Guild Wars 2

To start, I love that the central theme of pretty much every adversary in the Guild Wars franchise is corruption. From the undead in prophecies to the afflicted in Cantha, demons in Elona, and destroyers in EotN.

When I was thinking about how expansions would work in GW2, I came to the conclusion that it absolutely can’t work the same way as in the first game. With the main story of GW2, and the living story being measured in years and having a static structure and timeline, you wouldn’t be able to make an Elonian character and do the main storyline with them, as that would break continuity. Instead, I figured that the expansions would have to work one of two ways:

ONE – by making the campaign of each expansion be completely separate from the main story, with only minor connections such as the dragons themselves;

and TWO – by having the expansions take place AFTER the events of GW2 and the living story, and all characters would originate from Tyria and visit the other continents; this would require that people finish the Zhaitan mission line for it to make sense, and probably mean that all areas introduced would be level 80 as a consequence.

So after those thoughts, I had a ton of ideas about the actual content that might be presented in those expansions, if they were ever released. Keep in mind that I haven’t scoured every bit of lore prior to posting this.

The campaigns could be released in the same order as before: Tyria > Cantha > Elona > EotN.

Cantha: After defeating one of Bubbles’ lieutenants, the protagonist and the pact make it to the isolated island of Cantha, where all hell is breaking loose. Minions of the water dragon would be the main adversary, with perhaps the Afflicted being a secondary enemy or the subject of a living story.

Elona: After doing a thing (yeah, a thing) in the Dragonbrand (perhaps the defeat of a revamped Shatterer), the protagonist crosses the crystal desert into Elona, where the crystal dragon is the primary foe, with Palawa Joko being a secondary villain (or, again, the subject of a living story) or a begrudging ally once again. My original thoughts about Elona were that undead could be introduced as a playable race, but my recent conclusion on the continuity issues make that an impossibility.

Eye of the North: After defeating Mordremoth at the climax of the living story, and Bubbles and Kralkatorrik at the climax of “Factions” and “Nightfall”, the final campaign should be focused on both Jormag and Primordius, the two dragons foreshadowed the most in the EotN story; it would involve several underground areas like before, and perhaps even a showdown with both dragons at the destroyed Eye of the North, which would be a pretty crazy awesome conclusion to what GW1’s protagonist started.

Any thoughts on these ideas? Feel free to post your own ideas and suggestions relating to other campaigns and living stories.

As an aside, I’d also love to see more references to the mursaat and seers in GW2, perhaps as the focus of a living story or something.

The Afflicted were, I believe, completely wiped out during Winds of Change (which was why we had to do the awful awful vanquishing of every single area with tons of afflicted).

FlamingFoxx.1305:

The Afflicted were, I believe, completely wiped out during Winds of Change (which was why we had to do the awful awful vanquishing of every single area with tons of afflicted).

Alright, I only got about halfway through Winds of Change because it was too hard for me to continue.

Currently, I think that if (and that’s still a big if) they do an expansion, it will actually be based between seasons of the Living World, probably using those seasons as build-up for the expansion’s plots.

For example, if the current rumoring of an expansion in progress is accurate, then the expansion will focus primarily on Mordremoth, using Seasons 1 and 2 as build-ins. And Season 3 will be based after the expansion.

Similar to Agents of Shield tv show and the current marvel movies – the tv show is based between the movies, and when the show begins to be based after a movie, there’s a notice saying that the following episodes take place after the events of <insert movie name here>.

This would also be a business ploy for obvious reasons if you care about proper storytelling and experiencing things in chronological order. If you want to understand the build-up, then you’ll have to buy (or remain playing) for the Living World; if you want to know the conclusions, you have to buy the expansions.

