Guild Wars 2

Caithe stole the egg to heal the Pale Tree.

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

zwierz.9012:

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

And given how dragons and their minions work, it would be impossible to reach Mordremoth without remaining undetected, killing one’s way to, or becoming corrupted. And even then, it’s been stated dozens of times that the Elder Dragons simply do not care about the races – so why would any of them “trust” Caithe?

DarcShriek.5829:

zwierz.9012:

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

Fair enough, but to turn the scrutiny around, how would the egg possibly be able to help the Pale Tree?

Aaron Ansari.1604:

Fair enough, but to turn the scrutiny around, how would the egg possibly be able to help the Pale Tree?

Legendary cooking of course!

Dragon Egg Omulet
1 Glint’s Egg
1 Gift of Bacon
1 Gift of Fortune
1 Gift of Mastery

Double click to consume.

Nourishment (1hr)
+50 to all stats
+50% Magic Find
+10% damage vs dragon minions
-10% damage from dragon minions
+10 experience from kills

(infinite uses)

The Pale Tree will be up on her feet….er…. roots in no time with this hardy breakfast!

DarcShriek.5829:

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

I think she might, if F. would ask for proof of Caithe being on her side again, especially after TA dungeon story mode assuming Faolain trusts Caithe without question still is foolish.

If not her, then someone else – the identity of the baddie doesn’t matter anyway for my idea.

Also, how would the egg help Pale Tree? Or any other theory out there, other than Caithe being really hungry for an omelet and in a hurry before her frying pan gets cold, hence no time to explain?

EDIT for the mental image of Caithe bringing a hot steaming plate of dragon egg omelet to Pale Trying, saying “eat this, and you’ll be all better now, warm kitty, soft kitty little ball of fur – sleepy kitty, happy kitty purr purr purr”

Aaron Ansari.1604:

DarcShriek.5829:

zwierz.9012:

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

Fair enough, but to turn the scrutiny around, how would the egg possibly be able to help the Pale Tree?

Fair question. I don’t know if I can answer it sufficiently. I believe that my vision in Omadd’s machine hints that the Pale Tree is connected to the elder dragons. I believe this because the light we approached resembled the Pale Tree and when we came out the other side, the light was the center of the sphere representing Tyria. One of the globes flew into the Tyria sphere pretty hard.

Anyways, I believe there is powerful magic in the egg. This powerful magic will somehow be used to heal the pale tree. Maybe even allow the pale tree to fulfill the role of an elder dragon. I suspect the pale tree would somehow absorb the magic in the egg. Of course, I could be way wrong.

Anyways, suddenly I hungrey for a ham, bacon and sausage omelet. Gotta go.

Underdark.3726:

Is it possible that there is where the Asura made experiments on Malomedies? Maybe Caithe made some deal with the Asuras and that is why they didn’t seek revenge for the experiments which eventually lead Cadeyrn to found the Nightmare Court.

from the new trailer it seems I was right. :o
at least about the experiments

Just throwing out theories, but what if Caithe murdered all of Glint’s children, believing that they were future Kralk champions? It would definitely explain the “nasty strategy” that sylvari would look down on, and why she needed to steal the egg. She would have a special bias against Glint as well, since she played a part in the death of Snaff. Or the possibility that she took the egg to the pale tree to be cleansed.

I don’t know if this has already been discussed or not but I came across the following quote of Caithe which I found to be both interesting and relevant given today’s update:

Malyck is most interesting. His tale reminds me of some of my first discoveries when I began to explore Tyria.

Interesting. Surprised that has gone unmentioned until now.

I still don’t know what this so-called dark secret of Caithe is.

Killing the centaurs can’t be it. I don’t even consider that an act of “evil”. True, they were disrespectful, impatient and rude, but the centaurs started with the use of physical force.

Imagine someone you love dearly is being seperated from you, and it’s obvious a tribe of strangers is going to murder her/him. Would you sit by and let it happen?
No, that can’t be it. Also it wouldn’t make any sense. The Nightmare Court would be proud if they knew, Scarlet supposedly said. But considering it involved Faolain, they would already know. Also, Ceara wasn’t there.

I assume this secret will be revealed in the next LS chapter… or next season…

Others have already expressed this, but my best bet is that Caithe’s secret is Wynne’s secret, ‘something that could control all sylvari’, and that after learning it even she agreed Faolain should have known, either because of the nature of the knowledge or because of how far beyond reason Faolain ultimately prove willing to go to obtain it.

I think her secret is related to what happened in the past when she and Faolain went after Wynne. Whether she killed Wynne or Malyck or any other sylvari, I have a feeling that the nature of her secret is related to murder. As mentioned above, in the White Stag storyline, she murders a member of the Nightmare Court even after the PC asks for them to be set free. This demonstrates a ruthless and dark side to her that I think will play into the LS.
As for the egg, my theory is that she is hoping to hatch it. Her Wyld Hunt is to kill one of the Elder Dragons and in hatching that egg, I think she is hoping to take out the ED and fulfill her Wyld Hunt.

