definitions of what they find to be challenging. Perhaps instead of saying it lacks challenging content, maybe suggest what type of skilled content you desire and how it might be implemented.

I think had you presented your… concerns differently, you’d have gotten less lash back.

A R W E N.6895:

-The lack of challenging content (Don’t say fractal is hard lol)

And they just nerfed Tequalt and Triple Trouble, the first is probably doable with 30 naked people now and the latter melts in 15 seconds even without Zerkers.

-The diminishing playerbase (Megaserver as a result of that)

Numbers, source or something that proves it please….

daros.3407:

-The diminishing playerbase (Megaserver as a result of that)

Numbers, source or something that proves it please….

Just think outside the box. Why would you think that a Megaserver would be implemented if there was enough player in every server to start with.

Before the update, I saw numerous time thread like ‘’This map is emply" or ’’My server is empty’’

I find that the megaserver is just a way to hide the emptyness that was present in certain map before it was implemented.

No need for number. Just remember how your server was before the update and after the update.

Megaserver was implemented because players on these forums spent over a year demanding some sort of underflow system because mid-level maps were empty.

Also: I think Megaserver allows them to add new zones without stretching the population out. I consider it a necessary first step for expanding the map. But that’s just speculation.

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daros.3407:

-The diminishing playerbase (Megaserver as a result of that)

Numbers, source or something that proves it please….

Just think outside the box. Why would you think that a Megaserver would be implemented if there was enough player in every server to start with.

Before the update, I saw numerous time thread like ‘’This map is emply" or ’’My server is empty’’

I find that the megaserver is just a way to hide the emptyness that was present in certain map before it was implemented.

No need for number. Just remember how your server was before the update and after the update.

I was on Aurora glade and this server was always full everywhere. Some maps are always less populated, becouse there is just nothing to do in them. It’s normal in every MMO. As same as it’s normal that some servers are less populated. Every game has high and low population server.
There is no reason to think of megaserver like way to hide emptyness. Even if i guested to other servers i never had problem with empty game. Megaserver is far from merging servers that is common in low populated MMOs

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Yargesh.4965:

Lack of wanting to leave and find something fun seems to be high on your list.

Sorry I wont leave.

I will point out, area that I feel need work or improvement, or things that should be added.

And guess what I’m doing right now. Waiting in queue to get in WvW.

Try and make the difference between. The game has nothing, and the game needs something.

Wait a minute. The game is dying, and you’re waiting in queue for WvW? /irony.

There is no excuse for poor quality control. It is true that Anet has not addressed some of the bugs in this title however, it could be worse, we could be dealing with the Cryptic bug team working on Neverwinter. trust me it’s terrible over there. All in all however, that doesn’t mean they should stop fixing bugs I just think the OP has a point in that whoever is working on the bugs might have the same ADHD priority problem that they have had for quite some time now (until this patch mind you) where they don’t place some bugs ahead of others and just randomly fix things that have nothing to do with anything. Such as all event bugs should take priority over clipping, I agree we are still waiting on two major things in this title…permanent playable content (most notably in the open world), and bug fixes I personally would like fixes in the balance department because there are just some really useless skills out there that need addressing and sprucing up.

However, I don’t agree that they haven’t been communicative or that they haven’t achknowledged that their old methods weren’t working because I’ve seen the interview videos both before and during this patch and I know what they said, most noteably what Colin has said about what they have planned and why they went in this direction, and as long as they stay on the path of these CDIs and offer major updates to content and features over the next year for all three player types, they will be good in my book.

IF people did not complain, a rather vocal segment of the forums would be out of a hobby.

The ones who complain about complainers would have nothing to complain about.

This wouldn’t last long. One of them would have a minor issue with something and the rest would turn on them like a pack of hungry hyenas finding a slow, obese rabbit.

Polar opposites but much the same. Some look for any excuse to lodge a complaint. Some look for any excuse to blast a “complainer”. Both toxic, both wrong.