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(edited by Ricky.4706)
Veteran entitlement mentality.
I could quote myself… but KISS:
You can get the exact same. A brand new account including GW2 base Game and the Expansion on top. That is the exact same a new player gets and you can too.
Having to start a brand new account, just to get the equal value for your purchase, is a penalty to most vets instead of an equal value. Starting a brand new account…instead of upgrading the existing account (because you won’t be able to do both with the same code), means you will not even get the value of adding specializations to your existing characters. This will mean invalidating all of the effort you have put into those characters…essentially negating your veteran status. A new player has nothing to lose from the current offer, in fact, they have everything to gain from it. This is the opposite for a veteran. Yes, there are some vets who play so much, that they would benefit from a second farm account…there are some who would not. Yes, one option would be to include two separate game codes in the HoT purchase (one for the original, one for HoT). That would work for the extreme vets who spend that much time in game, but unless that separate HoT code can be used twice…to upgrade both original GW2 accounts…then it has a problem too. I think the real solution is to give equivalent value to vets if they aren’t going to provide separate pricing options. Equivalent value would include additional character slots, skins, titles, etc. The additional character slots would be key for me…as I am one of many who have filled all original character slots with characters I would prefer not to delete…especially not on the hopes that a revenant will be more fun than the deleted character. Its poor design/greed to sell an expansion including a new profession…while excluding the ability to even play this new profession unless more money is spent. The short of this is that we are 100% not getting the exact same thing that a new player is. We are just paying for the same thing and expected to take a huge penalty if we do want the same thing as a new player.
It’s really simple for me. HoT might be worth $50 if included a character slot, if the best-case scenario about what might be included pans out. I know for sure I’m not going to spend $50 for what’s been shown + $10 more for a slot so I can roll a Revenant. SIMPLY. NOT. HAPPENING. No entitlement here, just an unwillingness to be fleeced.
However, if I were a new customer, heck YES I’d take the deal A-net is offering them! But, I’m not a new customer…
New customers are certainly getting a great deal. The problem is if any new players wanted to play GW2 they’d already be playing. Anet might be in for an exciting time.
This, especially in the wake of $10(ish) sales on the core GW2 game that IS NEEDED for the HoT expansion.
“Hey you didn’t buy the $10(ish) base game on sale to try out GW2 how about the $50 version!”
After reading the links here on the forums in regards to the required sales of the HoT expansion it is clear why the went the route they did.
Glad ArenaNet isn’t a car dealership.
You would have to rebuy your old car packaged with your new car.
You would have to rebuy your old car packaged with your new car.
I could quote myself… but KISS:
You can get the exact same. A brand new account including GW2 base Game and the Expansion on top. That is the exact same a new player gets and you can too.Having to start a brand new account, just to get the equal value for your purchase, is a penalty to most vets instead of an equal value.
The kicker and an issue I haven’t seen mentioned is my (and others) GW account is linked to my GW2 account.
Glad ArenaNet isn’t a car dealership.
You would have to rebuy your old car packaged with your new car.
You would have to rebuy your old car packaged with your new car.
Just because there’s a new profession doesn’t automatically make you eligible for a free character slot. Yes, you have to delete an already existing character or buy a new one for $10. That’s just how it is. And the new players don’t get any free character slots either. They get the same amount than everyone else the only difference being that they haven’t filled those slots yet but you can hardly blame them for that.
You are 100% correct, just because there’s a new profession does not automatically make you eligible for a free character slot. What does make me automatically eligible for this character slot is that I would be paying for it. One of the primary advertised selling points of HoT is the new profession. That is one of the primary reasons I would purchase HoT…to play the revenant. The problem is they want me to pay twice to play this new profession. They want me to pay for the game at the new customer pricing (who gets to play revenant with no additional costs) and pay for the additional character slot…just because I’m already a customer. That’s just either greed or poor design.