If they go with such a route – which currently to me seems to be the case (that or we’re not going to be killing Mordy until Season 5 which would just be utterly stupid) – then the future of plots I see is:

• S2 completes with confronting Caithe and re-obtaining the egg
• Expansion tells how we use the egg to save the world (at long last) and a final confrontation with Mordremoth
• S3 opens with a new plot that will at the very very end tie into the beginning campaign against the next dragon
• S4 said beginning campaign against said next dragon (basically Jormag/Kralk/Scleritethin/Primordus’ version of Claw Island and original greatest fear arcs of PS or E1-5 of S2), perhaps with a different focus akin to the egg.
• Expansion 2 will be the full campaign against said next dragon (effectively the other dragons’ version of assaulting Orr).

etc. etc. rinse repeat

Every dragon having their own expansion will get boring and repetitive really quickly. It’s not like we don’t already know how to kill them….

Konig Des Todes.2086:

If they go with such a route – which currently to me seems to be the case (that or we’re not going to be killing Mordy until Season 5 which would just be utterly stupid) – then the future of plots I see is:

• S2 completes with confronting Caithe and re-obtaining the egg
• Expansion tells how we use the egg to save the world (at long last) and a final confrontation with Mordremoth
• S3 opens with a new plot that will at the very very end tie into the beginning campaign against the next dragon
• S4 said beginning campaign against said next dragon (basically Jormag/Kralk/Scleritethin/Primordus’ version of Claw Island and original greatest fear arcs of PS or E1-5 of S2), perhaps with a different focus akin to the egg.
• Expansion 2 will be the full campaign against said next dragon (effectively the other dragons’ version of assaulting Orr).

etc. etc. rinse repeat

I wouldn’t be too disappointed with that, but I think that following the same formula would get pretty stale. I think that the expansions certainly need to reintroduce the other continents in order to allow some new interactions with the dragons and other possible adversaries. I want to see the Jade Sea and the Echovald Forest again, and to see what Palawa Joko’s done to Elona, and it would be amazing to have a mission or chain of missions where you have to fight two of the dragons at once.

Mada.5319:

Every dragon having their own expansion will get boring and repetitive really quickly. It’s not like we don’t already know how to kill them….

There are a lot of things they can put in the expansions besides the dragons to keep them interesting, but the single goal of ending the elder dragons is enough to drive people through many more missions. I know that I wasn’t satisfied killing just one of six.

@Herp

We’re done killing dragons. It does no good. They just get replaced with new ones. We have to find a different way to deal with them.

DarcShriek.5829:

@Herp

We’re done killing dragons. It does no good. They just get replaced with new ones. We have to find a different way to deal with them.

Well no. Technically we still need to kill them. We just need to find something to take their place (or at least that is the popular theory).
I don’t see what else we could do other than killing them. Forcing them to sleep just means someone else is going to have to deal with them in a couple thousand years time.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

DarcShriek.5829:

@Herp

We’re done killing dragons. It does no good. They just get replaced with new ones. We have to find a different way to deal with them.

Well no. Technically we still need to kill them. We just need to find something to take their place (or at least that is the popular theory).
I don’t see what else we could do other than killing them. Forcing them to sleep just means someone else is going to have to deal with them in a couple thousand years time.

No, we don’t need to kill them. We just need to keep the magic levels under control. We can put them to sleep and keep them there indefinitely buy controlling magic levels.

Mada.5319:

Every dragon having their own expansion will get boring and repetitive really quickly. It’s not like we don’t already know how to kill them….

I was using dragons as an example, but it’d really be:

Odd Season: Minor-major enemy (e.g., Scarlet, Khilbron, Shiro, Varesh, Gaheron, Caudecus, Kudu, Faolain type enemies)
Even Season: Lead up to major enemy (e.g., no major enemy, maybe just a lieutenant/general of them; e.g., Shadow of the Dragon, Blightghast the Plaguebringer)
Expansion: Major enemy (e.g., Elder Dragons, Palawa Joko, Dhuum, Menzies, Xenophobic Emperor #26401, etc.)

rinse repeat

DarcShriek.5829:

No, we don’t need to kill them. We just need to keep the magic levels under control. We can put them to sleep and keep them there indefinitely buy controlling magic levels.

Theoretically, but come on, that makes for a terrible Anet plot.

