Guild Wars 2

juno.1840:

The TP explains it all — you don’t even need to guess. The prices are higher than they were before the excessive drop rate was in effect. That’s all the evidence you need.

You’re forgetting the human element here. People aren’t terrible at estimating, but they panic easily and it’s difficult to make a proper estimation of value with entirely virtual things. Their perceived value is now higher because all people saw was the sudden sharp drop in supply. They never noticed or cared before. The only thing that will answer it for sure is the drop rates themselves, the trading post is a fickle place.

juno.1840:

The TP explains it all — you don’t even need to guess. The prices are higher than they were before the excessive drop rate was in effect. That’s all the evidence you need.

Drop rates are probably the same, the difference is there are far fewer dyes coming into the trade post with the mass bot ban.

That’s also a good point. Price alone is a poor indicator of something like drop rate.

I love how people think.

People complain about Bots > ANet bans bots > prices of items on the TP increase in price > Players assume price increase is due to nerfed drop rate.

No, the reason the TP prices increased so much for items is because the bots are no longer there to unload their goods. It’s that simple. If you want really low prices then Bots are a good thing as they undercut, undercut, undercut, and then undercut some more. If you want the bots gone then expect the prices of items to go up, especially considering the TP is bound to all servers.

Artorous.8573:

I love how people think.

People complain about Bots > ANet bans bots > prices of items on the TP increase in price > Players assume price increase is due to nerfed drop rate.

I think you’ve partly missed the point. The OP and others have observed that the drop rate itself seems to be lower, from personal experience, which is of course only subjective.

There’s two factors at work here. Yes, the war on bots is having a knock-on effect on TP prices across a whole range of items. But the drop rate of unidentified dyes also seems to have fallen as many are reporting from their daily playing sessions.

DirtyApe.9360:

Drop rates are probably the same, the difference is there are far fewer dyes coming into the trade post with the mass bot ban.

^This, people forgets that less bots = less stuff in TP
Anyway, prices need to balance out, they are way too high and still rissing…23s+ per ecto is insane.

I seem to be getting the same as always, sometimes 3 or 4 within 2 hours, sometimes nothing, maybe people got used to the bugged rate.

Dye prices at gem store aren’t worth it. How do we make it more worthwhile? Increase prices of all TP dyes.

How do we do that? Decrease the drop rate! But that will get everyone mad….

Increase the drop rate temporarily, then drop it as a fix… then forget to bring it back up to the original drop rate. Success!

Medazolam.3058:

when the prices were in the 2s-3s range, i must have bought about 500 dyes easy, got the gambling bug bad.

Yeah, when the were < 3 or up to 3.5 I was buying them by the 100 even though I already have amost every dye on my main. Most of my many alts have sexy rares too. It’s a terrible addiction that kills what little income I have.

But this inflation has pretty much curbed my habit, so thanks ANet!

My conspiracy theory is, ANet wants to steer people towards dye paks in the gem store. Those really weren’t worth buying with dye drop rates high and prices so low.

The current drop rate is brutally low compared to what it was before they “accidentally” increased the rate. My theory continues that they intentionally upped the rate briefly to then turn around and crush the rate under the premise of “fixing the problem” the increase caused (which it has done and beyond, well beyond).

Luck aside, the TP relfects drop rates as a whole. I don’t think bots getting slapped down is that much of a factor since dyes drop for everyone at all levels (or used to) so lack of bots shouldn’t make THIS much of a dent (compared to what it’s doing for rare crafting mat prices).

ANet has been doing patches for the most trivial of things at times. If they felt like they overcorrected for this after doing a patch JUST to correct the increased rate, they could’ve already balanced it out, not that I really believe they can make mistakes with this because they have metrics and data tracking and a pretty good idea of what dinking with drop rates will do to supply and demand.

Either way, conspiracy or not, the current dye situation is lot less fun for those of us that like to buy lots of dyes and play “dye lotto.”

I have gotten exactly one dye drop since the patch- before the dye profusion, I used to get at least one every day or two.
I have started buying them again on the TP- sad for my pocket. My husband did get Midnight fire and he was nice enough to give it to me
I even crafted a bunch on my cheff just to get my fix.

I almost never get them any more. I actually got one last night on a new char and when I saw it in my bag there was a moment of, wait, what’s that?

I’ve got a few dyes and i think it should be like this, though they should make it account bound.