What's with the traits?

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Posted by: Weylin.6478

Weylin.6478

I understand that 1 equals the original 5.
What I DONT understand is why it doesn’t give a trait point every 5 levels starting at 15.

Why does it give points at all these odd levels, and double the points at higher levels? It’s not like leveling gets harder, it’s a pretty linear progression compared to many other MMOs that would make 79-80 a several week endeavor.

Originally you would get your first point at 11, and while it didn’t help much but you would unlock your first minor at 15.

Why don’t you just award one trait point every 5 levels, and unlock the master and grand master tiers at the appropriate levels?

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Posted by: CrashTestAuto.9108

CrashTestAuto.9108

This baffled me when they announced it, and it baffles me now. For no obvious reason the levelling system is now more confusing (the doubles), less interesting at lower levels (the higher level for first trait), and worse for learning a class (the lock on grandmaster traits preventing experimentation before you get to 80 and shop for gear).

I love this update, but I am completely lost as to why this was done. One point every five levels starting at fifteen was the obvious thing to do, and basically already implemented, so it required actually going out of someone’s way to make the system worse :S

I’m sure there must have been a reason, but I have no clue what it was. Plenty of people argued against this before the update went live.

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Posted by: WaveyDL.6945

WaveyDL.6945

I can’t understand why they nerfed new players. I mean they want new players right? New players = new sources of cash right?

I can only figure they are planning to make money from it some how!

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Posted by: Weylin.6478

Weylin.6478

It would be a lot more intuitive if they just give one every 5 levels, at least then each trait point is more meaningful, even though they’re further apart.

This change is basically nerfing newer players and I have no idea why they would do this.

In terms of WvW this just screws up-leveled players even further, it just doesn’t make any sense.

I’d like to know what the logic is behind this.

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Posted by: phys.7689

phys.7689

I understand that 1 equals the original 5.
What I DONT understand is why it doesn’t give a trait point every 5 levels starting at 15.

Why does it give points at all these odd levels, and double the points at higher levels? It’s not like leveling gets harder, it’s a pretty linear progression compared to many other MMOs that would make 79-80 a several week endeavor.

Originally you would get your first point at 11, and while it didn’t help much but you would unlock your first minor at 15.

Why don’t you just award one trait point every 5 levels, and unlock the master and grand master tiers at the appropriate levels?

I ll tell you why they made the change.
Some new players felt they didnt have enough to look foward to as they leveled.
China release made them rethink the game, and they wanted to make this system similar to what they have there.

Overall its a fail imo. Traits were better integrated before. level 10-30 will feel boring as hell now. Traits were the main way you improve your chosen builds. So for about 25 levels, people will have no way to get better at the playstyle they are trying to build. This will be a lot worse on some classes than others, who depend on trait interactions for interesting gameplay.

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Posted by: Weylin.6478

Weylin.6478

What people have to look forward to at later levels are more powerful traits, and I’m afraid I don’t know what china is used to specifically and why making the early start more annoying is a good thing.

I know they adjusted mobs, but it just feels like there’s such a long time to go before you get your first traits.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

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My guess: they’ll be selling those Level-to-20-instantly scrolls soon in the gemstore.

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Posted by: Katsuki.1674

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My guess: they’ll be selling those Level-to-20-instantly scrolls soon in the gemstore.

Oh my Melandru, now everything suddenly makes sense.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

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My guess: they’ll be selling those Level-to-20-instantly scrolls soon in the gemstore.

Level to 20 instantly still doesn’t do much, no trait points. It doesn’t take long to level to 20 anyway.

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Posted by: Weylin.6478

Weylin.6478

That does make sense… if they sell the level 20 scrolls, then you only need to go 10 levels before you get your first traits, which is comparable to getting your first trait point at level 11.

You really think they’re going to do this? Start selling lvl 20 scrolls?

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Posted by: Moderator.6437

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Hey there, since we are getting a lot of feedback on this topic right now, we are collecting it all in dedicated threads. You are very welcome to repost your questions comments and concerns here “https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Game-Updates-Traits