Guild Wars 2

As I said before, the Pathfinder (essentially a remake of D&D 3rd Edition) uses the ‘Inquisitor’ as a divine-magic, (mostly) bow-wielding monster hunter.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/inquisitor

Dace.3985:

On the stream, the way they talked about Guardians fitting the role of witch hunter, my immediate thought was Inquisitor. Doesn’t make much sense for traps but I still like it better than Dragonhunter.

Vanguard, Pathfinder, Sentinel, Vindicator, Warden, and Zealot are also cool names I would pick.

Or they could have just called it the “Witch Hunter” specialization and call it a day. that would have made more sense.

Dace.3985:

On the stream, the way they talked about Guardians fitting the role of witch hunter, my immediate thought was Inquisitor.

Ah I thought that was indeed their intention.

Witch hunter and demonhunter wouldn’t work as the game has neither really, so they make it dragonhunter. Problem is that theme works with witches and demons etc being unholy, making hunting them a holy matter. Dragons…doesn’t work.

First alternative name to pop in my head was Inquisitor which fits well enough but it has the problem of being a very catholic term while the guardian is supposed to be a religion neutral profession. Spiritual maybe, but not religious.

I think the best option while staying with the same theme is my other suggestion, Vanquisher. The word is often used in the way of ‘vanquishing evil’ or whatnot. Should work.

Another alternative if they really want to keep the hunter part is make it a more generic Fellhunter. Fell as in “a : fierce, cruel, terrible b : sinister, malevolent <a fell purpose> c : very destructive : deadly <a fell disease>”. In other words, a hunter of things malevolent.

Jelle.2807:

Dace.3985:

On the stream, the way they talked about Guardians fitting the role of witch hunter, my immediate thought was Inquisitor.

Ah I thought that was indeed their intention.

Witch hunter and demonhunter wouldn’t work as the game has neither really, so they make it dragonhunter. Problem is that theme works with witches and demons etc being unholy, making hunting them a holy matter. Dragons…doesn’t work.

First alternative name to pop in my head was Inquisitor which fits well enough but it has the problem of being a very catholic term while the guardian is supposed to be a religion neutral profession. Spiritual maybe, but not religious.

I think the best option while staying with the same theme is my other suggestion, Vanquisher. The word is often used in the way of ‘vanquishing evil’ or whatnot. Should work.

Another alternative if they really want to keep the hunter part is make it a more generic Fellhunter. Fell as in “a : fierce, cruel, terrible b : sinister, malevolent <a fell purpose> c : very destructive : deadly <a fell disease>”. In other words, a hunter of things malevolent.

+1 for Fellhunter, that one is actually really fitting.

Jelle.2807:

First alternative name to pop in my head was Inquisitor which fits well enough but it has the problem of being a very catholic term while the guardian is supposed to be a religion neutral profession. Spiritual maybe, but not religious.

‘Zealot’ was actually a Jewish political faction in the 1st century, but most people have forgotten its roots.I would say at this point that the term ‘Inquisitor’ is used often enough in science-fiction and fantasy (e.g. Star Wars, Pathfinder, Dragon Age) that its origins are also being diluted.

Dace.3985:

On the stream, the way they talked about Guardians fitting the role of witch hunter, my immediate thought was Inquisitor. Doesn’t make much sense for traps but I still like it better than Dragonhunter.

Vanguard, Pathfinder, Sentinel, Vindicator, Warden, and Zealot are also cool names I would pick.

How about Legionnaire or Seraphim. I mean, come on now! Wings, Spears and all! Traps that beacon to the HEAVENS… What more can I say!

It’s a terrible, unfitting name.

I just hope the spec is better than the name, but won’t get my hopes up. Tis’ Anet.

Shiki.7148:

Jelle.2807:

Dace.3985:

On the stream, the way they talked about Guardians fitting the role of witch hunter, my immediate thought was Inquisitor.

Ah I thought that was indeed their intention.

Witch hunter and demonhunter wouldn’t work as the game has neither really, so they make it dragonhunter. Problem is that theme works with witches and demons etc being unholy, making hunting them a holy matter. Dragons…doesn’t work.

