Guild Wars 2

My 4 year old computer i got for 500€,planning to do some summer works this(next) year and buy a new one for around 1200€.

i3 540(OC’d to 3,3GHz-didn’t go further since it’s a stock cooler)
some cheapo 4+2GB RAM
500 GB WD Blue(might be seagate,cba. to open and check )
AMD 5770
LG E2240

Running on 1920×1080,everything high,with shadows on medium and reflections off,no AA since i use SweetFX.Character quality and limit on high.

~45 FPS in PvE

Up to 15 players it works normally,but 13 FPS in big zergs,lowering everything on lowest makes it go to 15 so yeah,just playing it on high xD

Cush.4063:

Corpus Christi.2057:

People still didn’t get it that, unless they’re working on some ultra-new virtual graphic generators ( used by e.g. architects ), they will not need 16 gb of RAM in the nearest future ( a couple of years at least ).

It amazes me, really…

That was the point of building this computer. To make it extremely powerful and to future proof it for a good amount of time. Is there something wrong with that? Especially when ram is one of the cheapest things on the rig.

Cush…

In the old days MBs and OSs could not address or access memory above a certain limit, in today’s world of multi-tasking, multi-threading, multi-core multi-virtuial machine systems that isn’t a problem, case in point, my wife likes to work in photoshop, corel draw, and illustrator all at the same time when working on a project both of the Adobe programs are resource hogs and while Corel isn’t as demanding it isn’t a slouch either.

While running any one of these programs by itself 8g is more than adequate, open all three and try to get anything productive done is frustrating to say the least, granted there are more factors here than just memory pool size, allocation, and usage, graphics program need well really good graphics, quick hard drives (for scratch disks), lots of processing power and a large memory pool, she does do some 3D rendering in Maya which is probably the most intense app she runs which they only recommend 8g of ram also, but open it along side the other products all running at the same time …..well in a 8g system it isn’t pretty or productive unless you like waiting.

Bottom line….I like to play GW2, so much so that I have ran Premier rendering video to Encore and let Encore author a DVD while playing GW2 which stresses my system I don’t believe I could have the processes running in the background, render video and play GW2 on a 8g system without problems but I’ve never tried it either.

As you say RAM is one of the cheapest upgrades you can add to a computer not as cheap as a just a year ago but still if your building for the future (which we all do) why not add in capacity that may not be used today but when Win9 comes out and can address 128g of RAM (hypothetical) you’ll be ahead of the game, everyone who builds there own PC has a goal or objective in mind, software they know they will be running but the demands of future software are an unknown so if you build, built the biggest and baddest PC you can comfortably afford but don’t scrimp on the power supply.

You definitely need SSD in there,it’s so much better.Just get a 128GB one for windows and heavy games/apps,i’d recommend a samsung 840.

question for all of you who are running Windows 8… does this game actually run smoothly on Windows 8? I heard that because Windows 8 is so similar to an App based system such as Android and the iPhone OS, that it may not be compatible with a game such as Guild Wars 2. Is this true or is there a way to get Windows 8 to run Guild Wars 2? I ask because I would very much like to get an upgraded Computer that runs Windows 8, but not if it means I can’t run this game or another game of my choosing because of incompatibility issues with the OS.

Blanger.3162:

Cush.4063:

Corpus Christi.2057:

People still didn’t get it that, unless they’re working on some ultra-new virtual graphic generators ( used by e.g. architects ), they will not need 16 gb of RAM in the nearest future ( a couple of years at least ).

It amazes me, really…

That was the point of building this computer. To make it extremely powerful and to future proof it for a good amount of time. Is there something wrong with that? Especially when ram is one of the cheapest things on the rig.

Cush…

In the old days MBs and OSs could not address or access memory above a certain limit, in today’s world of multi-tasking, multi-threading, multi-core multi-virtuial machine systems that isn’t a problem, case in point, my wife likes to work in photoshop, corel draw, and illustrator all at the same time when working on a project both of the Adobe programs are resource hogs and while Corel isn’t as demanding it isn’t a slouch either.

