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Posted by: Arden.7480

Arden.7480

I am amazed, because of new story. I could see a lot of surprises and good battles.


But I could see that there is something wrong with the Commander’s opinions. Since HoT, Caithe is treated like a trash. I can see a lot of hate. I know that many players don’t like her, but she was the part of Destiny’s Edge, she is the hero. Yes, I know that she took the Egg, but she wanted show her loyalty, she wanted repair her bad future (when she killed Wynne, she trusted Faolain). She did great work, but the Commander non-stop doesn’t like her, doesn’t trust her. I show to you some proofs:

Heart of Thorns- Bitter Harvest- “If you cross me again, I’ll personally send you to the Mists.”

Ls3 part 1- Shadow’s Deeds- Commander has not respect to anybody:
“Caithe: Commander, before we go any further, I want to clear the air between us.
<Commander>: Here…? Why would I expect any different; your timing has always been perfect…”-sarcastic and rude.

Ls3 part 2- First thing when the Commander saw Caithe, she said words something like this: “oh, Marjory and… Caithe.” This is not funny, but weird. Like: “ohhh Jory!!! I love You, you are here?! Oh my sweet pie, dear friend. What’s up? <333” And then the Commander looks at Caithe and: “Ohhh Caithe….. You again?! Go away!… You are blocking me the view of Jory!”

And in the end of Dragon Vigil- after battle with destroyers, the Commander talked with Caithe about who could take care of Aurene and then: “So. Could you as Taimi to get here right away?” It was rude much more than other of my proofs. It was very not right.

So my suggestion is that everybody could choose what the Commander have to say, but it won’t change everything. I cannot look when the Commander hurts her very often.

If ANet wants kick her off from GW2 like Trahearne and stoke up the hate, it could be very bad sign, like if players don’t like a character, we will write him/her rude dialogue and we will make a character dead…

I really like Caithe, and I don’t want listen too much hate. I want have a chance to change dialogue, make different decisions, like in Personal Story, I could choose ways I want go. Or just stop write a lot of rude dialogues against Caithe. Or please write the same amount of Canach’, Taimi’ or Rytlock’ dialogues.

I have nothing to the HoT Story and I know what Caithe did in LS2, but this is in the past and I cannot understand why, the Commander still doesn’t like her or doesn’t respect like others at least. The Commander should listen everybody and should not exalt or debase.

Aurene needs a good mentor, and the Commander doesn’t fit to be a mentor. The Commander is very distrustful and doesn’t treat everyone alike.

If it could be possible, the next victim after the dragon’s death, could be the Commander. Because the Commander’s storytelling destroys the pleasure of play for me. (In this regard).

So, the Commander of the Pact is untrustworthy and sarcastic, the Commander wants rule over all and wants tell everyone what is good, what is bad (like in Dragon Vigil- the dialogue- the Commander and Marjory), the Commander is too serious, unforgiving.
I would love to see the Commander from Personal Story and LS1.

Sorry about my bad English.

Thank You so much, that You read this.

See You in GW2!!

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Posted by: CMM.6712

CMM.6712

-1 Do not agree.

She stole the egg… she deserves the lack of trust.

I like the new commander, he doesn’t act like a chump anymore!

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Arden.7480

But this is not only about behavior toward Caithe, but also about behavior toward Jory.

If I could choose the commander, I don’t want be like… it.

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CMM.6712

I like it, a commander COMMANDING. Glad he isn’t acting like a chump anymore.

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But he is commanding and no-one listen to the Commander.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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Don’t worry I have a feeling there is gonna be a new person for the commander to distrust and be unhappy with which will probably put Caithe back in the good books again. Play to the end of the new story episode and you should see who I am meaning.

Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?