First alternative name to pop in my head was Inquisitor which fits well enough but it has the problem of being a very catholic term while the guardian is supposed to be a religion neutral profession. Spiritual maybe, but not religious.

I think the best option while staying with the same theme is my other suggestion, Vanquisher. The word is often used in the way of ‘vanquishing evil’ or whatnot. Should work.

Another alternative if they really want to keep the hunter part is make it a more generic Fellhunter. Fell as in “a : fierce, cruel, terrible b : sinister, malevolent <a fell purpose> c : very destructive : deadly <a fell disease>”. In other words, a hunter of things malevolent.

+1 for Fellhunter, that one is actually really fitting.

Hmm… that ones actually really good, keeps the hunter vibe but doesn’t specify any particular type of evildoer like Witch, Demon, or Dragon Hunter, just any big evil nasty.

Conncept.7638:

Shiki.7148:

Jelle.2807:

Dace.3985:

On the stream, the way they talked about Guardians fitting the role of witch hunter, my immediate thought was Inquisitor.

Ah I thought that was indeed their intention.

Witch hunter and demonhunter wouldn’t work as the game has neither really, so they make it dragonhunter. Problem is that theme works with witches and demons etc being unholy, making hunting them a holy matter. Dragons…doesn’t work.

First alternative name to pop in my head was Inquisitor which fits well enough but it has the problem of being a very catholic term while the guardian is supposed to be a religion neutral profession. Spiritual maybe, but not religious.

I think the best option while staying with the same theme is my other suggestion, Vanquisher. The word is often used in the way of ‘vanquishing evil’ or whatnot. Should work.

Another alternative if they really want to keep the hunter part is make it a more generic Fellhunter. Fell as in “a : fierce, cruel, terrible b : sinister, malevolent <a fell purpose> c : very destructive : deadly <a fell disease>”. In other words, a hunter of things malevolent.

+1 for Fellhunter, that one is actually really fitting.

Hmm… that ones actually really good, keeps the hunter vibe but doesn’t specify any particular type of evildoer like Witch, Demon, or Dragon Hunter, just any big evil nasty.

Problem being, with Dragon hunter, Dragon is a noun, an object. In Fell Hunter, you’re using the adjective definition which would then be the descriptor of the word Hunter, giving you a “fierce, cruel, sinister, malevolent” hunter which I don’t think it’s the goal. Fell, the noun, means skin or pelt. Also not really right.

I like Inquisitor. Also, only saw one person mention Exorcist and I like that cause d.grayman.

Leo G.4501:

I like Inquisitor. Also, only saw one person mention Exorcist and I like that cause d.grayman.

Exorcist is also a good choice.

Hmm or maybe FellDrake Hunter? Lol

Or SinHunter?

Seraphim is cool.
But pretty much anything that fits guardian light theme.

My opinion after seeing the Ready Up episode :

The spec is quite cool and interesting, It is basically anything you can think about for a real GUARDIAN with a bow.
To me nothing in it evokes a hunter. Traps don’t feel like the ones of a hunter, they are magical marks that activate various spells when triggered (of course this is the mechanism of trap, but visually it doesn’t look like it)

When Karl McLain (I think that’s his name ?) shortly explained the idea behind this spec he basically said this “oh he wants to destroy everything about dragons…”
This is clearly the WORST thing he could have said. He just officially confirmed that there is nothing intelligent or coherent behind this. Just “hey dragon killas r kool u no !”
Plus there is now clearly no link with the Guardian in this theme, even if it totally looks like Guardian. Actually, as I said earlier, it is completely a Guardian with an absurd name.

I know, maybe they don’t want to spoil the bigger things behind it. But I really can’t see anything to justify Dragonhunter as a name and as a theme for the spec.

I repeat : To me nothing in it really evokes a hunter. And the draconic components of the spec are only in the name and the look of the character. Those are easy to change.
If anybody here thought that Sentinel, Arbiter, Avenger etc… wouldn’t really make sense, believe me Dragonhunter makes even less sense.

So in the end, this is exactly what I thought : nice spec, but terrible name, and totally absurd theme.
They have to do something about that.

