Guild Wars 2

I’ve been checking around for new things to do, but there is nothing?
When does the rest of the content arrive? Why’s it taking so long?

It’s a LIVING STORY… an ongoing, developing, evolving story arc that is going to take place over months, as is spelled out pretty clearly in this blog post: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-living-story-in-guild-wars-2/

Yeah, living story, got that. Been helping refuges for days. Time to move on dont you think?

toxianguardian.4850:

Yeah, living story, got that. Been helping refuges for days. Time to move on dont you think?

This isn’t an event like Lost Shores or the holiday events… this is essentially an evolving expansion, with new things to discover being added slowly. It’s an arcing story line designed to go on for months. Not a bunch of brief content meant for you to get through in a few days. I think the blog post I linked to explains it quite well… what is so difficult to understand? This isn’t the type of new content that’s going to be flooded in over a couple of days.

This isn’t an event like Lost Shores or the holiday events… this is essentially an evolving expansion, with new things to discover being added slowly. It’s an arcing story line designed to go on for months. Not a bunch of brief content meant for you to get through in a few days. I think the blog post I linked to explains it quite well… what is so difficult to understand? This isn’t the type of new content that’s going to be flooded in over a couple of days.

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So expansion was just a fluff word then? I’m confused. I read this as Flame and Frost: Prelude, an event type thing that would go on for a week or so before getting past the prelude, not one or two events that simply repeat.

Not very pleased with this content then, stretching an event out over months and calling it an expansion is boggling to me.

Lost shores event: few days

Halloween event: little longer

Wintersday event: more content stretched out over long period of time.

Flame and frost: Prelude: Couple events stretched out over months, if i understand you right.

Just seems like they are taking the content they have and are bloating it up more and more…

They have to give everyone time to participate. A lot of people got left out of the Karka Event, and they said they wouldn’t want that to happen again.

Not just all that but its also just a prolude an introduction if you will. And we know for a fact that this is only the smallst of the upcomeing content patchs

UnderdogSMO.9428:

Not just all that but its also just a prolude an introduction if you will. And we know for a fact that this is only the smallst of the upcomeing content patchs

If these two events are the ‘smallest’ of the content to come, i fear to see what they call the biggest

After running 4 alts to 80 and fully gearing them, seeing all the different stories and doing all the dungeons enough to make my brain cry from boredom to get my armor,

I want more than two events. Give people time to do them, sure! Keep the two events running while giving the rest of us more stuff or something. I dont see them removing the personal story now that all of us have done it. Don’t see the big deal here.

Patience, grasshopper.

I think it’s really cool that this is intended to continue to play out over time. I understand wanting to see what’s next RIGHT NOW, but I can go off and do other things in the meantime. I think it’s good that there is time given for lots of players to experience the unfolding.

Edited to add: And the personal story is instanced. It can start over for each new character. The Living Story is taking place in the world. Those refugees need time to heal and then maybe they’ll share more about what happened to them.

Jinx.7945:

Patience, grasshopper.

I think it’s really cool that this is intended to continue to play out over time. I understand wanting to see what’s next RIGHT NOW, but I can go off and do other things in the meantime. I think it’s good that there is time given for lots of players to experience the unfolding.

Thats the point of releasing content in my opinion, stuff i can do now.
Out of this major event/proloque/story, I’ve gotten a laurel i can get once per day(lol), and two events. It’s nice to be able to run off and do other things, but short of farming fractals for yellows, there’s just nothing left for me, and those like me, to do, you know? It’s like they are pushing off there more serious players for the ones that cant log in for a week to do the events. Hint: People who spend more time in game usually spend more money in the game. I know its not their intent to run the money off, but with nothing else for us to do, i’ll prolly end up on another game.

Its not all about ‘letting everyone participate’! This is an unfolding story and the very first part involves helping the refugees flee from SOMETHING. What that something is remains a mystery but there are more and more refugees flowing into Hoelbrak and BC each day.

