Time grind and you! un alt friendly systems.

Time grind and you! un alt friendly systems.

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Posted by: Protoavis.9107

Protoavis.9107

I think the irony of the situation is the promoted the game so heavily on being able to get max gear easily after hitting max level only to do a 180 on what they had been promoting before release, kind of makes me feel like I was lied to about the product and given the rest of the shady decisions by Anet a couple months post release I’ve stopped trusting them. That 180, a complete lie to their customers, and the continual RNG boxes are going to be what ends up trashing Anets rep, making systems that continually just leave people unhappy isn’t a great PR approach.

Let us buy vendor mats (eg spools of thread) in 250 stacks, end the excessive clicking.

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Posted by: Ratty.5176

Ratty.5176

. Guild earrings are impossible to get unless you are in a zerg guild (hint: most people aren’t in one).

This is not entirely true. I run the weekly catchup run for the Guild, we generally have 6-10 people as most do the Guild events at the weekend. So far almost everyone gets 4 commendations from events in an hour. So it does feel like you can do them quite casually.

However, the real issue is building up the influence, to open them. (The Merits are less of the issue as you should be able to get them with a small group of people)

Saying this I think almost every server has at least one Guild that allows people to join for a couple of hours a week just for the events. And even if your server doesn’t you should be able to guest to do this.

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Posted by: Rezzet.3614

Rezzet.3614

even for non althoholics this is terrible it locks players in specific builds since its so hard to obtain ascended gear they actually need/want now take this issue and multiply it by number of alts and now you can see how massive this issue is. basically it takes 4 months to get 2 accesories only 1 month for amulet rings take 10 days if you do daily fractal or 2 months if you go for laurels .

These are slightly off. You can get them much quicker.

2 Rings, Well you can get 1 Pristines a day per character per 10 levels in fractals. I could at the moment if I could be bothered with my alts get 11 Pristine Relics in a day. So it would take 2 days. But even then most people that do lots of Fractals have so many spare rings. I have a set on every one of my 8 characters. 3 of my characters have 2 sets and I have about 20+ rings sitting in the bank (after selling duplicates). So no real issue getting rings for alts.

Necklace. Now you can get them for 20 Laurels and 250 BoH. So if you do some WvW (or even tkitten Jumping Puzzle every so often) you can get 2 of them a month..

Backpack. Now these can be expensive. But I do now have them for all of my 8 characters, it’s just a case of grinding fractals or grinding money. There is no huge time gating on them.

Earrings. I’m now getting one every 2 weeks, so I can do a character every month. This is probably the slowest one at the moment. But you can always throw Laurels at it if you finish your Necklaces first.

So Anyway out of 8 toons.. All have rings. All have Backpacks. 4 have Necklaces. 2 have Earrings (but I have the tokens for another toon, once I decide which to give them too).

I wouldn’t say it’s that bad for alts.

I would like to point out to you that I stated in the initial post this is mainly for those who are unable or wont do guild missions or fractals… I myself can do fractals but that’s it I can’t find a guild to do missions with so the necklace and accessories are going to dig into my necklace time and my pocket due to big ecto requirement. The system is just a massive time gated play this or you’re to be punished with a much more expensive version of this item kind of system. I explain that in the initial post to.

12 comindations + 5 gold and a chance to get them upon compleation VS 40 laurls +50 ecto with no alternative outside of guild missions ……

10 pristine fractal relics sand a chance to get them upon 10,20,30 complete VS 30 laurls

Necklace is 30 laurls or 20 laurls + 250 badges of honor

I’m factoring in the monthly.

3 1/3 months + 100 ecto vs 4-28 days +10 gold…. This is just doing daily/monthly vs doing the content they rope the content to. I did 30 day resets for the monthly and factored them in.. The difference between them is staggering it’s nearly a x3 factor for those who don’t do the content….. For them saying they want players to play how they want they sure punish them hardcore for avoiding content they don’t want to do. Most of the players I’m talking about don’t like wvw or fractals and are in smaller guilds who would rather keep to themselves….

Keep in mind though this is for current content and is not including the backpack I don’t include that because you can craft one yourself When they add armor and weapons this is going to be hyper extended if they keep going at this rate… Imagine 30 days per 1 piece of armor and then like 50-60 for the weapons…. It will go upwards of 1+ year to gear 1 character for players who only do daily/monthlies and if that person misses a few days or a monthly due to real life butting in that time goes up….

I have 11 alts, yes ascended is a nightmare, especially since i hate GW2 dungeons/FotM, but to me the main issue above all else is the gating builds, Ascended really forces one build mindset which in modern MMO’s is pretty dated and bad…

What this guy says this is the main issue that some keep overlooking…

TL;DR
The system is easy IF you take part in the content…. If you don’t like said content they punish you with a system that takes 3x-4x longer to progress the characters… It discourages gearing alts or even getting a 2nd set for your main character in reasonable time.

yeah because players get to choose wich Ascended item they want each day they do the daily fractal /sarcasm