Sentinel would be my choice (although I could take anything that is not Dragonhunter, or dragon related, or hunter related)

Ojyh.9842:

When Karl McLain (I think that’s his name ?) shortly explained the idea behind this spec he basically said this “oh he wants to destroy everything about dragons…”
This is clearly the WORST thing he could have said. He just officially confirmed that there is nothing intelligent or coherent behind this. Just “hey dragon killas r kool u no !”
Plus there is now clearly no link with the Guardian, although it totally looks like Guardian.
I know, maybe they don’t want to spoil the bigger things behind it. But I really can’t see anything to justify Dragonhunter as a name and as a theme for the spec.

So then Zealot might work as a name after all.

Leo G.4501:

So then Zealot might work as a name after all.

Other than the class has a trait line named Zeal that your Zealot may or may not actually take. Which means no, its not a useable Elite-Spec name for guards at all.

Same as we wont see Elite “Tactician” Warriors or “Acrobat” Thieves.

Slayer
Keeper
Overseer
Babysitter

Leo G.4501:

Ojyh.9842:

When Karl McLain (I think that’s his name ?) shortly explained the idea behind this spec he basically said this “oh he wants to destroy everything about dragons…”
This is clearly the WORST thing he could have said. He just officially confirmed that there is nothing intelligent or coherent behind this. Just “hey dragon killas r kool u no !”
Plus there is now clearly no link with the Guardian, although it totally looks like Guardian.
I know, maybe they don’t want to spoil the bigger things behind it. But I really can’t see anything to justify Dragonhunter as a name and as a theme for the spec.

So then Zealot might work as a name after all.

Well, that would be better. But I think we should reserve that kind of option for a more aggressive type of specialization. Plus the base spec that already has this name…

Nike.2631:

Leo G.4501:

So then Zealot might work as a name after all.

Other than the class has a trait line named Zeal that your Zealot may or may not actually take. Which means no, its not a useable Elite-Spec name for guards at all.

Same as we wont see Elite “Tactician” Warriors or “Acrobat” Thieves.

You can easily rename trait lines as there is nothing in this game (absolutely nothing) that cares what the name of the trait line is called. They could rename all the trait lines 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and it would make no difference.

Heck, they could keep the name of the elite spec’s trait line as Dragon Hunting and just name the spec something else! Consider: The mesmer elite spec line is likely not going to be called Chronomancer…it’s going to be called Chronoman_cy_ or Chronology or Time[something].

Leo G.4501:

Nike.2631:

Leo G.4501:

So then Zealot might work as a name after all.

Other than the class has a trait line named Zeal that your Zealot may or may not actually take. Which means no, its not a useable Elite-Spec name for guards at all.

Same as we wont see Elite “Tactician” Warriors or “Acrobat” Thieves.

You can easily rename trait lines as there is nothing in this game (absolutely nothing) that cares what the name of the trait line is called. They could rename all the trait lines 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and it would make no difference.

That’s definitively true !
If one day they need to free some names (it seems they already do…), they better look at that.

So yeah, their explanation on the stream says: “He wants to hunt everything dragon”
This includes their minions and everything surounding them.

I know what they were going for. I get it, but seriously?

1. Guardians aren`t the only ones with this objective.

2. I bet other classes can easily become dragonhunter themselves.

3. Yes he is a hunter. he has traps, goes for one shots. However that is only part of his discription. He is also backline support. So what is he now? Hunter or protector?
Yes, he can be both, which he certainly will, but how does it make him special?
How is he different from a guardian, exept he uses a bow and traps?

4. Does it mean we get dragonhunters playing inquisition with the Sylvari now? If I would roleplay, is my Sylvari allowed to become a Dragonhunter? Sylvari are of the dragon.

5. Are Dragonhunter fanatics? Are they the new White Mantle? Do they hunt everything dragon? Will they shut down the inquests dragon energy experiments?

6. Why are only guardians “worthy” to be called dragonhunters? What makes them supperior to other classes? We have seen other classes and whole factions be usefull against and creating tactics and weapons against dragons.

7. The Guardian was proficient in burning already. Why isn`t that taken to the next level. Going AoE, burning masses of dragon minions.