While running any one of these programs by itself 8g is more than adequate, open all three and try to get anything productive done is frustrating to say the least, granted there are more factors here than just memory pool size, allocation, and usage, graphics program need well really good graphics, quick hard drives (for scratch disks), lots of processing power and a large memory pool, she does do some 3D rendering in Maya which is probably the most intense app she runs which they only recommend 8g of ram also, but open it along side the other products all running at the same time …..well in a 8g system it isn’t pretty or productive unless you like waiting.

Bottom line….I like to play GW2, so much so that I have ran Premier rendering video to Encore and let Encore author a DVD while playing GW2 which stresses my system I don’t believe I could have the processes running in the background, render video and play GW2 on a 8g system without problems but I’ve never tried it either.

As you say RAM is one of the cheapest upgrades you can add to a computer not as cheap as a just a year ago but still if your building for the future (which we all do) why not add in capacity that may not be used today but when Win9 comes out and can address 128g of RAM (hypothetical) you’ll be ahead of the game, everyone who builds there own PC has a goal or objective in mind, software they know they will be running but the demands of future software are an unknown so if you build, built the biggest and baddest PC you can comfortably afford but don’t scrimp on the power supply.

Agreed haha. The reason I only have a 700w power supply was not intentional. I had planned for a much more powerful one in the high dollar range but the reason it came down to this one was because I had just received my first part to my rig (my GPU) and I really wanted to put it in my fathers kittenty PC as he was running with an integraded HD graphics card, old gigabyte mobo, 4gb ram, 300w power supply, etc. You get the picture. I wanted to finally play a game with a better frame rate on a higher graphic setting than very low.

So, that high dollar power supply that I wanted kinda went out the window at that point because I wanted better fps and graphics now. Not later, now :p. So instead of saving up an extra $100 and ordering online I ran over to PC Brokers and got a power supply that was 100w over the minimum for my GPU which barely, and I mean barely by like one more millimeter the GPU wouldn’t fit barely, got it fit into my fathers kittenty PC haha. This has held me over until I finish purchasing everything here shortly.

Now this doesn’t mean I won’t be upgrading my power supply but like I said, I want to complete my rig now and play it now, so I’m definitely not going to purchase the power supply next or before I put all the pieces together and play some games on it but it probably will be one of the first things I purchase once I have it together.

Cush

An Siorai Tharian.4516:

question for all of you who are running Windows 8… does this game actually run smoothly on Windows 8? I heard that because Windows 8 is so similar to an App based system such as Android and the iPhone OS, that it may not be compatible with a game such as Guild Wars 2. Is this true or is there a way to get Windows 8 to run Guild Wars 2? I ask because I would very much like to get an upgraded Computer that runs Windows 8, but not if it means I can’t run this game or another game of my choosing because of incompatibility issues with the OS.

Windows 8 is completely fine for gaming. This isn’t Vista Check this link out, I kinda have this opinion.
http://gizmodo.com/5937590/youre-being-lied-to-windows-8-isnt-bad-for-gaming

Windows 8.1
I7 6-core (#??) @ 4.325 Ghz
32GB @ 2.333 GHz (should fix this)
256GB Raid0 SSD (two cards)
TWO nVidia GTX770 4GB (SLI)
1500W PS

1. Windows 8.1 runs MUCH faster with GW2 than Win7 did
2. SLI on/off makes a big difference – GW2 does make use of your video card
3. GW2 uses all CPU cores, it is a multithreaded app

There is so much hearsay and outright incorrect statements about the game architecture and OS.

Graphics settings:
nVidia GW2 profile (make sure SLI is on)
Start max everything, go through each, don’t go by the best drop down setting.
1. Camera shake off
2. Super sampling ON
3. Environment ULTRA
4. Shadows -> medium to off to your taste, this has a huge impact in performance

Essentially shadows is all I will adjust to perk up the frame rate on a heavily populated map, when the frame rate goes below 30.

Usually 50+ FPS peak 120 FPS.

