Guild Wars 2

Ominous.7583:

The people saying no would be camped by people like me so yes.

Thanks for your vote against PvP in PvE even if you went about it in a round about way.

Obvious answer: “yes”.

xDudisx.5914:

Imagine if we had something like Aion. 2 player’s faction and 1 pve faction. Or you are doing Teq and another guild shows up to gank you.

Oh yes, i can well imagine that – and that’s why my answer is a very definite and loud no.

draxynnic.3719:

A few thematic locations for consensual PvP, though, I don’t see much harm in.

What’s the point? Or, more specifically, what is the point of placing those in PvE instead of the Mists, which are already a place for competitive gameplay?

JustTrogdor.7892:

Ominous.7583:

The people saying no would be camped by people like me so yes.

Thanks for your vote against PvP in PvE even if you went about it in a round about way.

And also this.

Corpus Christi.2057:

Obvious answer: “yes”.

If this answer is the obvious one, why is 80% (probably close to 90%) of this thread against it.

Open world PvP serves no purpose in this game and already exists in the form of WvW. The obvious answer is that most PvErs don’t want it, and if you put it in there, it would drain people from WvW, which Anet wouldn’t want anyway. Maybe not as many people as you think but a lot of the roamers.

Open world pvp is fun, but it doesn’t fit into this game.

Sorry OP.

i think this would be AWSOME as an addition to WVW or a factions system in the distanct future of gw2.

for example maybe eternal battlegrounds gets a dungeon on it and you can only enter it if your party controls stonemist castle, or the dungeon is always open but each world has its own separate entrance and if one finishes the dungeon all the others die, and you can find them and kill them in the middle of the dungeon to prevent them from finishing!

OR a new map where you can only enter it from the side your faction is on (maybe 2 outposts one for each side) and you dont capture any points but the world bosses and events could be done at the constant risk of getting mobbed by the other side….of course this would require unique rewards and incentives to go on the map at all

Rin.1046:

Providing the arena can be avoided, is clearly indicated as a PvP area and is not essential for any PvE progression or achievements, it would be fine.

Optional is good, compulsory or unavoidable will just upset the PvE purists. As indicated by the reasonless no’s in this thread.

all of this except for the “not essential for acheivments or progression” one, i mean sure it doesnt need to have skill unlocks in it but it needs unique gear and some acheivments

It’s a good thing open world PvP will actually never happen. Thread is hypothetical.

Only if they made a PvP server that you could join. I’m not a big fan of open world PvP outside of WvW. I would however welcome a dueling system in PvE, so you can have a friendly 1v1 on the fly instead of setting up a PvP match.

. . . no. No I do not. I had it before in previous games and having to watch my back the whole time and freak out when I notice another player making a beeline for me or seeming to come too close?

I don’t like that feeling. I like the feeling of “oh, cool, someone else” this game gave me from day one. Well, day minus one to be technical.

My first MMO was built with that sort of PvP in mind. If you weren’t in a city, you were fair game to anyone who wanted to kill you and could follow through. Only way out was to Alt+F4 or yank your modem – and you got penalties if you did it repeatedly to dodge combat you didn’t want to take part in anyway. I hated every minute of it because every time I went out to actually play the game I had to either keep an eye out or have a friend to watch my back and hope they could help me chase someone off.

My second game made it impossible to Alt+F4 because it’d just keep you logged in on signal loss for a bit. And oh boy was it easier to just get plastered by someone you didn’t see coming in fifteen to thirty seconds . . . with a greater degree of loss potentially. Again, cities were perfectly safe . . . but then, you couldn’t play the game just in the city. Not really.

I don’t want that. Ever again. I think it fosters a paranoia and attitude which is entirely counter to the feeling Guild Wars 2 wants to engender in its players.

And I don’t need to think, I know, if that gets added? If I gotta watch my back from people who see this as a fun game to go whack-a-mole people just because they can get away with it? Yeah, I know I’m going to actually demand a refund.

Lazaar.9123:

It’s a good thing open world PvP will actually never happen. Thread is hypothetical.

You’ve gotta admit, it would be one heck of an April Fools prank. RaceWars 2: Open world PvP, everyone not of your race is hostile to you, turning Tyria into a giant gankfest for one day!