Their explanation of the name raises just too many questions? It`s the revenant all over again. At least that one makes a some kind of twisted sense, if we ignore the timeline issue.
However the Dragonhunter… What were they thinking? Can please some dev adress this issue? The thread, merged, is popping the 700 replie number allready and that in only 24 hours since namedrop.
Most people here looking for some kind of sense or even alternatives.
Doesn`t that warrant any attention?

It would be very easy for them to remove the dragon theme from this specialisation.

Rename the following:
LongBow 5 skill “Hunter’s Ward”.
Elite Trap “Dragon’s Maw”.
Traits “Hunter’s Determination”, “Hunter’s Fortification” and “Big Game Hunter”.
The elite spec name “DragonHunter”

—>That would take the devs less then a hour to do.

Change the following:
The animation for “Dragon’s Maw”.
Sell the unique Longbow and Glove skins on the gem store, give us new unique skins not Dragon themed.

—>This would take slightly longer to do compared to name changes, but should still be easy to do.

Done. I just fixed this elite spec, you are welcome ArenaNet.

Ojyh.9842:

Leo G.4501:

Ojyh.9842:

When Karl McLain (I think that’s his name ?) shortly explained the idea behind this spec he basically said this “oh he wants to destroy everything about dragons…”
This is clearly the WORST thing he could have said. He just officially confirmed that there is nothing intelligent or coherent behind this. Just “hey dragon killas r kool u no !”
Plus there is now clearly no link with the Guardian, although it totally looks like Guardian.
I know, maybe they don’t want to spoil the bigger things behind it. But I really can’t see anything to justify Dragonhunter as a name and as a theme for the spec.

So then Zealot might work as a name after all.

Well, that would be better. But I think we should reserve that kind of option for a more aggressive type of specialization. Plus the base spec that already has this name…

My comment was mainly focused on the fact the spec seems very focused on destruction of a specific thing and everything related to it even despite lore showing that dragons aren’t inherently bad (or can be turned to our side). It just bleeds the characteristic of blind zeal to me.

Arnath.2319:

It would be very easy for them to remove the dragon theme from this specialisation.

Rename the following:
LongBow 5 skill “Hunter’s Ward”.
Elite Trap “Dragon’s Maw”.
Traits “Hunter’s Determination”, “Hunter’s Fortification” and “Big Game Hunter”.
The elite spec name “DragonHunter”

—>That would take the devs less then a hour to do.

Change the following:
The animation for “Dragon’s Maw”.
Sell the unique Longbow and Glove skins on the gem store, give us new unique skins not Dragon themed.

—>This would take slightly longer to do compared to name changes, but should still be easy to do.

Done. I just fixed this elite spec, you are welcome ArenaNet.

I would even say they could keep the dragons maw how it is.
I mean. Nothing speaks against attacks which are inspired by other things. Just look at the Ranger, who summons the image of a bear to attack.
So a dragon coming out of the ground to be an ultimate attack is kinda fitting.

Jaken.6801:

So yeah, their explanation on the stream says: “He wants to hunt everything dragon”
This includes their minions and everything surounding them.

I know what they were going for. I get it, but seriously?

1. Guardians aren`t the only ones with this objective.

2. I bet other classes can easily become dragonhunter themselves.

3. Yes he is a hunter. he has traps, goes for one shots. However that is only part of his discription. He is also backline support. So what is he now? Hunter or protector?
Yes, he can be both, which he certainly will, but how does it make him special?
How is he different from a guardian, exept he uses a bow and traps?

4. Does it mean we get dragonhunters playing inquisition with the Sylvari now? If I would roleplay, is my Sylvari allowed to become a Dragonhunter? Sylvari are of the dragon.

5. Are Dragonhunter fanatics? Are they the new White Mantle? Do they hunt everything dragon? Will they shut down the inquests dragon energy experiments?

6. Why are only guardians “worthy” to be called dragonhunters? What makes them supperior to other classes? We have seen other classes and whole factions be usefull against and creating tactics and weapons against dragons.

7. The Guardian was proficient in burning already. Why isn`t that taken to the next level. Going AoE, burning masses of dragon minions.