Running on a fifty five inch 1080p @ 60Hz

If I turn on frame rate limiting (to 60), the jet plane fans calm down but I will get some horizontal image warping when moving the camera around a lot.

Allisa Wonderland.8192:

Windows 8.1
I7 6-core (#??) @ 4.325 Ghz
32GB @ 2.333 GHz (should fix this)
256GB Raid0 SSD (two cards)
TWO nVidia GTX770 4GB (SLI)
1500W PS

1. Windows 8.1 runs MUCH faster with GW2 than Win7 did
2. SLI on/off makes a big difference – GW2 does make use of your video card
3. GW2 uses all CPU cores, it is a multithreaded app

There is so much hearsay and outright incorrect statements about the game architecture and OS.

Graphics settings:
nVidia GW2 profile (make sure SLI is on)
Start max everything, go through each, don’t go by the best drop down setting.
1. Camera shake off
2. Super sampling ON
3. Environment ULTRA
4. Shadows -> medium to off to your taste, this has a huge impact in performance

Essentially shadows is all I will adjust to perk up the frame rate on a heavily populated map, when the frame rate goes below 30.

Usually 50+ FPS peak 120 FPS.

Running on a fifty five inch 1080p @ 60Hz

If I turn on frame rate limiting (to 60), the jet plane fans calm down but I will get some horizontal image warping when moving the camera around a lot.

You’re running two 4gb 770’s? So 8gb total? If so, that’s a little excessive haha. I have heard of a lot of problems with people running sli though. One card is really your best option from what I’ve heard. Correct me if I’m wrong but ive heard of micro stuttering and all sorts of stuff when it comes to using sli for two cards. That’s the main reason why I didn’t purchase a second 770 2gb which I was originally going to.

I had an SLi system and it wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. SLi and Crossfire, while touted as “ultra gaming” hardware isn’t all that great tbh. Many games refuse to run correctly in SLi / CF modes, additional profile data is often required, the actual performance gains are lower than you would expect and its bloody expensive. I cant remember off the top of my head but iirc its something like per card extra its is only a 1.5x increase in performance (rather than the 2x you would expect from 2 cards).

The smart money is on one high-end card.

Lexandro.1456:

I had an SLi system and it wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. SLi and Crossfire, while touted as “ultra gaming” hardware isn’t all that great tbh. Many games refuse to run correctly in SLi / CF modes, additional profile data is often required, the actual performance gains are lower than you would expect and its bloody expensive. I cant remember off the top of my head but iirc its something like per card extra its is only a 1.5x increase in performance (rather than the 2x you would expect from 2 cards).

The smart money is on one high-end card.

The idea is too buy the High End card and in a few years when you are looking for a cheap performance boost buy the same card for 1/3 (or less of the price) and go SLI/Crossfire.

But its not as cheap a boost though, because you need a PSU to handle two cards and those don’t come that cheap for a quality one. So you can easily end up spending the price of a newer more powerful card just on the second older model card and a psu to handle them both.

Its smarter to just get a newer card, and sell on the old one if possible.

Fyi when you SLI/CF two cards they only use the total memory of one card.

Also Lexandro,normally you anticipate if you are gonna SLI/CF or not so you pick up a PSU that gives you the headroom,which costs you like 30$ extra.

All that said SLI/CF can be funky in different games,but if all works properly you normally get a 1,8x performance(depends on the GPU though),some games that are optimized for it can actually achieve 95-100% increase,but it’s a gamble and probably, 50% of the cases you’ll be running single-GPU to get rid of issues that can occur.

On another note though,don’t go above 2-way SLI/CF since you just start getting diminishing returns

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Built last year. Run the game at 2560×1440 without any problems and solid frame rate. Very modestly overclocked.

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Blanger.3162:

Cush.4063:

Corpus Christi.2057:

People still didn’t get it that, unless they’re working on some ultra-new virtual graphic generators ( used by e.g. architects ), they will not need 16 gb of RAM in the nearest future ( a couple of years at least ).