“We’ll just survive, maybe try to put them to sleep early, and then figure out how to permanently regulate magic on our own in the next 10,000 years.”

DarcShriek.5829:

No, we don’t need to kill them. We just need to keep the magic levels under control. We can put them to sleep and keep them there indefinitely buy controlling magic levels.

Worst. Environmental parable. Ever.

“Monsters are awakening because there is too much oil in the world! We have to burn copious amounts to put them back to sleep!”

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Currently, I think that if (and that’s still a big if) they do an expansion, it will actually be based between seasons of the Living World, probably using those seasons as build-up for the expansion’s plots.

For example, if the current rumoring of an expansion in progress is accurate, then the expansion will focus primarily on Mordremoth, using Seasons 1 and 2 as build-ins. And Season 3 will be based after the expansion.

Just my thinking too; if there is an expansion coming, it’s to deal with Mordremoth as I definitely don’t see us dealing with him at the end of next/final episode of LS2.

And I doubt Anet are going into LS3 without something coming in between – and the acceptable answer to what is to come between is neither Wintersday or yet another PvP/WvW tournament…

Konig Des Todes.2086:

S4 said beginning campaign against said next dragon (basically Jormag/Kralk/Scleritethin/Primordus’ version of Claw Island and original greatest fear arcs of PS or E1-5 of S2), perhaps with a different focus akin to the egg.

…you what now? Scleritethin, I’ve missed out on this discussion of the DSD… is there a link to naming discussion and is this the name or what you hypothesize is the name?

Not critique, it was just the first time I saw it and now I’m curious!

DarcShriek.5829:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

DarcShriek.5829:

@Herp

We’re done killing dragons. It does no good. They just get replaced with new ones. We have to find a different way to deal with them.

Well no. Technically we still need to kill them. We just need to find something to take their place (or at least that is the popular theory).
I don’t see what else we could do other than killing them. Forcing them to sleep just means someone else is going to have to deal with them in a couple thousand years time.

No, we don’t need to kill them. We just need to keep the magic levels under control. We can put them to sleep and keep them there indefinitely buy controlling magic levels.

Not necessarily. It depends on rather the dragons wake at a certain level of ambient magic, once they’ve lost a certain level of magic, or simply on a timer. At this point we can’t say for sure which it is, and any but the first wouldn’t be changed by a bloodstone-esque regulation scheme.

@Dondarrion It’s Konig’s best guess. All we know from the game is that it probably starts with an S, and a Priory historian has said even that could be a mistranslation.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

@Dondarrion It’s Konig’s best guess. All we know from the game is that it probably starts with an S, and a Priory historian has said even that could be a mistranslation.

Good; was just curious if I’d missed out on some important bit of lore reveal pointing towards this.
Nothing wrong with good guesses though; it beats Steve at least, maybe not in humour but thematically

FlamingFoxx.1305:

I don’t see what else we could do other than killing them. Forcing them to sleep just means someone else is going to have to deal with them in a couple thousand years time.

Would that be such a problem really?

Unless the races kill each other off in some large scale world war or disaster, which is entirely possible either way without a constant ED threat, those societies would have thousands of years to advance and prepare themselves against the Elder Dragons at that point. Next time they would wake up, the Asura or Charr could probably simply snipe them from space with a satellite equipped with a high powered megalaser, and all they would have to do after that is replace it with a carefully selected being/dragon/Bloodstone/whatever.

Dondarrion.2748:

…you what now? Scleritethin, I’ve missed out on this discussion of the DSD… is there a link to naming discussion and is this the name or what you hypothesize is the name?

Not critique, it was just the first time I saw it and now I’m curious!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/lore/lore/Name-the-mystery-dragon/4523179

Basically a joke name using the Sclerite weapons, which have been speculated to be tied to the DSD, and reverse engineering the dragon’s name using a Mordrem->Mordremoth concept.

It surprisingly fits, on both accounts, even if it is a joke on the terrible name that is “mordrem”.