Their explanation of the name raises just too many questions? It`s the revenant all over again. At least that one makes a some kind of twisted sense, if we ignore the timeline issue.

However the Dragonhunter… What were they thinking? Can please some dev adress this issue? The thread, merged, is popping the 700 replie number allready and that in only 24 hours since namedrop.
Most people here looking for some kind of sense or even alternatives.
Doesn`t that warrant any attention?

“Inquisitor” would have been great for this expansion, as it extends beyond simply destroying the dragons and their minions. An inquisitor hunting dragon minions and its corruption? Great. An inquisitor focused on the sylvari? Great. An inquisitor worried about the mursaat and the White Mantle? Great. An inquisitor solving any further mysteries the game may throw at us? Great.

The specilization should be called Quincy (Kuinsh?) meaning “Monk of Destruction”. As seen in the video they have blue bows, blue traps and something similar to blue wings and other very similar traits.

Not really.

Inquisitor usually goes into a more personal contact with its target.
Susequently it would only work against the Sylvari right now.
It doesn`t feel right to be a combat class.
Even in Warhammer the Inquisitor visits and mostly tells others what to do.
He only participates in battles if he is forced to.

He is a judge. A judge who has a particular skillset (usually in fiction)

He wouldn`t really fit the Hunter or Guardian direction, as they are way too combat oriented.

Strikamerki.4560:

The specilization should be called Quincy (Kuinsh?) meaning “Monk of Destruction”. As seen in the video they have blue bows, blue traps and something similar to blue wings and other very similar traits.

Now that would be even more fitting with the medium armor class.
Bleach reference okay, but I usually would think of an old TV Show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3pd-dNN-0

Jaken.6801:

Not really.

Inquisitor usually goes into a more personal contact with its target.
Susequently it would only work against the Sylvari right now.
It doesn`t feel right to be a combat class.
Even in Warhammer the Inquisitor visits and mostly tells others what to do.
*He only participates in battles if he is forced to.

He is a judge. A judge who has a particular skillset (usually in fiction)*

He wouldn`t really fit the Hunter or Guardian direction, as they are way too combat oriented.

Judge Dredd would like to have a word with you.

Genesis.8572:

Jaken.6801:

Not really.

Inquisitor usually goes into a more personal contact with its target.
Susequently it would only work against the Sylvari right now.
It doesn`t feel right to be a combat class.
Even in Warhammer the Inquisitor visits and mostly tells others what to do.
*He only participates in battles if he is forced to.

He is a judge. A judge who has a particular skillset (usually in fiction)*

He wouldn`t really fit the Hunter or Guardian direction, as they are way too combat oriented.

Judge Dredd would like to have a word with you.

Who is a “special” operative, alongside normal policemen.
Never siad they can`t fight.
Just saying that they are few and usually are more ordering people around.
We only see the “epic” action of Judge Dredd, but in that regard he is no different like the Warhammer Inquisitors.
They can also fight and kick kitten , but most of the time they go somewhere and take a look and only fight if kitten goes down.

How often do policemen use their weapons and how often do they just go somwhere and check. There is a difference.

Jaken.6801:

Not really.

Inquisitor usually goes into a more personal contact with its target.
Susequently it would only work against the Sylvari right now.
It doesn`t feel right to be a combat class.
Even in Warhammer the Inquisitor visits and mostly tells others what to do.
He only participates in battles if he is forced to.

He is a judge. A judge who has a particular skillset (usually in fiction)

He wouldn`t really fit the Hunter or Guardian direction, as they are way too combat oriented.

All those reasons you mentioned make it seem so right though!

I see a “Dragonhunter” would only participate in battles unless required otherwise, he seeks out and destroys dragons and anything related to them. And Sylvari aren’t the only possible targets to ‘visit’, there’s many corrupted things out there.

I haven’t seen the Readyup though, but the way it’s described, the spec is not suppose to be as in-your-face as a guardian but it can accomplish things at that range when necessary. I’d say then, Purifier would also work as a name but it feels too generic and doesn’t specify what or in what fashion.

