Legenday Backpiece Worry
No, my analogy is perfectly fine. If you want the skin you have to pay for it by doing fractals. Period.
Sorry I need to take a moment.. I cant handle the high level of logic here.
I agree with you. I can clearly see that you cannot handle logic. That is glaringly apparent.
Always fascinating to meet someone incapable of logic thought, can you not read? In order to make those legendaries you had to do content from ALL gamemodes not just wvw. Are you so self-centered that you didnt notice that in order for a wvwer to get a legendary he has to grind out the remaining what was it 98% worth of map completion in pve maps. I know you have difficulties with putting yourself in others’ shoes but many wvwers enjoy grinding out pve maps about as much as you enjoyed wvw map completion.
Did you really think that all the name calling and insults would bother me? I see that you have a problem with others that do not agree with you and resort to name calling and personal attacks.
As I said and you clearly chose to ignore, there are plenty of items in game that can only be obtained through one venue. It doesn’t matter if they are legendary or basic items. In order to obtain them you have to do the content in which they are obtained.
It certainly has nothing to do with caring only about myself or my being “self-centered”. There are plenty in this thread who agree with me. As far as me being self-centered and not being able to put myself in others shoes, you have no basis to make such statements. I absolutely do understand not wanting to do something to get something else. I said that. I.E.: Playing PvP to get the PvP armor skins. That is the only place (keyword “only”) I can get it. I will have to play PvP to get it. The difference between you and I is that I am not going to QQ over having to do it. That isn’t being self-centered. That is being mature, realistic and playing by the rules. You should try that.
You can twist it any way you like, but doing a fractal is a cost for obtaining the piece. There is a set of armor you can only get in PvP and if I want it, then I will have to go there and get it. I don’t want to, but I will some day just because I want it. I will do it without whining and crying about it because that is the cost of getting it.
We’re not complaining about the event where certain skins are only available in certain game modes.
Yes you are.
We’re complaining about the event where a legendary backpiece is only available through a significantly large amount of fractals. It would be something to complain about if ascended gear was only obtainable through pvp and every other game mode only provided you with exotic.
No it would not. I would do that as well if that is what I needed to do.
Anyway its quite meaningless talking to you any further, youre clearer simply content with being catered for rather than discussing the lack of equality across the three gamemodes.
LOL. I actually physically laughed when I read this. You are the one that is all bent out of shape because you want things to be changed so you can have things convenient for you instead of doing what is required. Yet you say that “I want to be catered too”? That is funny stuff! I’m saying just the opposite. I absolutely DO NOT want to be catered to. I want to do what is required even if I don’t like it. I say I will follow the rules. I’m not asking anyone to do anything special or change anything to suit me. You are the one doing that. So I guess we all go back to your first statement above.
I cant handle the high level of logic here.
This comment is directed only to the things OP has talked about, i didn’t bother reading through 3 pages of other bickering so I’m just going to address the issues he is concerned with.
@ukadam First of all, stop complaining and start playing (better). You said you want alternative solutions to obtaining the legendary backpiece and you seem pretty upset that fractal is the only way to get it, and then compared it to the various different ways pvp players have to obtain legendary weapons. If you did pvp at all you would know that doing just pvp will never get you a legendary weapon, the only thing pvp helps with is getting mystic clovers efficiently, t6 mats are still rare, the chance for a precursor is probably even smaller in pvp than it is in pve due to the fact that you can get way more exotic bags through pve content like silverwastes. Also if you have found a way to finish your map completion through just pvp then be sure to let me know, i have 8 more characters i need to map complete on. I don’t think I need to go on with all the other components required to make a legendary weapon, but as you can see, pvp only really helps with getting mystic clovers without having to waste a ton of globs on them, everything else is probably obtained faster through pve/wvw.
Second, if you bothered reading the article about legendary backpieces at all, you would have seen that fractals is only going to provide you a component of the backpiece, they haven’t even talked about all the other things you will need to finish it, you would be foolish if you thought the legendary backpiece will only consist of one component that is from fractals and you will be done with it, if crafting legendary weapons have taught us anything, it is that you need to explore different aspects of the game such as dungeons/crafting/map exploration just to be able to craft the weapon, so why do you think the backpiece will be any different? Just as weapons require you to get gifts of exploration ONLY OBTAINED THROUGH MAP COMPLETION, the backpiece will also require you to get a component which for now might be only obtainable through fractals. I don’t see you crying about having to do map completion for the gifts of exploration. IMO getting 100% map comp might take a lot longer to do than whatever the fractal component is for the backpiece. I am sure someone has probably commented on your car analogy but just in case they haven’t let me just elaborate on why that is such an incomplete analogy. You said that when you buy a car you can choose to either buy it or make monthly payments. If car = fractal component, buying it = running all levels of fractals in one sitting, making monthly payments = slowly leveling up your fractal rewards level. I hope that doesn’t need any more of an explanation. You are just unwilling to do the work required to obtain the resources to purchase the final product. In terms of your car analogy, you want money to somehow magically appear to buy the car but you don’t want to work to obtain they money you need to buy it.
Third, I doubt you have done enough fractal runs to speak for the majority of the fractals community, so to say the whole basket of apples is soiled after taking a bite out of the rotten one would be an unfair evaluation to the rest of the apples in the basket. I also don’t know what kind of teams you run with, or what kind of necro you play, but after the most recent balance patch, I have been getting more fractal parties on my necro than any other class, some parties even prefer a necro because of the high amount of utility and sustain it provides. I won’t go into the build i use, but dagger/warhorn, axe/focus with well utilities and vampiric aura is doing wonders for me right now. It is also nice that in that same post you showed concern for the people who wvw/pvp but I highly doubt they are going to cry about having to do fractals to get one component from fractals, because they probably understand the process to make a legendary anything requires them to do various things in different aspects of the game.
Fourth, the next post you wrote talks about how it isn’t about the fractals, it is about not having a choice. Hmm yeah I don’t see you being held at gunpoint and being told to craft this backpiece or else you will get shot. You are making the choice to craft the backpiece, so do what is needed to make it. If you want to win the lottery, you have to go out and purchase a lottery ticket, or have someone else purchase one for you. No lottery ticket = No win.
Again, I’m sorry for repeating what someone might have already said.
TL,DR: Stop complaining, and start playing.