DavidH.7380:

Lazaar.9123:

It’s a good thing open world PvP will actually never happen. Thread is hypothetical.

You’ve gotta admit, it would be one heck of an April Fools prank. RaceWars 2: Open world PvP, everyone not of your race is hostile to you, turning Tyria into a giant gankfest for one day!

Add in changing the loot icons of junk to look like Precursors and you have one heck of a fun day

I would quit the game if there was PVP, even if it was only semi-forced like RIFT / WoW.

A /duel command would be cool. Even introducing a “Foam Tip” item that let you costume brawl with your real skills would be cool. Something different to do when waiting for someone with a friend.

A PvP Arena in some(or all) cities for super casual PvP would also be pretty neat. Just a small, open area with some “seating” around the edge where spectators could safely watch. As you entered the area there would be a sign labeling it as an arena and perhaps an NPC to further explain/enter. Just to keep it casual, there could be a way point and repair hammer right at the entrance, and no timer on respawns. Oh, and no loot, otherwise people will get serious about it.

Without reading too much of this thread, I’ll echo my cry of “no”. I like being safe in the knowledge that other players cannot sneak up on me when I’m in the base world, and that we’re all on the same side. If I want to go attacking other people, there’s WvW or PvP for that. And with map completion being a thing in this game, I don’t want to have to run through an area where others are tempted to attack me to complete the map, or risk dangers like that.

Now, I have no problem with people opting into a PvP area somewhere in the open world, so long as other people running through aren’t accidentally caught up in the crossfire. I don’t quite understand why we’d need it, though. Leave it for activities, like Southsun crab tossing or Keg Tossing. I might be in the minority here, but I don’t want dueling requests because I’m certain I will get endless requests to duel I would have to decline.

Jermoe Morrow.9501:

A /duel command would be cool. Even introducing a “Foam Tip” item that let you costume brawl with your real skills would be cool. Something different to do when waiting for someone with a friend.

A PvP Arena in some(or all) cities for super casual PvP would also be pretty neat. Just a small, open area with some “seating” around the edge where spectators could safely watch. As you entered the area there would be a sign labeling it as an arena and perhaps an NPC to further explain/enter. Just to keep it casual, there could be a way point and repair hammer right at the entrance, and no timer on respawns. Oh, and no loot, otherwise people will get serious about it.

Would have to add an option to auto-deny duel requests, or else chaos will ensue.

Iyeru.5240:

Jermoe Morrow.9501:

A /duel command would be cool. Even introducing a “Foam Tip” item that let you costume brawl with your real skills would be cool. Something different to do when waiting for someone with a friend.

Would have to add an option to auto-deny duel requests, or else chaos will ensue.

Fair enough.

No.

I can’t find who said it: but they said it best by pointing out that it would create distrust among the playerbase.

Also, getting ganked by another guild while fighting Teq? That’s another reason I say ‘no!’

Short answer: nope.

AegisRunestone.8672:

No.

I can’t find who said it: but they said it best by pointing out that it would create distrust among the playerbase.

Also, getting ganked by another guild while fighting Teq? That’s another reason I say ‘no!’

Twas me, at the least, possibly others.

Nope.

Not against dueling, or small openworld PvP arenas, clearly defined and easily avoided, but my personal interest is zero.

Since we have mega servers now, may be they can do something like DC Universe Online. So you can choose to be in open world pvp mega servers or non pvp mega servers. And they should let players to change any time they want between pvp and non pvp servers so the players won´t be stuck in a mode if they want to play different.

Yes, if it means people stop dueling and farming dailies in hotjoin. Otherwise I don’t care either way.

I like this idea. Make it some kind of little mechanic for some events or part of a heart quest. Why not? It wouldn’t be required so all the haters could just keep rolling. I’d love for organic games of keg brawl or crab toss (I think it was crab toss) that just crop up in the open world. Also dueling needs to be a feature, having to go to an empty arena is silly.

Brain blast: Give us an item like “Brawling Keg: Allows you to set up a small area for keg brawl” or something like that.

PvP = Adrenaline

Killing monsters = boooooooriiiinnngg!

Nope. And PvP servers would fracture the community.

pupi.2465:

PvP = Adrenaline

Killing monsters = boooooooriiiinnngg!

Then go play sPvP or WvW. Nobody’s stopping you.

Lol no.

