Guild Wars 2

@Orlen – So what IS accepting PvE endgame? Since exploration isn’t one, please don’t say raids.

well that is an interesting question, i wouldn’t have said raids no.

but some form of larger group combat that isn’t a dragon….before you say it, is required.

end game should be something this game focuses on, not something say wow focuses on.

guild wars…wait the end game is in the title of the kitten game, let the guilds fight each other as they did in gw1, the rewards should be something subtle and interesting but not gear.

this game should stay pvp centric but it needs to increase the pvp options available.

if WvWvW can’t render that many players they either need to do one of two things, sort out the game engine so it can render that many players, or restrict the number of players allowed on a map to allow the game to render them all and scale everything accordingly.

guild vs guild would give players more options and allow for a different level of competition

end game doesn’t have to be pve content like other games have done, but they do need to add something.

see my view of end game isn’t that bad i’m not screaming wow raids or anything remotly like that either, or adding a gear grind as really that would ruin this game.

Im not surprised that a small group of people complain, its like that everywhere in life. Someone will always complain, even if they are given something really great.

Im rly surprised how some ppl look at Guild Wars 2. They want something to change yet they still want it to be the same :O its like they want eat cookie and still have it :]

Anyway for me Guild Wars 2 its great, many many new ideas, i didnt want to see another standard MMO where i usualy will play to a point where i see im doing everything over and over and over again, if every MMO is the same its obvious i go to where my friends are or to the one that is most popular.

Im glad GW2 is different story.

Ofc GW2 isnt perfect, there are things that need to be fixed, twicked and so on like in every MMO but overall Guild Wars 2 its very good!

I was about to post a huge wall of text, but Basil here nailed it:

Im rly surprised how some ppl look at Guild Wars 2. They want something to change yet they still want it to be the same :O its like they want eat cookie and still have it :]

Also by the way some people act on the forums it looks like their lives depends on GW2.

The game has issues, no one can deny it, but it’s still a game, each one of us could leave it for other mmos or wait for updates

Personaly I am having fun on GW2 and even if I stopped right now, I would be extremely happy of what I got for my 60€.

-Sigh

See heres the thing, I love how close knit this community is and how friendly it is, how criticisms are always addressed and welcomed with maturity…

Lets take a look shall we?

“GW2 caters to people who are tired of running in circles – complaints are from people who expected another traditional MMO regardless if Anet yelled the opposite for months.
Would be cool if Anet offered a free WoW trial month to people who aren’t happy with GW2.
Like “Don’t like chess? Don’t worry here is your tic-tac-toe”.”

Contrary to popular belief, World of Warcraft actually does have involved activities (as does GW 2) Do you believe that dodge rolling suddenly makes GW 2 some marvel of MMO development? I swear so many people must break their wrists patting themselves on the back from thinking they are some genius because they like GW 2.

Please point out a GW 2 feature that isn’t in another MMO..
The only one I can think of is the Downed state…

I don’t see what makes GW 2 “fans” to be such a expert level MMOer that they would speak of other players who enjoyed highly successful MMO’s with such disdain.

My personal favorite.

“GW2 is not your cookie-cutter, child-proof, spoon-feeding, EZ-mode, UI-based, passive-combat,
hand-helding, back-patting, gimmicky MMO.”

I disagree,
1)cookie cutters are rampant in this game already. We’ve already seen some builds that have been nerfed largely due to their incredible success.

2) I’m not quite sure on what you mean by child proofing?

3)I’d say everything is pretty much spoon fed, perhaps you missed the scouts who tell you where all the events are and how even your quests on your story line have a level suggestion.

4)EZ-Mode? I’d say it depends on whom you ask many people have already acquired the best gear they’d ever get and downed the toughest fights the devs have offered us. Heck they give many classes the ability to rez THEMSELVES and anyone can ressurect anyone else, many dungeon encounter with pugs often devolve to corpse rushing bosses by people whom don’t care to pay heed to mechanics. How is that not EZ-Mode?

5)UI-based. Really? I guess you must’ve got the special edition that comes without a User Interface (UI)

6)Passive-combat. I would say given the amount of unattended botting there are plenty of occasions where actual human input isn’t necessary.

7)hand-helding, back-patting. Its hand “holding” and I think the game actually gives you just as much guidance as any other game. The game constantly heaps “your so awesome” onto you, especially in the story mode…its the idea to make you feel important, its the reason your guild banner pops up on the side of the keep they claim. I’d say thats a pretty stern pat on the back.

8)Gimmicky MMO. Every MMO has a gimmick, take your pick which one GW 2 uses be it the downed state or the double tap dodge.

Bottom line is that GW 2 is different, but not unique. While I encourage players to enjoy playing it and hope they do so, they really need to get over themselves by thinking that people who liked things from GW 2’s predecessors are somehow beneath them.

By expressing opinions we improve the situation as a community, if we choose to stay silent then either people don’t “want” to play the game or are fine with it.

Many people who express their dislike of something are doing so because they want a reason to stick around or in some cases may be trolling, but they shouldn’t be dismissed by those that don’t see eye to eye with them.