Though originally it was to be Scleritefin. Because Sclerite am is shells (effectively) and a fish fin… But that seemed silly so f to th.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

@Dondarrion It’s Konig’s best guess. All we know from the game is that it probably starts with an S, and a Priory historian has said even that could be a mistranslation.

Actually, it’s just a joke guess.

If I were to guess seriously, I would say it’s an international misspelling/respelling of Scylla from Greek mythos. Just as Zhaitan and Jormag are such for other mythos.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

If I were to guess seriously, I would say it’s an international misspelling/respelling of Scylla from Greek mythos. Just as Zhaitan and Jormag are such for other mythos.

So… Scully?

I still think we should meet Menzies again.

“Again”? We never met the guy, afaik.

I was actually thinking this (beware, mostly wishfull thinking):
(This does not include “substories”)

Season 2: Heading towards Mordremoth with the Pact and geting utterly wasted.

Season 3: Gathering the united continent army (UCA) for a rematch which ends with the defeat of Mordremoth

Expansion: With the pact broken and the UC loosing to many capable fighters, we are send out to another continent to gain allies.

Cantha
With Zaithan gone we try to travel to the lands of Cantha in search of allies.
Unfortunatly the empire is still walled of against any non-humans, causing us and the diplomat group to try another way. Maybe with the help of rebels, who try to ursup the emperor…
Of course they have their own bubbly dragon problem…

or

Elona
Let`s go to the crystal desert. Meet new undead, flying carpets, ride the Sandworm (and look for spice) and play with palawa Joko…. (yeah, never thought so much about that area, since I thought we enter the crystal desert anyway in the near future)
Kalkratorik and his branded will play with us too, giving us a new reason to call it crystal desert.

Season 4: Aftermath of the first continent. More exploration and shuffling of army forces towards the new defensive borders.
looking into open qustons of the new and old areas…

Season 5: emerging of a new eminent thread (next ED)

Season 6: Tyria overrun by two EDs at once (Flame and Frost part 2, now with more Dragons maybe (Jormag and Primordus), decimating the new alliance again…

Expansion 2: The other continent…. and the other dragon

Season 7: Towards uncharted lands…

Season 8: New continent exploration, this time, season style…

Expansion 3: Freeing the north…

I don`t know. I always felt we should fight Primordus as the last dragon.
He was the first we ever saw and he lives underground, maybe even the core of Tyria.
I won`t proclaim a hollow earth theory, but fighting him at the centre of the world is just sounds epic for me.

I think it would be awesome to see what the luxons have done with their jade sea. maybe carved an entire city into it.

Or how the kurzicks stone forest looks after 250 years of weathering. maybe the kurzicks could of became nomad like, while the luxon are more noble like with their city of jade.

Brandon.8294:

I think it would be awesome to see what the luxons have done with their jade sea. maybe carved an entire city into it.

Or how the kurzicks stone forest looks after 250 years of weathering. maybe the kurzicks could of became nomad like, while the luxon are more noble like with their city of jade.

Sadly both of them were forcibly swallowed by the Emperor’s forces and no longer exist on their own (not to say it’s impossible for a few “freedom fighters” to still live in the outskirts.

And the jade sea was supposedly melting and the forest coming back to life if i recal correctly, though i’m not 100% on this part.

Brandon.8294:

I think it would be awesome to see what the luxons have done with their jade sea. maybe carved an entire city into it.

Or how the kurzicks stone forest looks after 250 years of weathering. maybe the kurzicks could of became nomad like, while the luxon are more noble like with their city of jade.

if im not wrong the jade sea is supposed to become ater again and the stone forrest, becomes normal again.
I am sure their curse was lifted

Jaken.6801:

Brandon.8294:

I think it would be awesome to see what the luxons have done with their jade sea. maybe carved an entire city into it.

Or how the kurzicks stone forest looks after 250 years of weathering. maybe the kurzicks could of became nomad like, while the luxon are more noble like with their city of jade.

if im not wrong the jade sea is supposed to become ater again and the stone forrest, becomes normal again.
I am sure their curse was lifted

I’m skeptical about the Jade Sea thawing. Even in the EotN manual it was presented as mere hearsay, and the priory has a block of jade, complete with frozen creature, in their vault.