Inquisitor sounds like a more distant, deliberate force, aiming to seek out and purge the corruption of the dragons. It also sounds more mental with the use of setting traps. From what I’ve heard, those traps hardly feel hunger-ish anyway.

Strikamerki.4560:

The specilization should be called Quincy (Kuinsh?) meaning “Monk of Destruction”. As seen in the video they have blue bows, blue traps and something similar to blue wings and other very similar traits.

It does have quite a few similarities to the new spec. The problems would be, however, using that name requires using that lore since I think kitten Kubo made up the terms, style and story behind them himself. So unless there’s something else the Quincy is based off of, GW2 would have to use a similar set of rules…

…then there’s the whole legal issues involved.

I agree with most in saying the name should be a Warrior or Ranger name. The Guardian should be named Warden or Paragon not Dragon Hunter. The concept seems forced into something that would be great for the new PvP, but I’m not big into PvP. I can’t wait to try out the new specialization.

All you Dragonhaters been drinkin’ Dragonhateorade.

The poll will give a rather useless result, seeing as the vast majority of the player-base never visits the forums.

I would also suggest spending some time reading the rules for the forums.

I recommend chaning the name to “Wyrmhunter”, and retcon all large dragon champions to be referred as “wyrms”, and make wyverns for all dragons.

So, while there would be lesser Wyverns, there would also be large Wyrms.

Might as well call it “Hamburger” or “Pizza” if names don’t matter

However, I think anet did this on purpose even though they know how ridiculous this name is. Maybe their plan is to tie the profession into lore something. I mean, they tied a race (Sylvari) to be associated with an Elder Dragon. Maybe their next twist is linking a profession spec into another Elder Dragon. The Six Gods might be involved? You can argue that light magic is associated with the Gods and Guardians use light magic, the Six Gods might be utilizing Guards as their instruments to get rid of the EDs to make way for their return.

Anyways, just trying to give rationale for why they gave Guard Elite Spec a ridiculous name like Dragonhunter.

They didnt even mention it in the Twitch reveal lol….. they arent going to change it.

lordkrall.7241:

I would also suggest spending some time reading the rules for the forums.

No.

Dragon Hunter is not a good name lets face it. Arbiter fits the role much more even in the upcoming expansions. For example, lets say ArenaNet decide to make an expansion that doesn’t involve dragon slaying; there will be no reason for a dragon hunter to be in that expansion. However with Arbiter fits the bill regardless of expansion. It fits with trap theme, light theme bow shooter, etc.

Everyone please discuss your thoughts.

Arbiter is worse…………makes me think of athletes disputing their contracts.

Honestly…..i didn’t like the name until i heard their intent…….an overzealous religious inquisitor-type.

political correctness will not allow them to make any correlation to the inquisition, or the crusades, or anything that’s related to real-world religious events/wars.

this was as close as they could get w/o upsetting every lame SJW that plays this game.

Any name other than Dragonhunter honestly.

We’re not big game hunters.

This is a big game hunter: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/05/big-game-cameron.jpg

I don’t like the name Arbiter either. An Arbiter is one who makes decisions, like an umpire or judge
.
“a person empowered to decide matters at issue; judge; umpire. 2. a person who has the sole or absolute power of judging or determining.”

What does this have to do with using a longbow or traps?

coglin.1867:

A. Dragon Hunter, in a game in which the main story and expansion, revolve around dragons, I think it is a spectacular name.

Dragon Hunter, in a game where every single profession hunts dragons.
A game where every single profession follows the story of HUNTING DRAGONS.

It is a terrible name, you know it, i know it, the devs know it.

Orpheal.8263:

Why does Crusader fit as a proper name and Dragonhunter does not?
- Because Crusader fits to the Theme, Style & Gameplay.
- Because it sounds like a gender neutral profession and not like a title.
- Because it also fits to the Class Type (Soldier, where Dragonhunter looks more like being Adventurers with supernatural powers in just heavy armor, its whole gameplay has nothing to do anymore with the Guardian, except for turning the Virtues now into manifestions of weapons and wings.

Crusader is a title. It is anyone participating in a Crusade, which is a Holy War. The Guardian is not intrinsicly religious. Real Guardians are just adventurers in heavy armor in this game. There is no single place that promotes Guardians. They are not an organisation.

