Guild Wars 2

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Mind linking the litters bit because I’ve only seen mention of single child births, such as The Legions of the Charr blog post (on gw2w), not litters.

Found it today. Turosa Heartsister, NPC in Bane (Black Citadel arena), dialog about her warband.

Hm… it sounds to me like “litter” is being used there as synonymous with sibling.

All giving the sword up would do is give up a bargaining chip . Kryta gains more by not freeing up that front so why would they ?On top of that it puts queen Jenna at high risk of getting killed for a legend which makes no sense

Aaron Ansari.1604:

Hm… it sounds to me like “litter” is being used there as synonymous with sibling.

Cubs from one litter → siblings.

Sohothin belongs to Human Ascalon. Thus if anything it should be returned to the Duke of Ebonhawke, Lord Samuelsson.

Not to the Krytan Queen.

Could the sohothin used in ring of fire during gw1 have been a replica while the real one was safely stored elsewhere. You don’t bring your valuables to dangerous areas.

I would say a magical object like Sohothin could easily have survived the eruption of the Abaddon’s Mouth. The real question is how it went from being there to in the hands of Rytlock.

Somehow i think this question relates to Lydia finding the Scepter of Orr, as both were supposed to be on the Ring of Fire when it erupted. We saw the Scepter levitate then disappear before that happened. Maybe Sohothin did the same?

They are both orrian artifacts… Not that i imply that being an orrian artifact would guarantee that it teleports away from an erupting vulcano, just because… But i have no better idea. Charr should have no access to the Ring of Fire anywhere between the end of Prophecies and Rythlock getting the sword.

Warning: Spoilers from GW1
We don’t know all that Rytlock has been through. We don’t know how he came to get Sohothin, since last it was seen was in the Fire Isles with the Undead Rurik. The isles should have sunk from GW1 and the sword may have gone with it. If that was not Sohothin and was a copy of Sohothin, than the real one would have been in the Shiver Peaks when Rurik died the first time. Some how Rytlock got it, and I would assume the way he got it is part of the reason we never hear about the rest of his warband.

My guess, Rytlock has some attachment to Sohothin, even if it were just a spoil of war.

Fafnir.5124:

Could the sohothin used in ring of fire during gw1 have been a replica while the real one was safely stored elsewhere. You don’t bring your valuables to dangerous areas.

No it was Rurik’s sword . After Rurik was killed by Dagnar Stonepate at the Frost Gate the Lich reanimated him in the ring of fire during the finial mission . The Volcano there however erupts shortly after you leave so where the sword went from there is anyone’s guess .

That there my friend is yet another Lore Blackhole. The core heros and heroines: Mhenlo, Devona, Cynn, Aidan, Eve and Gwen who would all have followed our avatar to defeat the Lich and the zombie Rurik would have known of the importance of Sohothin.

On defeating both Rurik and the Lich they would have recovered it and ensured its return to their King – Adelbern. This calls into question as to why the Forefire would ever occur.

Also with Sohothin back in the hands of the Ascalonian King he would have the authority to recall all who had followed Rurik – at the very least he would have been able to slow the exodus of his people to Kryta.

Why would they know of Sohothin? Our character didn’t. It seems that the powers of the swords were only known to the royal family. And how would having Sohothin prevent the Foefire or the Ascalonian Exodus? Neither had anything to do with that sword.

Sohothin is known throughout Ascalon City as the sword of Human Ascalon’s Champion. Rurik was that champion as well as being its Crown Prince and next in line to the throne.

Our avatar may not have known but Devona and the members of the party would and did know (please refer to my previous posts). It is enough to say that the heros and heroines of the Flameseeker Prophecies campaign would all collectively along side the Ebon Vanguard from the Eye of the North supported the claim Adelbern would have made:

Their fallen Prince’s dying wish is the security of Ascalon City.

Nicholas S Lin.6187:

That there my friend is yet another Lore Blackhole. The core heros and heroines: Mhenlo, Devona, Cynn, Aidan, Eve and Gwen who would all have followed our avatar to defeat the Lich and the zombie Rurik would have known of the importance of Sohothin.

On defeating both Rurik and the Lich they would have recovered it and ensured its return to their King – Adelbern. This calls into question as to why the Forefire would ever occur.

Also with Sohothin back in the hands of the Ascalonian King he would have the authority to recall all who had followed Rurik – at the very least he would have been able to slow the exodus of his people to Kryta.

