1. I don’t see how releasing a class a bit early for pre-orders is changing your entire game plan, in fact the entire game was released early for preorders at launch.
it wont change very much other then why should it be the revenant as i want the mastery system in tyria a little before and use that or wait we can also do the pvp maps a little before.
why the class?
and if the class why not the rest? answer that in a way where all will be satisfied or at least the majority of all players.
there are a lot looking forward for the mastery changes and also a lot looking forward for the pvp map changes and wvw map changes and simply put there is no reason able to satisfy one that dont care about the new class but cares about any of the other things and then they will say stuff about why release the class first why not the thing i like and that will most likely be way releasing all at the same time is the smart thing;)
You can get points towards the mastery system, right now. They said content in the vanilla maps that earn mastery points will be given to accounts that earned them when the expansion arrives.
For example, if doing the personal story gives you X mastery points and you do it before the expansion, you’ll get those points when the expansion arrives.
You can get the points yes, but not the xp for it. So when HoT launches in the current maps you’ll be able to select a line right away, have to go do things to earn xp in that line and only after you complete the bar will you be able to apply those points.
I do know the internal workings of game development, and even mmo development. Your assumption on comparing beta and live environments, and how they are completely different, and how it would require allot of work, is entirely wrong. Now i don’t have exact details on Arenanet’s operation, but unless they did something completely bonkers in their structure, releasing this class a bit early should not only be possible, but possibly even be safer in terms of not encountering unexpected problems.
Unless you specifically know how Arenanet has things set-up in their programing for this game you can’t legitimately make the assumption it would be easy for them to just activate the Revenant without anything else that is coming with the HoT release. You might consider that sort of set-up bonkers, but then you probably don’t know everything about their engine and how things are set-up, so again that’s not really an assumption you can actually make.
Pretty sure there is no button or switch to just make Rev available, so probably should stop treating it as if it’s that simple.
I can legitimately make that assumption, because these systems are set up quite simular at different mmo’s. And most mmo’s don’t even dare thinking of running their beta’s in the same client as the release version. Most mmo’s make you download an entire new version of the game to test stuff. And even those mmo’s have all added class features and changes ready to go at least a week up front in the actual client. Arenanet has the beta inside the client, and isn’t scared to have the beta just be ingame in the live environment, since no different games files are needed and you can play with people playing their main account, wich tells us they have a better system then those mmo’s. So yeah i made an assumption out of that. But it’s based on what i know. Just because i don’t know the exact system doesn’t mean i don’t know how much harder a beta on live servers is compared to a beta on a PBE. If they can do all that in their client, releasing the revenant a bit early is like asking a theoretical physicist to solve 2+2.
Btw if it really isn’t possible with how the system works right now, wich i highly doubt, then the devs are the ones that need to tell us that, not some random person who thinks it may be so (if there really was a problem with this in a technical sense i would expect a dev to have reacted already). Until then, i suggest we continue the discussion under the idea that it is possible and fairly easy to do.
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Until then, i suggest we continue the discussion under the idea that it is possible and fairly easy to do.
The title questions is, “can we get it early.” If we assume that it’s possible and fairly easy to do so, then, well, of course we could get it early. In that case, there’s nothing at all to discuss: if it were that easy, then there’s really no reason at all for ANet to delay releasing this particular feature.
Since they haven’t released the Revenant early (and have shown no signs that they are even considering that as a possibility), I think it’s far more likely that it’s difficult to do so. And if that’s true, the costs far outweigh the benefits.
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Until then, i suggest we continue the discussion under the idea that it is possible and fairly easy to do.
The title questions is, “can we get it early.” If we assume that it’s possible and fairly easy to do so, then, well, of course we could get it early. In that case, there’s nothing at all to discuss: if it were that easy, then there’s really no reason at all for ANet to delay releasing this particular feature.
Since they haven’t released the Revenant early (and have shown no signs that they are even considering that as a possibility), I think it’s far more likely that it’s difficult to do so. And if that’s true, the costs far outweigh the benefits.
And yet no dev has responded saying, srry guys this isn’t possible, while on most things that aren’t possible, they respond directly. This is a matter of choice not technical issues, not until a dev confirms otherwise.
So can we plz keep the discussion on if it’s possible, should it be done.
The 3 day headstart for pre-orders at launch wasn’t anounced until they anounced the release date so it’s fairly logical that whatever we can possibly get won’t be anounced till they anounce the HoT release date.
I say a headstart for the rev would be better then just a general 3 day headstart in this case.
If you are looking for a cozy mature Dutch guild (EU) let me know.
I’m not sure that for most things not possible, there is a Dev response….or, if so, certainly not in what would be considered, by many, a timely manner. I mean, there are a plethora of posts/threads/comments about how little interaction with the Devs there is.