Orpheal.8263:

Why does Templar fit as a proper name and Lightbow does not?
- Because unlike Lightbow, Templar is no childish stupid made up word of just two English Words put together telling people, this is a profession. Templars, or “Temple Knights” to say are known for being a proper profession in real life just as like Crusaders.
- Because it also sounds like a gender neutral profession and not like just a title like Dragonhunter does.
- Because it also does to the shared Class Type of being a Soldier, because Templars actually do/did wear heavy armors.

Aside from the fact that you undo your own argument by saying that Templar is not just two english words put together then refer to it by two english words put together, this has the same problem as Crusader. There is no Guardian Temple. We are not set to task by any deity. Real life Templars and Crusaders, to some, were terrible people who killed millions in the name of religion, and so saying its based in reality is not a plus for me.

Orpheal.8263:

Why does Seeker firt as a proper name and Paragon does not?
- Because Paragon is just a made up name like Lightbow, just with the difference, that this time its actually an existign English Word just simply turned into the meaning of beign a profession, when in fact it is not, a Seeker compared to that can bee seen as someone, who strives for justice and punishes those that do commit crimes, thus it actually does fit into the Theme, Style and Gameplay of the zealous Guardian.
Its a much better fitting name for a profession, than even Arbiter, because Seeker just stands out more for beign Judges, that follow and do everything possible to bring justice relentlessly to Tyria

Seeker is just too generic. Everyone in Tyria is seeking something. and end to the dragons, a really good use for blood stone dust, a precursor. Anyone and everyone who adventures seeks something, and is thus a seeker. (note: This argument can also be applied to Guardian, Warrior, Ranger, etc)

Orpheal.8263:

Why does Justiciar fit as a proper name and Guardian Angel does not?
- See Seeker, Justiciar would be just a fittign alternative name for Seeker, just that Justiciar would have that kind of “fanatism” more behind it, for one, who fanatically seeks for justice, like being too zealous about beign tyrias police. Guardian Angel compared to that just sounds again totally made up and cheesy, like being made up from a small child that can’t think of anything more creative, because childs just priorize only in regard of names, if it sounds “cool enough” for them to like it, not if it actually is a proper name, cause, they simply don’t care about that, as long that name just sounds “cool”. Justiciar again just sounds compared to Seeker like being more sophisticated. If you take that fanatism aside, you coudl think of them also basically as like a kind of “Elite” among Seekers, like a higher rank .

Im going to stop my discussion here, because the bold part hits the nail on the head. You are admiting that you think that its wrong for people to prioritize the cool sounding names over other ones. The ES plays fine. It looks great in the Ready up. Now we are here just arguing because… because… we all just want a cool name. We are prioritizing a cool sounding name over everything else. Lets just call it Elite Spec. 1.

The worst part is, the mechanics look at the very least, interesting and fun, but the “hunting” theme Anet is pushing for the Guardian prof. is just weird and unfitting.

The spec is for an offensive playstyle it seems, why not just give it a more thematic name like Zealot or Judge.

Seems Anet drop the ball on this one very hard, again the complaint is not about the mechanics, but the theme and name itself.

The name is fine. Especially when people just break out a standard thesaurus as their only attempt to find something else. Sheesh.

Relshdan.6854:

Arbiter is worse…………makes me think of athletes disputing their contracts.

Honestly…..i didn’t like the name until i heard their intent…….an overzealous religious inquisitor-type.

political correctness will not allow them to make any correlation to the inquisition, or the crusades, or anything that’s related to real-world religious events/wars.

this was as close as they could get w/o upsetting every lame SJW that plays this game.

Doesn’t seem that bioware’s swtor had a problem with it.

After watch the Ready Up it seems like the devs still don’t get it. The reason something like “With Hunter” evokes something is because not everyone is out there hunting witches or something similar in fashion. It is unique. Whereas in GW2 we see literally entire fleets are hunting Dragons or their minions. Some uniqueness there. Pointing out that “Dragon Hunter” extends to hunting Dragon minions too really only further waters down an already poorly themed specialization.

What if we just change the hunter part? Wha about Dragonbane