Guild Wars 2

I was trying to find any information about the charr-human peace treaty. We all know that the heart in Fields of Ruins still state to aid the treaty negotiations. However, it’s been sometime since those talks / discussions began. If I remember right, the treaty negotiations were underway before the year of 1325 when GW2 started( I think it the talks began in 1324 but I am unsure). I’m curious to know because it would affect several things in roleplay that have been going on of late. I would appreciate if any Lore Dev could comment or if anyone else was able offer insight. If people do step up to the plate, I do ask if you could offer evidence to your claim. I want to make sure I can present these findings to other people, should it be needed. Thank you, everyone for reading this and/or taking the time out of your day to help me!

it’s an ongoing thing. they keep talks and try to keep it stable, and a lot of society is already accepting of it, but too many humans and charrs are suspicious of each other, even if they’re not outright separatists.

Our timeframe for the talks is still stuck at the point it was at launch, so 1325. At that point, at least by the sound of it, they were still working on the preliminaries- trying to convince themselves and their races that this thing would work, basically. A few concessions- the charr pulled back from several of their positions closest to Ebonhawke, and the humans have been allowed to build settlements throughout the Fields of Ruin, and the legions and Ebon Vanguard were running joint exercises, but that’s pretty much the extent of what had happened at the time. As for the two years since then, we’ve heard a grand total of nothing, beyond that things were at the point that the charr were expected to send a representative to Jennah’s jubilee, suggesting that they were officially recognized as allies. Even that was almost a full year ago, though.

Being officially recognised as allies doesn’t mean the treaty is complete, though.

I think it’s at a stage where they’ve both agreed on the fundamentals enough that there’s not going to be anything coming up that causes the negotiations to return to “diplomacy by another means” short of a major political upset on either side. However, the details are still being worked out – certainly, as of about a year ago, the treaty negotiations were still a major focus of Jennah’s attention (it was mentioned in an interview as a reason why Jennah hasn’t asked the Pact about their long-term intentions regarding Orr).

It’s probably comparable to the gap between the 11/11/1918 armistice and the Treaty of Versailles – a resumption of hostilities was essentially unthinkable at that time, but it still took nearly a year to formalise things. And that was a situation with a clear winner – Germany was going to have to roll over and take whatever the Allies decided, so all the negotiations were basically just how hard that was going to be. In Ebonhawke’s case, there isn’t such a clear winner (it largely depends on whether you consider it to be the same conflict as the Searing, in which case Ascalon lost – but on the other hand, Ebonhawke and Kryta effectively won the followup conflict after the Foefire, albeit not decisively).

Another problem with syncing the Tyrian calendar with our own. It’s been almost two years since the treaty plot as we last saw it.

Maybe the coming plot dealing with a possible threat to Tyrian leaders will advance this one a little bit? Given how the biconics were written to have little to no racial prejudice at all, I wouldn’t be surprised.

The negotiation will become complete in an official handover of the Claw of Khan Ur to the charr. It’s the queens bait for the charr to finalize the treatment. It didn’t happen so far.