This event is a story and as such is a brand new type of event. I think having an indefinite pause between ‘chapters’ is an exciting way to introduce a major event happening ‘later in the book’. I love the idea because even though the first chapter wasnt majorly interesting it has set the tone for the rest of the event. Something big is about to happen and no one knows what!

Edit: (In response) Im a serious player and I play the game less than I did a month or so ago. I am, however, just as interested in the game as I ever was. If I get bored with something like the Fractals I dont do them and I go play something else. That is how this game has been designed. Im not 100% happy with GW2 but happy enough to keep faith.

Thereon.3495:

Its not all about ‘letting everyone participate’! This is an unfolding story and the very first part involves helping the refugees flee from SOMETHING. What that something is remains a mystery but there are more and more refugees flowing into Hoelbrak and BC each day.

This event is a story and as such is a brand new type of event. I think having an indefinite pause between ‘chapters’ is an exciting way to introduce a major event happening ‘later in the book’. I love the idea because even though the first chapter wasnt majorly interesting it has set the tone for the rest of the event. Something big is about to happen and no one knows what!

What is brand new about this event exactly? We have a continuing story, just like all expansions that are…you know, expansions. With a full storyline taking you from one end to the other at your own pace.

This to me is a step back, as i now have to curtail my gaming habits to better fit in those who dont do things at my pace? I thought we played this game as we wanted?
Doesnt seem to be going that way.

Im pretty sure im coming across as negative, and i feel very negative about it, sure, but i like this game, and want it to succeed. Going this route doesnt look like the route to success to me.

Before we were told what was coming and when it would happen which was over the course of a few days (Karka event). Now we have a progressing mystery event with Heralds giving clues, weird children sending us drawings, refugees appearing and some just dying on the way to safety. The suspense is new and a larger timescale is needed to build that suspense.

As for the ‘expansions worth of content’ everyone is referring to please dont just shorten it to ‘expansion’ because theyre two very different things. What was meant was that a huge amount of changes and activities would be introduced over the next three months. January is the smallest of these three large patches and if you saw the release notes it was still a huge patch. Dont forget patch content = balances and fixes as well, not just new events and items (which we still got!).

toxianguardian.4850:

Yeah, living story, got that. Been helping refuges for days. Time to move on dont you think?

Does life move on when you want it to? No. It moves when it kitten well pleases.

Same principle, except in this case, ANet is our almighty God.

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I, for one, enjoy the fact the important events aren’t happening on a schedule, especially since that schedule was always a one-time-deal that opened up to a repetitive routine of running through instances of unrelated activities.

The idea of a slowly progressing active open world plot is much more entertaining.

toxianguardian.4850:

Thereon.3495:

Its not all about ‘letting everyone participate’! This is an unfolding story and the very first part involves helping the refugees flee from SOMETHING. What that something is remains a mystery but there are more and more refugees flowing into Hoelbrak and BC each day.

This event is a story and as such is a brand new type of event. I think having an indefinite pause between ‘chapters’ is an exciting way to introduce a major event happening ‘later in the book’. I love the idea because even though the first chapter wasnt majorly interesting it has set the tone for the rest of the event. Something big is about to happen and no one knows what!

What is brand new about this event exactly? We have a continuing story, just like all expansions that are…you know, expansions. With a full storyline taking you from one end to the other at your own pace.

This to me is a step back, as i now have to curtail my gaming habits to better fit in those who dont do things at my pace? I thought we played this game as we wanted?
Doesnt seem to be going that way.

Im pretty sure im coming across as negative, and i feel very negative about it, sure, but i like this game, and want it to succeed. Going this route doesnt look like the route to success to me.

This would only be a relavent argument if they wernt also developing expantions as well as this content

DreamOfACure.4382:

toxianguardian.4850:

Yeah, living story, got that. Been helping refuges for days. Time to move on dont you think?

Does life move on when you want it to? No. It moves when it kitten well pleases.

Same principle, except in this case, ANet is our almighty God.