Which could be held in stasis for study reasons.

However thats why I said I am not sure.
I think it is supposed to be a slow process, but a bit might have happened.

oh it wasnt permanent? thats ashame.

it was sort of kurzicks and luxons identities for the player. i guess the kurzicks and luxons themselves didnt see it that way

Whether the Jade Sea thawed or not us unknown. In the world map, there is no sea where the Jade Sea was so it may have remained solid.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Whether the Jade Sea thawed or not us unknown. In the world map, there is no sea where the Jade Sea was so it may have remained solid.

Though we have to ask how up to date said map is, since as far as we know the contact to the empire is not easy at the moment.
Though then again, the OoW might have their ways.

Northern Cantha has become flooded, Shing Jea is land-bridged to the mainland.

Seems Cantha’s up to date at least as of Zhaitan’s rise (most likely reason for said flooding).

How about the demons in the Deep?

They better fix the pacing because it feels like those dragons, waiting gently in line, may take about next 15 years to be slain (if we assume that there will be an expansion every 3 years).

If World of Warcraft had followed similar cycle of development we would be stuck in the middle of Burning Crusade now, I guess.

I just can’t see the Dragons as expansions. Sorry, but poor lizards stuck in queue, which moves every couple years?

“Brave heroes! Tyria needs you again! Gather your children and let us chkitten which dragon will be the next! By the way, shoutouts to lizardy leftovers! Thank you for being gentle and doing absolutely nothing over the past 11 years!”

Hrrr……hrr……. I hope hybernation works legit…hrrr…

Rym.1469:

They better fix the pacing because it feels like those dragons, waiting gently in line, may take about next 15 years to be slain (if we assume that there will be an expansion every 3 years).

If World of Warcraft had followed similar cycle of development we would be stuck in the middle of Burning Crusade now, I guess.

I just can’t see the Dragons as expansions. Sorry, but poor lizards stuck in queue, which moves every couple years?

“Brave heroes! Tyria needs you again! Gather your children and let us chkitten which dragon will be the next! By the way, shoutouts to lizardy leftovers! Thank you for being gentle and doing absolutely nothing over the past 11 years!”

Hrrr……hrr……. I hope hybernation works legit…hrrr…

DSD was logical to be quiet, Primordus’ Destroyers seems to be less threatening than GW1 due to the dwarves’ effort. Kralkatorrik is still recovering from the wound. I think the only one should be killed ASAP is Jormag.

Maybe Kralatorrik would try to affect Elona through the desert.

Correct me if I’m wrong… but Kralkatorrik was never actually wounded, was he?

He was, but superfitially. Glint did pierce skin. And he did crash.

Though I think the shock of nearly being killed by 6 puny mortals – even having his mind overpowered by one, leading to his body being controlled by said one – would be a bigger shock to the system than any physical wound.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

He was, but superfitially. Glint did pierce skin. And he did crash.

Though I think the shock of nearly being killed by 6 puny mortals – even having his mind overpowered by one, leading to his body being controlled by said one – would be a bigger shock to the system than any physical wound.

Likely. Yet an Elder Dragon doesn’t strike me as the sort to cower in a corner for seven years because its expectations were overturned. So, Slowpoke, coming out with superficial cuts, possibly some bruising (if anything had been broken or even sprained it seems unlikely he’d have been capable of launching himself back into the air), and an unpleasant surprise… I suspect Kralkatorrik is back in fighting form long since, if indeed he ever left it.

People seem to think he fled, but he accomplished his objective, and killed the ant that could mess around in his head in the bargain.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

He was, but superfitially. Glint did pierce skin. And he did crash.

Though I think the shock of nearly being killed by 6 puny mortals – even having his mind overpowered by one, leading to his body being controlled by said one – would be a bigger shock to the system than any physical wound.