DarcShriek.5829:

Aaron Ansari.1604:

DarcShriek.5829:

zwierz.9012:

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

Fair enough, but to turn the scrutiny around, how would the egg possibly be able to help the Pale Tree?

Fair question. I don’t know if I can answer it sufficiently. I believe that my vision in Omadd’s machine hints that the Pale Tree is connected to the elder dragons. I believe this because the light we approached resembled the Pale Tree and when we came out the other side, the light was the center of the sphere representing Tyria. One of the globes flew into the Tyria sphere pretty hard.

Anyways, I believe there is powerful magic in the egg. This powerful magic will somehow be used to heal the pale tree. Maybe even allow the pale tree to fulfill the role of an elder dragon. I suspect the pale tree would somehow absorb the magic in the egg. Of course, I could be way wrong.

Anyways, suddenly I hungrey for a ham, bacon and sausage omelet. Gotta go.

That vision you’re referencing is actually described more accurately here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All

SheiyeSai.6037:

That vision you’re referencing is actually described more accurately here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All

Not at all, actually. That (entirely fan made) article doesn’t even mention the starting point of the vision that Darc was primarily referencing.

SheiyeSai.6037:

DarcShriek.5829:

Aaron Ansari.1604:

DarcShriek.5829:

zwierz.9012:

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

Fair enough, but to turn the scrutiny around, how would the egg possibly be able to help the Pale Tree?

Fair question. I don’t know if I can answer it sufficiently. I believe that my vision in Omadd’s machine hints that the Pale Tree is connected to the elder dragons. I believe this because the light we approached resembled the Pale Tree and when we came out the other side, the light was the center of the sphere representing Tyria. One of the globes flew into the Tyria sphere pretty hard.

Anyways, I believe there is powerful magic in the egg. This powerful magic will somehow be used to heal the pale tree. Maybe even allow the pale tree to fulfill the role of an elder dragon. I suspect the pale tree would somehow absorb the magic in the egg. Of course, I could be way wrong.

Anyways, suddenly I hungrey for a ham, bacon and sausage omelet. Gotta go.

That vision you’re referencing is actually described more accurately here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All

This is is the most exciting thing about it, don’t you think? That “Map of the All” tome described six spheres of power which orbit “Thyria” with “the push and pull of positive and negative”, and unfortunately “the world will tilt and all beings will fall off it into the void” when these spheres happen to be unstable. We are still not really sure what are these spheres, yes, but I just can’t stop, and relating each of them to elder dragons and by all means, we’ve killed Zhaitan.

Do you think should Zhaitan still alive, the shadow of Mordremoth would have had less chance or probably not be able to attack the pale tree as Zhaitan’s presence would negate Mordremoth domination? I mean, probably there are some other factors beyond the magic that Zhaitan had kept-but-now-released. Then the egg might be used to “absorb” the magic that has been unleashed by Zhaitan or maybe to restore balance in the antykitheria mechanism or something, because it said that the six orbs and the world have “primal symbiosis” which doesn’t sound bad to me? Although I wouldn’t have the confidence to say the dragon that will hatch, and if it will hatch, is going to be an elder dragon.

Either way, Caithe probably knows more. But surely she is incapable to directly restore her Mother’s consciousness with the egg ie. knocking her head with the egg.

SheiyeSai.6037:

As for the egg, my theory is that she is hoping to hatch it. Her Wyld Hunt is to kill one of the Elder Dragons and in hatching that egg, I think she is hoping to take out the ED and fulfill her Wyld Hunt.

Keep in mind though that her wyld hunt was to kill the Elder dragon Zhaitan….not just any elder dragon.

Unless it was like the sylvari PC’s Wyld Hunt: which has continued on to be Mordremoth after Zhaitan. Since a lot of the sylvari PS is about Caithe and the sylvari PC having the same Wyld Hunt, it’s possible that Caithe now feels a call to fight and kill Mordremoth.

Well at least after the recent episode we finally know what Caithe’s secret is:

Her secret is that she has really terrible peripheral vision, and even worse deductive reasoning.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Well at least after the recent episode we finally know what Caithe’s secret is:

Her secret is that she has really terrible peripheral vision, and even worse deductive reasoning.

That can’t be it because it seems like Faolain is very much aware of that.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

SheiyeSai.6037:

That vision you’re referencing is actually described more accurately here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All

Not at all, actually. That (entirely fan made) article doesn’t even mention the starting point of the vision that Darc was primarily referencing.

So you’re suggesting that a fan-made article (which makes up a significant portion of the GW2 Wiki btw) can’t possibly be relevant at all? Really?

Actually, what Aaron was saying is that the article I wrote (go ahead, check the article history) does not mention the beginning portion of the vision from Omadd’s machine. Which is correct – I only wrote about the last portion, and did not mention the portion where the Pale Tree acts as an entryway to seeing The All.

Which is where Darc gets a bit wrong: the light representing the Pale Tree doesn’t become the center of Tyria’s orb’s light – we pass by it completely. The Pale Tree is a barrier or gateway that was between us at the beginning of the vision and The All – and like how Scarlet pushed past the Pale Tree, so did we.