Life is not a video game. i go to video games to get away from the hassles of real life(IE: waiting)

ANET is no one’s God either. I have 3 other games sitting on my hardrive, that i’ve been holding off on since i enjoy gw2 so much. I dont find myself enjoying these new changes, so will likely head to one of those. Coming from me, a fairly commited fellow(and officer of a 490 man guild), i’d call that a red flag.

UnderdogSMO.9428:

toxianguardian.4850:

Thereon.3495:

Its not all about ‘letting everyone participate’! This is an unfolding story and the very first part involves helping the refugees flee from SOMETHING. What that something is remains a mystery but there are more and more refugees flowing into Hoelbrak and BC each day.

This event is a story and as such is a brand new type of event. I think having an indefinite pause between ‘chapters’ is an exciting way to introduce a major event happening ‘later in the book’. I love the idea because even though the first chapter wasnt majorly interesting it has set the tone for the rest of the event. Something big is about to happen and no one knows what!

What is brand new about this event exactly? We have a continuing story, just like all expansions that are…you know, expansions. With a full storyline taking you from one end to the other at your own pace.

This to me is a step back, as i now have to curtail my gaming habits to better fit in those who dont do things at my pace? I thought we played this game as we wanted?
Doesnt seem to be going that way.

Im pretty sure im coming across as negative, and i feel very negative about it, sure, but i like this game, and want it to succeed. Going this route doesnt look like the route to success to me.

This would only be a relavent argument if they wernt also developing expantions as well as this content

MMO’s are always developing new content. Your point lacks substance in my eyes.

toxianguardian.4850:

Life is not a video game. i go to video games to get away from the hassles of real life(IE: waiting)

Oh… There are so many philosophers could write entire essays and papers to refute you.

But I’ll just attach a comic at the bottom of my post instead.

ANET is no one’s God either.

ANet is the God of the GW2 universe.
They created it, and hold control over all its physics, cause and effect principles, etc..

AND they are choosing to make the game act more like life, in that events unfold gradually over time.

Check and Mate.

You, sir, need to improve your metaphorical insight.

DreamOfACure.4382:

toxianguardian.4850:

Life is not a video game. i go to video games to get away from the hassles of real life(IE: waiting)

Oh… There are so many philosophers could write entire essays and papers to refute you.

ANET is no one’s God either.

ANet is the God of the GW2 universe.

Check and Mate.

Yeah, no, ANET is no one’s God. Anet is offering something fun in return for some money. If you think for one second things wont change once the money flow starts changing, and can’t see that happening already, well, you keep preaching to your ‘god’ then. -smh-

As a paying customer, i am displeased. We’ll just have to see how many more share my views. In either case, my days in gw2 seem to be numbered. sad.

Fletch.3572:

They way over hyped this patch for what it is(even after they jumped in and stated they overstated with an expacs worth of content), which is basically going to amount standard monthly release quests/content.

The only thing saving face right now is PRELUDE being driven down our throats. What we pretty much ended up with was some quality of life fixes that were needed for months now, such as fractal disconnects, and a major tweak to orr.

The rest of this “expanion” will be delivered months down the road. Wait what? Yeah standard monthly patches that’s been done in mmo’s for many years.

Glad i’m not the only one seeing things in this way.

toxianguardian.4850:

Yeah, no, ANET is no one’s God. Anet is offering something fun in return for some money. If you think for one second things wont change once the money flow starts changing, and can’t see that happening already, well, you keep preaching to your ‘god’ then. -smh-

You clearly have no understanding of the metaphorical.

You should find a different game. This one won’t please those who can’t grasp metaphors. :P

DreamOfACure.4382:

toxianguardian.4850:

Yeah, no, ANET is no one’s God. Anet is offering something fun in return for some money. If you think for one second things wont change once the money flow starts changing, and can’t see that happening already, well, you keep preaching to your ‘god’ then. -smh-

You clearly have no understanding of the metaphorical.