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There are already two game modes for pvp, exclusively for pvp. Why should pve be changed to facilitate even more pvp?

Either do your thing in pvp/wvw and if you cannot do what you want then ask for something to be added to pvp.

xDudisx.5914:

Imagine if we had something like Aion. 2 player’s faction and 1 pve faction. Or you are doing Teq and another guild shows up to gank you.

That would really, REALLY suck.

However, a flexible dueling system (1v1 or teams up to 20v20) in the open world (but outside main cities) would be a blast.

It would get the pvp out of the same boring maps/capture the point system, and out into the wild. And when you think you are going to get the kill, you accidentally aggro that champion that beats you to a bloody pulp.

I mean, wvw is a really flawed system, with two VERY unbalanced forces crashing here and there, resulting in the death of the weaker. Also, most of the time you just run around doing just pve and a very boring one at that. The dueling would put some fun back in pvp, and i don’t think it would bother pve only gamers at all if done correctly.

YES i would love,but will never happen.This community is kinda scared of pvp

Its ASTOUNDING how offensive some people can get when they don’t get what they want, despite it EXISTING in OTHER game modes or other games. Looking at you amongh other, saalle.4623.

I like PvP, I like WvW, I like Dualing.
I DO NOT WANT PvE and PvP to be mixed because like MOST rational answers here, I understand WHY it does not exist.

Thank you. Now can we STOP BUMPING THIS for kitten sake!

No.

Having played on a pvp server on tera and engaged in duels on Lotro – sure, why not, as long as there are certain limitations to it.
Open-world pvp – limited to specific newly added server(s).
Duel – should come with an auto-deny request and/or restricted to specific areas in the vicinity of the biggest outposts.

However like one poster mentioned above, priority should rather be given to finally bringing the current pvp out of its open beta.

saalle.4623:

YES i would love,but will never happen.This community is kinda scared of pvp

Or, and this will blow your mind to contemplate, some of us actually like most of the game the way its configured where pvp is concerned.

Crazy, right? But wait! There’s more!

SOME of us actually PREFER pvp to be as it is here rather than open world! I mean, its not like any of us that want OWPvP can just go play something like ArcheAge or something, right? (Spoiler Alert: ArcheAge is that way —-—> )

I know this is a lot of alien and bizarre information to try to process all at once, but do try, won’t you? Don’t be afraid. Thinking only hurts until you get used to it.

One thing I really miss, is the challenges in Queens Pavillion Living Story when u fight Liadri. That being said, how awesome wouldnt it be with a gladiator arena in a PvE map, where players can go and look at other players fight?

2vs2, 1vs1 betting gold, for example 5g entrance, winner takes all. That would been really fun and you can see easier if you are a good player or not. Sure, u have roaming in WvW. But most of the time one guy is interrupting the whole duel. Duels in PvP, but there u have to find a guy to duel. If u don’t know many people, it would get boring to find one.

If they added this sort of gameplay, I think it would get very popular.

What do you think? Add two maps in a major city, where u can enter free or bet X amount.

Or just even more easier, open Queens Pavillion for duels. Make an panel, boom.

GW2 WWE with betting? That sure sounds completely legit and not at all risking abuse.

No, thanks. If anything, we should separate pve and pvp even more and give pve some proper balancing.

Not no, but kitten the hell no. Go to sPvP if you want to fight against other players. Or you can go to EotM or W3. There is no need for open world PvP at all. It serves no purpose whatsoever. There are enough kitten measuring contests as it is, and this blatant ego stroking is completely unnecessary. Next you’ll be saying you want mounts and for waypoints to go away and a gear treadmill and having to walk a ghost to your corpse to respawn instead of simply using a waypoint.

Remember: not no, but kitten the hell no.

Abuse.. Yea, that would be a problem. But I think ArenaNet would manage something out which prevents it

ArcheAge, Aion, EVE … can’t think of any others I’ve ‘played’ that are out-of-the-box PvP … they are awful games … I still play EVE.

Duke Nukem.6783:

Rin.1046:

Providing the arena can be avoided, is clearly indicated as a PvP area and is not essential for any PvE progression or achievements, it would be fine.