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Posted by: Sartharina.3542

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Eh… with the latest story, it seems the chance for Caithe to get killed off for being a treacherous and murderous liability has passed, unfortunately. I don’t think you quite understand HOW much Caithe’s actions hurt and betrayed the commander (Though I’m not sure the developers do, either). Then again, as far as I’m concerned, Destiny’s Edge aren’t "The Heroes’ – They’re a bunch of washed-up, incompetent and overly-dramatic losers who failed to kill one dragon, uselessly stood by and watched as the Commander and an airship crew killed the Zhaitan, and contributed nothing of significance to the death of Mordremoth (Aside from Caithe’s desertion leading to the destruction of the Pact Fleet, and Logan, Eir, and Zojja’s incompetence leading to the capture of the Pact Marshal)

That said, I am disliking how much of a jerk the commander’s being, especially in the last instance. But then again, I became a Lazarus fan as soon as he arrived and just started with “They are tied up in battle as well! I do not come with ill intentions!” before jumping immediately to defend the barrier and kicking so much kitten . That said, the “Right. Get me Taimi” line is the best, because it’s a joke, and both parties involve know it’s a joke (Taimi is way too busy doing other things). Caithe was even the one to suggest “Not me?” when the commander suggested someone watch the hatchling.

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Posted by: Ashen.2907

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Caithe is a traitor. In a time of war, not just for political power, but for survival of the sentient species, her betrayal should have resulted in her execution.

I like Caithe as a character, in no small part because she is a terrible person deserving of the ultimate penalty. I think she adds a great deal to the narrative and hope that she eventually pays the ultimate price for her actions.

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Posted by: Palador.2170

Palador.2170

Caithe has terrible judgement, let’s be clear on that. In the sylvari personal story, she’ll kill people just because they’re with the Nightmare Court, and tells someone to give up on the love of his life once she’s joined the Court because there’s no way to bring her back. And yet, when the person SHE cares about is involved, suddenly that’s different?

In LS Season 2, she keeps the secret of the sylvari’s true nature hidden from you and Trahearne, even though she knows he’s about to lead the Pact into the dragon’s area. We all know how that turned out. I should also point out that at this point in the story only two sylvari had heard the call, Scarlet (who tore down her protections), and one of the Soundless that got too close to that area. At this point, Caithe’s thoughts were still very much her own.

They were also her own when she stole the egg from us. Any later claims that she did this because the dragon was messing with her head are complete BS, she did it entirely on her own terrible judgement.

Did the Call of Mordremoth mess with her head? Yes, I’m sure it did, once it started. But by that point we were already headed down a bad path thanks to her choices. But the Call is ended by the time we move into LS3, right?

Well…. no. Primodus has gained some of the powers of the destroyed dragons. There is no guarantee that he can’t influence a sylvari just like Mordremoth did. Maybe he can’t call to all of them in the area, but it’s entirely reasonable to think he may be able to pull on one specific one, one at an important location.

With all this in mind, WHY would we leave Caithe to watch over the hatchling? Seems like a really bad choice, right? Well… we didn’t do that. Remember, Taimi IS watching the egg chamber remotely, and she’s sure to have noticed something was happening and been watching during the fight and the events after it. So our little “joke” about wanting someone we trust to watch over the chamber, and asking for Taimi to do it wasn’t a joke. It was us telling her to watch over the hatchling and Caithe. Caithe doesn’t know, so she’ll stay there where Taimi can keep an eye on her. Caithe can prove that we can trust her now if she tries, but we’re watching her until she does.

As for Lazarus? Yes, his kind did betray the other races long ago, but he does make some very valid points. Also, he’s one person, not his entire race. It’s easier for one person to change than for many. His long sleep/death and recovery may very well have given him a new perspective into things, and seeing two of the Elder Dragons destroyed may have given him hope that doing things honestly will actually work. If nothing else, he wants to survive, so we can trust him at least that far. Our automatic rejection of his offer is very out of place, especially considering how much of the story up to that point (PS as well as LS) has had to do with finding redemption and forgiveness. We don’t have to trust him entirely, but Marjory was the only one being sensible there. She’s taking a big risk, in hopes of a big payoff in a game where we already know we won’t win without risks and losses.

Sarcasm, delivered with a
delicate, brick-like subtlety.

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