You should find a different game. This one won’t please those who can’t grasp metaphors. :P

I dont have to look. I have more games ready. I wanted an MMO that’d last me for years like FFXI did. I’m hoping GW2 will be that game. You, and everyone else who wants to spout ‘just play another game’ changes nothing, i promise ANET wants my account and the money it generates between me and my wife. They want me to be good and pay, i want them to be good and deliver. This thread is about that, and your ‘metaphors’ or whatever dont contribute to the discussion.

The devs did mention that this is merely a teaser to the living story. It gives players with little brain power chance to understand the idea behind the content….

Im gonna go out on a limb and say that more events and living story achievements will be layered on top before the next monthly update. You can still ‘start from the beginning’ of the content until an ‘evolution’ point where the next stage in the living story unfolds.

Atm its two zones with heart like tasks and new dynamic content. Back a while ago i read a developer talking about how easy it is to add new DEs upon existing ones, this means the prelude could still grow until the actual big content comes in. I expect dungeons and alot of DE content to come in this way.

Patience is a virtue.

dont think DE and story mix in this game..
those few lines that comes out of npcs.. i found it… really really really really uninteresting and would be better off to skip them all together!!
I really love storytelling in a game.!
…just not so much in this game..

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

The devs did mention that this is merely a teaser to the living story. It gives players with little brain power chance to understand the idea behind the content….

Im gonna go out on a limb and say that more events and living story achievements will be layered on top before the next monthly update. You can still ‘start from the beginning’ of the content until an ‘evolution’ point where the next stage in the living story unfolds.

Atm its two zones with heart like tasks and new dynamic content. Back a while ago i read a developer talking about how easy it is to add new DEs upon existing ones, this means the prelude could still grow until the actual big content comes in. I expect dungeons and alot of DE content to come in this way.

Patience is a virtue.

See, that’s what i want. Give me more dynamic events, more dungeons, even more fractal levels to grind. Dont announce a big ole expansions worth of content and then give me two events and much needed bug tweaking and call that an expansion. If your ideas are on the money about more content to come, then i’ll be a happy camper.

Stop trying to please everyone with some new ‘groundbreaking’ story telling techniques and sell me an expansion with everything in one. There’s a reason that works for other games so well.

toxianguardian.4850:

See, that’s what i want. Give me more dynamic events, more dungeons, even more fractal levels to grind. Dont announce a big ole expansions worth of content and then give me two events and much needed bug tweaking and call that an expansion. If your ideas are on the money about more content to come, then i’ll be a happy camper.

Stop trying to please everyone with some new ‘groundbreaking’ story telling techniques and sell me an expansion with everything in one. There’s a reason that works for other games so well.

Also, at the risk of defending anet too much, we must remember they did say that between jan and febs main patches will be an expansions worth that means if they are being true to their word;

1. Febs patch will contain a kitten load of new features and content.
OR
2. Febs patch will contain new features and tweaks while content is rolled out each week prior in smaller patches, layering upon the living story and hyping up the actual frost and flame narrative.

Of course this is all guess work but the theory would be most logical and Anet should consider something like this.

Small content patches arnt that hard to develop. The way DEs are designed itd be simple to introduce new small DEs on a quicker time frame, and would definitely give the impression that they are giving players content quicker than any other mmo on the market.

PS. Just wanted to add, Anet please dont make me eat my own words. I don’t think i can handle anymore of your living world promises fail flat on its face again.

Who said it was only going to be 2 events? And that we wouldn’t seem more of what your asking for. Not to mention we also go the scalling revamped. Vastly revamped and improved towers, and made improvments to dungeons

Its clearly drunk at a Norn moot

toxianguardian.4850:

Jinx.7945:

Patience, grasshopper.

I think it’s really cool that this is intended to continue to play out over time. I understand wanting to see what’s next RIGHT NOW, but I can go off and do other things in the meantime. I think it’s good that there is time given for lots of players to experience the unfolding.

Thats the point of releasing content in my opinion, stuff i can do now.
Out of this major event/proloque/story, I’ve gotten a laurel i can get once per day(lol), and two events. It’s nice to be able to run off and do other things, but short of farming fractals for yellows, there’s just nothing left for me, and those like me, to do, you know? It’s like they are pushing off there more serious players for the ones that cant log in for a week to do the events. Hint: People who spend more time in game usually spend more money in the game. I know its not their intent to run the money off, but with nothing else for us to do, i’ll prolly end up on another game.

