Guild Wars 2

1) I believe that teleportion lab can only sent in one guy at a time, with a huge cooldown period. It will take forever to sent in a team of engineers inside that way. And how about the supplies, tools and equipments needed for the repair? The most obvious method is to walk up to the entrance outside and fix it.

More importantly, it was the outside gate that got bombed. They cannot fix it from the inside (that one aren’t even broken).

You question was "How can they be so effective against much larger, far more organized ‘bad guy’ factions. Have you seen the Crucible of Eternity or the other large Inquest labs? "

I gave you an answer to how a smaller force have no problem destroying the whole CoE. This directly answers your question.

So please don’t turn around and say “But it is better if CoE was never destroyed in the first place, so we can gather intelligence!”

If you want to gather intelligence inside CoE, the Dark Knights can use spies. But that wasn’t your original question.

2) I already stated in my scenario that centaur deaths will far far far outnumber the human deaths. The Dark Knights did consider the extent of the damage, and yet choose to carry on with that plan for good reasons.

Maybe that river doesn’t lead to any major human settlements. Instead it leads deep into centaur territory. Maybe the poison’s affects wears off as it gets washed down river, so the people will only feel sick but won’t die. etc etc.

You cannot turn around and say that I “failing to understand the true extent of the damage would be.” It is my scenario, and it isn’t up to you to change it. That’s like the story writer say “Dumbo can fly”, and you turn around and say “No he can’t.”

All these factions might want to come after the Dark Knights. But finding them will be difficult. And then they see in plain sight all these red mobs who are direct threats . What’s the priority here?

3) Again it isn’t up to you to change my scenario. I stated that the Dark Knights will surrender without a fight to the Pact, or commit suicide to protect their secrets. You cannot turn around and say “No they won’t.”

I do think that I had spoken enough on this whole idea. Anet should have a decent idea of it by now.

CHIPS.6018:

It is my scenario, and it isn’t up to you to change it. That’s like the story writer say “Dumbo can fly”, and you turn around and say “No he can’t.”

3) Again it isn’t up to you to change my scenario. I stated that the Dark Knights will surrender without a fight to the Pact, or commit suicide to protect their secrets. You cannot turn around and say “No they won’t.”

I agree so much with this that I’m giddy.

I do not mean to ‘change’ your scenario.

What I mean to do is show how even the best intended plans can backfire. It’s important to understand these elements. Maybe I worded it wrong, but I intended to go more like this.

“The poison the centaur water supply, all centaurs die but most prisoners live. everybody lives happily ever after with some precautions done by anybody downstream.”

Yes… but it could (depending on the poison and amount of it) cause the village downstream to be wiped out or forced to relocate.

If the centaurs give the humans something to drink, it’d be from the same well, meaning most would die.

It’s constructive criticism, meant to show how things might not go perfectly, or to raise questions so you can improve.

“If the water source is poisoned enough to kill all the centaurs, then why aren’t the bulk of prisoners dead?”
“If they are so well known to comment major murders of entire families (well known families at that), how come the local armies aren’t hunting them down?”
“How is their spy ring so impressive, when they apparently just formed after LA (compared to OoW, which was an insane spy ring back in Nightfall, 250 years+ ago).”
“If they are as small as you like to describe, how are they operating against all the bad guy groups at once? If they target one, when they leave it might just reform and grow stronger.”
“How are they going to take out Sons of Svanir or Inquest, when both have recruiting stations inside the major cities and obviously attract a solid portion of people to them daily.”
“So they blow up the top of the CoE, what’s stopping the inquest outside and inside from just setting up another gate that connects to it, from a completely different area?”
“How do they keep the civilian deaths as low as they can be, so only the bad guys panic? Do they poison the water supply but also have the cure and deploy it downstream before it hits any villages?”

The way I at least, take your examples/your descriptions doesn’t make this seem like a lawful group who is willing to go beyond the law if it means stopping the bad guys. If given a choice of “Kill bad guy warlord, or save a few hostages” they’ll kill the warlord to safeguard more.

It comes across as a group of kill happy thugs who gleefully murder entire families of a guilty person, regardless of if the family disowned them, knows about their criminal actions or whatever. Or a group which does these actions, but doesn’t understand how badly it could fly back in their face. Dumping poison into the water or starting a forest fire is not a super controllable means to wipe out a camp and nothing more.

Like an old writing I once did. I gave it to a friend who responded back with some questions/comments such as “That hammer blow wouldn’t result in that type of damage. At best it’d disorientate the person/leave their arm numb and throbbing. At worse it’d break the arm completely.”

Kalavier.1097:

3) Mesmer magic.

You cannot effectively pretend to be an icebrood for long periods of time.

There is a heart that has a Norn pretending to be a Son of Svanir though.

Sons of Svanir are not Icebrood. Sons of Svanir are not corrupted (except their long-standing members, particularly their shamans whom are “blessed by Dragon”).

Zomaarwat.3912:

Kalavier.1097:

3) Mesmer magic.

You cannot effectively pretend to be an icebrood for long periods of time.

There is a heart that has a Norn pretending to be a Son of Svanir though.

He isn’t trying to be any sort of high ranking member. And himself and the OoW hideout nearby both admit that it’s an EXTREMELY dangerous task as I recall. One in the hideout almost gives his actual name but then stops, simply as another safeguard for the guy.

However, CHIPS said “All levels”, which means high level sons of Svanir, who ARE icebrood (or partly icebrood).

You can’t pretend to be half icebrood.

Kalavier.1097:

Zomaarwat.3912:

What Captain Hao Luen and I would like to know is where the other cities were during all of this.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Captain_Hao_Luen

A: The battle lasted most likely around a week from first strike to “Cleanup graveyard and message boards set up.”
B: Said time was unlikely to be enough to mount a proper response/reinforcement mission due to mobilization times.
C: If the battle literally was “Day one, attack and miasma.” “Day two, wait for Miasma to clear.” and “Day three, attack city, get onto breachmaker, kill scarlet.”

There would be almost no time to respond.

D: What has Lion’s Arch done for the other cities to warrant more response?

Centaurs have been rampaging across Kryta for some time, including getting right up to the gates of Divinity’s Reach at the start of the human personal story… and Lion’s Arch has a peace treaty with them, despite evidence that the centaurs haven’t been keeping up their end of the treaty. Kryta could quite justifiably say that they would have loved to have sent more help, but they were still busy fighting centaurs on their own land.

And Kryta is the one that has the most ability and motivation to intervene. The Pale Tree might want to, but is distant. Neither the asura nor the norn are organised enough to send a response as a nation. The charr are, and may even have the spare capacity, but they’d need to come across the Shiverpeaks – and I’m not sure just how canonical the gates in the Shiverpeaks actually are.

E: Those hordes of humans, sylvari, charr, norn and asura PCs fighting Scarlet’s forces in Lion’s Arch? They were the response. The other nations saw the majority of their most potent fighters and spellcasters descending on Lion’s Arch as volunteers, and rationalised that A: that should be enough to get things back in hand and B: with the various heroes in Lion’s Arch rather than protecting their own backyards, they couldn’t afford to formally dispatch any of their regular troops elsewhere.