Likely. Yet an Elder Dragon doesn’t strike me as the sort to cower in a corner for seven years because its expectations were overturned. So, Slowpoke, coming out with superficial cuts, possibly some bruising (if anything had been broken or even sprained it seems unlikely he’d have been capable of launching himself back into the air), and an unpleasant surprise… I suspect Kralkatorrik is back in fighting form long since, if indeed he ever left it.

People seem to think he fled, but he accomplished his objective, and killed the ant that could mess around in his head in the bargain.

He might be the key to connect Tyria and Elona in story.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

Likely. Yet an Elder Dragon doesn’t strike me as the sort to cower in a corner for seven years because its expectations were overturned. So, Slowpoke, coming out with superficial cuts, possibly some bruising (if anything had been broken or even sprained it seems unlikely he’d have been capable of launching himself back into the air), and an unpleasant surprise… I suspect Kralkatorrik is back in fighting form long since, if indeed he ever left it.

People seem to think he fled, but he accomplished his objective, and killed the ant that could mess around in his head in the bargain.

I’m hoping the writers have Kralk show a bit more intelligence and maybe a scheming nature when we finally get around to him. DE showed him that the ants are very much a threat to his person…er….(Elder) dragonhood. He might have killed the ant that took control of his mind, but what’s stopping the numerous other ants from trying to follow its lead?

Plus, if he’s keeping tabs on the state of the other Elder Dragons, the death of Zhaitan and Mordremoth (in a couple of LS seasons or new expansion (whatever they’re going with)) proves this point loud in clear. An Elder Dragon makes a nuisance of itself, and the ants are going to rise up and kill them. It might take a different strategy for it to survive.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

He was, but superfitially. Glint did pierce skin. And he did crash.

Though I think the shock of nearly being killed by 6 puny mortals – even having his mind overpowered by one, leading to his body being controlled by said one – would be a bigger shock to the system than any physical wound.

Likely. Yet an Elder Dragon doesn’t strike me as the sort to cower in a corner for seven years because its expectations were overturned. So, Slowpoke, coming out with superficial cuts, possibly some bruising (if anything had been broken or even sprained it seems unlikely he’d have been capable of launching himself back into the air), and an unpleasant surprise… I suspect Kralkatorrik is back in fighting form long since, if indeed he ever left it.

People seem to think he fled, but he accomplished his objective, and killed the ant that could mess around in his head in the bargain.

My edit didn’t get through.

I continued, or tried, by saying that most likely Kralkatorrik is lying in wait, gathering magic to become stronger. He is currently the only Dragon who didn’t have magic to consume – no equivalent of the Great Destroyer or Drakkar given Glint’s betrayal, and no ley line power boost like Mordremoth. And unlike even Zhaitan, had no time to consume local magic.

And in the end, ArenaNet is trying (albeit failing) to present the Elder Dragons as animalistic predators, rather than sapient, thinking, entities that their minions and the books (especially Edge of Destiny) present them as.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

And in the end, ArenaNet is trying (albeit failing) to present the Elder Dragons as animalistic predators, rather than sapient, thinking, entities that their minions and the books (especially Edge of Destiny) present them as.

And this is the biggest mistake they’re making.

If Mordremoth is said to control minds and be savage why can’t he become draconic version of Hannibal Lecter from “The Silence of the Lambs”?. I mean, hunting an animal is just that – hunting.

But going after very intelligent villian is a game both sides play.

#Anthony#Hopkins#for#Mordremoth#Voiceover !

Rym.1469:

And this is the biggest mistake they’re making.

If Mordremoth is said to control minds and be savage why can’t he become draconic version of Hannibal Lecter from “The Silence of the Lambs”?. I mean, hunting an animal is just that – hunting.

But going after very intelligent villian is a game both sides play.

#Anthony#Hopkins#for#Mordremoth#Voiceover !

Because hunting, and the predator/prey dynamic as a whole, is different when you’re the same size as your prey versus you being over 100 feet tall and outclass your prey in every way.