It amazes me, really…

That was the point of building this computer. To make it extremely powerful and to future proof it for a good amount of time. Is there something wrong with that? Especially when ram is one of the cheapest things on the rig.

Cush…

In the old days MBs and OSs could not address or access memory above a certain limit, in today’s world of multi-tasking, multi-threading, multi-core multi-virtuial machine systems that isn’t a problem, case in point, my wife likes to work in photoshop, corel draw, and illustrator all at the same time when working on a project both of the Adobe programs are resource hogs and while Corel isn’t as demanding it isn’t a slouch either.

While running any one of these programs by itself 8g is more than adequate, open all three and try to get anything productive done is frustrating to say the least, granted there are more factors here than just memory pool size, allocation, and usage, graphics program need well really good graphics, quick hard drives (for scratch disks), lots of processing power and a large memory pool, she does do some 3D rendering in Maya which is probably the most intense app she runs which they only recommend 8g of ram also, but open it along side the other products all running at the same time …..well in a 8g system it isn’t pretty or productive unless you like waiting.

Bottom line….I like to play GW2, so much so that I have ran Premier rendering video to Encore and let Encore author a DVD while playing GW2 which stresses my system I don’t believe I could have the processes running in the background, render video and play GW2 on a 8g system without problems but I’ve never tried it either.

As you say RAM is one of the cheapest upgrades you can add to a computer not as cheap as a just a year ago but still if your building for the future (which we all do) why not add in capacity that may not be used today but when Win9 comes out and can address 128g of RAM (hypothetical) you’ll be ahead of the game, everyone who builds there own PC has a goal or objective in mind, software they know they will be running but the demands of future software are an unknown so if you build, built the biggest and baddest PC you can comfortably afford but don’t scrimp on the power supply.

one core can still use 4GB RAM maximum. You would know if you studied computer architecture. Its because the length of an instruction in the instruction set.

Cush.4063:

So, that high dollar power supply that I wanted kinda went out the window at that point because I wanted better fps and graphics now. Not later, now :p. So instead of saving up an extra $100 and ordering online I ran over to PC Brokers and got a power supply that was 100w over the minimum for my GPU which barely, and I mean barely by like one more millimeter the GPU wouldn’t fit barely, got it fit into my fathers kittenty PC haha. This has held me over until I finish purchasing everything here shortly.

Now this doesn’t mean I won’t be upgrading my power supply but like I said, I want to complete my rig now and play it now, so I’m definitely not going to purchase the power supply next or before I put all the pieces together and play some games on it but it probably will be one of the first things I purchase once I have it together.

Cush

Understandable…. something every system builder should have is a watt meter like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001 small in cost but long in value testing the wattage draw of a new PC, it’ll give you a idea before any damage is done if your PS is of sufficient capacity to not only power your GPU but the MB/CPU combo along with the cooler, case fans and everything else the PS is running. In today’s world of 100w+ CPU’s figuring your total wattage demand inside the case is very important IMHO.

Light.7493:

one core can still use 4GB RAM maximum. You would know if you studied computer architecture. Its because the length of an instruction in the instruction set.

Thank you Sir…. I have only a layman’s knowledge of CPU architecture and being old I’ve forgotten a lot about how data flows and instructions are processed, but for a quad core processor it would seem 16g of memory would be max that could be accessed and the newer 8 core CPUs would be 32g is this correct? One other question if you don’t mind in the new 4 channel MBs does that change it would seem that it would not but only provide a wider path.

TIA

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Cush.4063:

You’re running two 4gb 770’s? So 8gb total? If so, that’s a little excessive haha. I have heard of a lot of problems with people running sli though. One card is really your best option from what I’ve heard. Correct me if I’m wrong but ive heard of micro stuttering and all sorts of stuff when it comes to using sli for two cards. That’s the main reason why I didn’t purchase a second 770 2gb which I was originally going to.

It doesn’t work that way. Running SLI with 2 4gb cards doesn’t double up to 8gb. It’s limited to 4gb.