Typical of any new MMO… MMO launches, players rush to try and get to the end of the rainbow, only to realise MMO content does’nt keep up with there mile a minute expextations, player whines on forums that lack of content is killing the game, player makes statement on forums that he/she will leave if more content does’nt get pushed through NOW!.

Oh then next content batch lands, player burns through content, player lights up forum with whines that new content is bugged and not tested properly………. rinse and repeat scenario’s over and over till MMO shuts down servers for good or the END of WORLD Mayan theory comes to fruition….

toxianguardian.4850:

DreamOfACure.4382:

toxianguardian.4850:

Yeah, no, ANET is no one’s God. Anet is offering something fun in return for some money. If you think for one second things wont change once the money flow starts changing, and can’t see that happening already, well, you keep preaching to your ‘god’ then. -smh-

You clearly have no understanding of the metaphorical.

You should find a different game. This one won’t please those who can’t grasp metaphors. :P

I dont have to look. I have more games ready. I wanted an MMO that’d last me for years like FFXI did. I’m hoping GW2 will be that game. You, and everyone else who wants to spout ‘just play another game’ changes nothing, i promise ANET wants my account and the money it generates between me and my wife. They want me to be good and pay, i want them to be good and deliver. This thread is about that, and your ‘metaphors’ or whatever dont contribute to the discussion.

Actually I disagree.. you seem to lack the ability to understand what is actually being thrown back at your argument, therfore you plain disagree and everyone else is wrong and your right…. that is why you will never be settled in an evolving game.
Living story means for it to run as part of your toons life through Tyria… unfoirtunately life does not happen all at once and often stalls, meanders then picks up pace again.
You keep making note of your of paying customer status.. from this I deem that you are quite happy to throw coin at the game to maybe accelerate your growth within Tyria. If this is the case (and each to their own, I agree) then no amount of content or speed of release will likely satisfy your playstyle. But in that you are actually the one that’s being played along, not others that disagree with your notions. You are the ideal ANET customer, hooked in and hungry to burn thro it, spend coin readily in doing so, then whine when the pace dies off a whiles… as a F2P model you are what keeps ANET ticking the most, so enjoy your moment in the forum suns.

toxianguardian.4850:

I’ve been checking around for new things to do, but there is nothing?
When does the rest of the content arrive? Why’s it taking so long?

Anet said they would take everything we love about GW1…..they didn’t
Anet said that or characters needed to be heroic, so it would be “my story”…..it isn’t. It’s Trahearne’s story.
Anet said they were against grind. That they don’t make grindy games….It is a grindy game cause if you want something cool, you must grind
Anet spoke of living story….

Another slogan with little actual content in my view.

People will all have their own opinions and this is mine: GW2 is superficial. There are legendary weapons but they are only legendary because they are called legendary. They aren’t actually legendary at all. The combat system is flat. It looks cool at first but misses depth. The stories are flat etc. GW2 is shiny but without real meaning in its stories and atmosphere.

From my experience the current Anet uses very different definitions than I do for many things. That’s the nice way of putting it.

It may be slow, but it is there. Just like they said! No-one said an ‘expansion worth of content in January’ alone. The whole development , into March, is supposed to provide that; and a prelude is precisely what it says…a teaser, a snippet to grab your interest.
Do not look for an expansion, as in a totally new and completely separate section of the game. From what has been said, I concluded (important to note that this is my interpretation), that the total content being added to GW2 would be equivalent to an expansion in it’s amount; BUT that it will mainly be put into the existing world, not have a new sector of the world created for it.
What I hope is that it will provide at least 1 new area designed for level 80 play, with DE chains that rely on player interaction and open up the area progressively. Almost like the ‘front line’ of a major war, which goes back and forth dependent on who is currently winning. (sorry wandering off-topic there).