Optional is good, compulsory or unavoidable will just upset the PvE purists. As indicated by the reasonless no’s in this thread.

all of this except for the “not essential for acheivments or progression” one, i mean sure it doesnt need to have skill unlocks in it but it needs unique gear and some acheivments

I wasn’t saying it cannot have achievements and progression within the activity itself, but I do not think it should have any achievements essential to PvE activities or progression. For example, lets say there is an achievement based on activities in that zone, I do not think this PvP arena should be part of that, but I see no problem with there being its own separate achievements and progression.

Basically, so long as it is not tied to PvE at all, other than it being in a PvE zone, I see no problem with adding something like this. However, as others have stated already, I would rather have the option to duel (1v1 or teams) within guild halls, much like in GW1. I am not against open world PvP, so long as it is concentual. In fact I used to love switching my PvP tag on in WoW occasionally, as it added an extra sense of risk and challenge. But it needs to be added in a very careful and considerate way.

Personally, I would love to have concentual open world duels, as I would love to be able to duel in jumping puzzle areas, etc, for the extra challenge. But I understand this will only end up annoying players trying to do the puzzles properly, so I can accept that this will never happen. The same will be true for events and other open world activities. Open world PvP just cannot happen in GW2 without it negatively effecting other players.

But, like I say, if it was in an isolated, out of the way, place and did not encourage PvE players to take part in it (in other words 100% optional), I would have no problem with small arenas being added to open world zones/cities.

I think a simple 1v1 /duel option in PVE would be nice. If the other player accepted the duel then you would simply become hostile to each other until one (or both) player was downed.

NeedsFoodBadly.2671:

I think a simple 1v1 /duel option in PVE would be nice. If the other player accepted the duel then you would simply become hostile to each other until one (or both) player was downed.

So long as those dueling do not get in the way of other players doing PvE content (events, jumping puzzles, etc). And as you cannot always guarantee all players will be considerate, the only option would be to restrict it to designated areas.

Rich Fuel.7253:

as we all remember the part with the bandits in silverwastes, u take a buff and you apear hostile to players(they can atk you but you cant attack back) and also seen the same at PoI DEVs can make them selves hostile if they wish.
so my question is : would you like there to be some small arena/out post some place in middle of a PVE map, and wen you just step insdie you can fight other players.
in a nutshell would you like a PVP area inside a PVE zone

There’s a wider discussion to be had here. What people expect PvE to be and how they expect it to work for them.

Personally I do PvE to farm – to gain as much wealth as possible.

The introduction of this PvP in PvE feature is double edged.

Would it impede my ability to farm and get that gold? In that case no.

Would it be that I could be rewarded for doing well and farm other players for greater profit? Then yes.

But if it’s just PvP for the sake of PvP I find no reason to have it. If I wanted that I’d go to EoTM, WvW or sPVP.

TL:DR – yes it if allows me to get more money, no otherwise.

DavidH.7380:

Lazaar.9123:

It’s a good thing open world PvP will actually never happen. Thread is hypothetical.

You’ve gotta admit, it would be one heck of an April Fools prank. RaceWars 2: Open world PvP, everyone not of your race is hostile to you, turning Tyria into a giant gankfest for one day!

If this would be the implementation I would wholeheartedly say yes.

Gank and slay all the charr!

mmmmmh… NO!

xDudisx.5914:

Imagine if we had something like Aion. 2 player’s faction and 1 pve faction. Or you are doing Teq and another guild shows up to gank you.

Everything you said sounds terrible.

In Aion it was terrible and ended up being completely one sided Elyos vs Asmodian.

Sounds like you must have been on the winning side. I can assure you, for the losing side, it wasn’t fun at all. Nobody would show up to forts because the other side simply outnumbered us 3 to 1, and for some godforsaken reason winning would get you access to like 10x the abyss points, thus making the winning side even stronger and the losing said weak and ineffective.

Aion is very poor example to use for open PvP. It was a complete gank-fest and you know it.

Nothing about that is fun.

Reading the responses in this thread honestly got me really angry. All the people who are complaining how open world pvp doesn’t fit into this game and we have WvW didn’t read the OP’s proposal AT ALL. Most likely just read the title and had a gut reaction.

He’s proposing a small zone in a pve map where players can dual/FFA/etc. but is completely separate from the rest of the map.

So you guys going to discuss the actual topic or are you just going to ignore all logic so you can complain?

We already have it, its called wvw.