First of all Gwen was not there, at this time she was still a prisoner of the Charr. Secondly after you kill Rurik you fight the Lich, then the volcano blows. You or anyone else would not have the time to back track to get the sword.

Nicholas S Lin.6187:

Sohothin is known throughout Ascalon City as the sword of Human Ascalon’s Champion. Rurik was that champion as well as being its Crown Prince and next in line to the throne.

Our avatar may not have known but Devona and the members of the party would and did know (please refer to my previous posts). It is enough to say that the heros and heroines of the Flameseeker Prophecies campaign would all collectively along side the Ebon Vanguard from the Eye of the North supported the claim Adelbern would have made:

Their fallen Prince’s dying wish is the security of Ascalon City.

Adelbern renounces Rurick, and says he has no son. As far as he sees it, they have turned there back an Ascalon. I’m not saying he would not greave for his son, but the hero’s of the flame seeker prophecies end up in cantha not long after. There is no evidence they returned to Ascalon at all. If they did the story shows it would not have been till after the events of EoTN, or even the recalling of the Ebon Vanguard. Also it was not the security of Ascalon Rurick sort, but the safety of its people.

It appears to me you are leaving out story content in favor of your own theory.

By saying that sword needs to be in the hands of the next heir to the throne of Ascalon in order to clean out the ghost from there (Which is a legend told in the game). We need to narrow down who would be the next heir. Duke Samuelson states he is the true heir to the throne, but how is he? Aldebern was a direct descendant of King Doric due to blood line Now here’s the problem Aldebrens blood line stops with Ruirk and as far as anyone knows, the young prince had no heirs. People argue that it has to be Queen Jennah as she is of the same blood, but this wouldn’t make sense as she is not a “heir to Ascalon royalty”. Which only leaves one option, which would be Duke Barradin’s blood line.
Before you start a flame war on me, this quote is pulled from the GW1 wiki, “Duke Barradin was the next heir to the throne before Adelbern was crowned and, as such, some of his supporters were not happy when a soldier was named instead.”. With this in mind, is Duke Samuelson a direct descendant of Barradin, who was the rightful heir to the throne of Ascalon. If he is, how is he related?
Next subject is that of the sword Sohothin as it was last seen in the Ring of Fire, which brings the question of how it made it’s way back to Ascalon? Or it asks us to question whether or not that the blade Rytlock holds is really Sohothin. Too me there is still much time to recon this part of the lore to fit in with the first game at least a little bit.

There could be a simple explanation of how Rytolck got the sword or an epic tale to rival that of the One Ring. Either way, it just hasn’t been written yet.

Because this sword is acc bound,so Rytlock cant give this Jenna.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Adelbern renounces Rurick, and says he has no son. As far as he sees it, they have turned there back an Ascalon. I’m not saying he would not greave for his son, but the hero’s of the flame seeker prophecies end up in cantha not long after. There is no evidence they returned to Ascalon at all. If they did the story shows it would not have been till after the events of EoTN, or even the recalling of the Ebon Vanguard. Also it was not the security of Ascalon Rurick sort, but the safety of its people.

It appears to me you are leaving out story content in favor of your own theory.

This Isn’t entirely true . You return to the the great northern wall during the Last Day Dawns quest to fend off the Titans and save Adleburn . Much the same way you defend North Kryta Province , Henge of Denravi and and Droknars Forge (oddly you defend Droks from mineral springs )

Adine.2184:

BrotherBelial.3094:

Adelbern renounces Rurick, and says he has no son. As far as he sees it, they have turned there back an Ascalon. I’m not saying he would not greave for his son, but the hero’s of the flame seeker prophecies end up in cantha not long after. There is no evidence they returned to Ascalon at all. If they did the story shows it would not have been till after the events of EoTN, or even the recalling of the Ebon Vanguard. Also it was not the security of Ascalon Rurick sort, but the safety of its people.

It appears to me you are leaving out story content in favor of your own theory.

This Isn’t entirely true . You return to the the great northern wall during the Last Day Dawns quest to fend off the Titans and save Adleburn . Much the same way you defend North Kryta Province , Henge of Denravi and and Droknars Forge (oddly you defend Droks from mineral springs )

I never did those quests. Could never find a group to do them. Then by the time you could have a party with hero’s I’d forgotten all about them. Still, Devona and co are not part of the quests are they?

They could be taken for some of them yes . Certainly DDF

Adine.2184:

They could be taken for some of them yes . Certainly DDF

Yes they could be. But that would be because they are selectable dew to story resins over the Titan quests.