As he’s sitting on Elona’s doorstep, it’s possible that conflict with Palawa Joko is consuming Kralkatorrik’s attention and, conversely, that the presence of the dragon has been a factor in preventing him from expanding his empire westward.

After Mordremoth, my feeling is the next arc would either take us to Elona, or else have us caught between Primordus and Jormag.

@Rym: They only go only about the ED being “apex predators” and “forces of nature” and “uncaring about the ‘ants’” in very brief lines. They avoid going in depth on the nature of the Elder Dragons. This points to me that they want it a big reveal what their true nature is. I think we’ve already hit that nail on the head via the dragons’ and minions’ actions and presented personas despite this. Because despite their outright claims, their stories tell a different tale.

And out of game sources are “malleable” after all.

PeterFries.1057:

Not to derail this conversation, but here’s a peek behind the curtain: when I was coming up with a name for the creepy weapon set created for our ‘Secret of Southsun’ release, I was looking for a term that would evoke ancient sea creatures and also the disturbing eyes on these weapon skins and decided to reference the Greek root skleros, which means “hard, cruel, fierce.”

The word for the white portion of our eyes, sclera, comes from this root, as does the biological term sclerite, the hardened portion of an arthopod exoskeleton.

Sorry—continue speculating!

The etymology buff in me loves everything about what you just posted.

PeterFries.1057:

Not to derail this conversation, but here’s a peek behind the curtain: when I was coming up with a name for the creepy weapon set created for our ‘Secret of Southsun’ release, I was looking for a term that would evoke ancient sea creatures and also the disturbing eyes on these weapon skins and decided to reference the Greek root skleros, which means “hard, cruel, fierce.”

The word for the white portion of our eyes, sclera, comes from this root, as does the biological term sclerite, the hardened portion of an arthopod exoskeleton.

Sorry—continue speculating!

Don’t be sorry. We love this behind the curtain stuff.

The name still fits with possible DSD minion names since dragon minions are named after a defining factor of their appearance or actions. They just need to be hard, cruel, and fierce.

The Deep Sea Dragon has an S in his name and since *S*hing Jea Island must be named after something so I would assume his name is Shing Jea…..

What’s more I think his corruption involves lillies(why else do Shing Jea’s Dragon Lilies look like Dragons) and vine-like tentacles.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

The Deep Sea Dragon has an S in his name and since *S*hing Jea Island must be named after something so I would assume his name is Shing Jea…..

What’s more I think his corruption involves lillies(why else do Shing Jea’s Dragon Lilies look like Dragons) and vine-like tentacles.

Iirc, Shing Jea is Canthan. It translates to “Shining Jewel” – Shing Jea Island is named such as it is the shining jewel of Cantha.
Shing=Shining
Jea=Jewel

Edit: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shing_Jea_Monastery “As the ancient Canthan name implies, Shing Jea is the jewel of Cantha.”

So by your theory, the DSD’s name is… Jewel.

Well I hope that they don’t proceed to do the Living Story after the release of an expansion. The pacing is really annoying in my opinion. I can’t stand pushing the story for one day and doing something else for the next two weeks. It would also prevent some design decisions I can’t agree with, like painting Faolain the way they did this episode. They overdrawed her character way too hard to be convincing.
A good story, even if it doesn’t last very long, would make me more happy than splitting it appart like they do now.

PeterFries.1057:

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I would like to know if the unrevealed world map resembles the actual map of Tyria.
In the unrevealed version of Dry Top we could see a ring we can’t see in Dry Top by any means. The unrevealed map of the Silverwastes indicates a huge lake we can’t see in the final map. Do the revealed and unrevealed map still fit together or is the unrevealed map outdated?

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Shinki.8045:

The etymology buff in me loves everything about what you just posted.

Here’s another: tera (Greek, monster) + griff (short for griffin) = “stabby cat”

Gdi and here I thought it was Tera (alternate spelling of Terra, earth) + griff (German for grasp/hold/etc)

Mord’s minions appear from earth after all and he has a liking for strangling …stuff. So close yet so far :P