Guild Wars 2

I was just thinking at my computer when i realized that each of the human gods have a key relation with a elder dragon and that each of them could be one of the elder dragons, i’m no guild wars lore master so i don’t even know if this is possible but just curious of the possibility.

Grenth – Jormag
Balthazar – Primordus
Lyssa – Kralkatorrik
Melandru – Mordremoth
Dwayna – (Deep Sea Dragon)
Abaddon – ?, Zhaitan or (Deep Sea Dragon)
Abaddon’s unnamed predecessor – Zhaitan
Dhuum – ??? or Zhaitan

This is one of the topics that has been kinda discussed to death. I would suggest using the “Search this Forum” tool too look up the other threads.

Most certainly wrong, also you are atleast the 50th person to post this theory. Like Erukk said, use the search function.

Well, it’s the first time I hear about it, so thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Another one? I guess search stopped functioning. >.>

There’s NOTHING that links Dwayna to ANY elder dragon. You cannot count both Grenth and Dhuum, and yet both Abaddon and Abaddon’s predecessor but not Kormir. You have to chose either the most recent or original pantheon. If you go with most recent: Grenth counts for two, Dwayna and Kormir are left without a dragon. If you go with the original: Jormag’s without a god, Dwayna’s without a dragon, and we don’t know if Abaddon’s predecessor and the DSD link up.

Just so you know the gods are not forcibly tied to elements. It changes all the time. Dhuum never had ice – it was initiated into the pantheon when Grenth became a god, as he had ice even has a half-god. Similarly, when Abaddon was killed, Lyssa took up water rather than it going to Kormir. This means that the Six Gods’ and the six Elder Dragons’ both having ties to elements of nature is purely coincidental.

Furthermore, we’re explicitly told in-game that Grenth is 1) still alive and 2) an enemy of Zhaitan. Along with this, the Rises Priests and Priestesses explicitly state that Dwayna, Lyssa, Grenth, and, iirc, Melandru are different from Zhaitan.

Not only this, but Dwayna, Balthazar, and Melandru come from another world – yet the Elder Dragons have always been on Tyria (aka never left it). Thus we know that the Six Gods are not Elder Dragons.

The only relation the Six Gods and Elder Dragons have is that the Six Gods tapped into Zhaitan’s power – and only Zhaitan’s power – when they were tampering with the Bloodstone in 1 BE, to strengthen it. What they did specifically is unknown.

One way to look at this is:

The gods have connections to the elements, but the core of their being are the principles they stand for: Life, War, Nature, Death, Art, Knowledge (and Sorrow in the case of Grenth before he took Dhuum’s place). The elements they take are chosen due to being associated in some way with their core principle, and as Konig noted, can change when another god takes the mantle and views it from another perspective.

Those dragons with elemental connections, though, seem to have them as being part of the core of their being.