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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

I’m not going to react to the (lore-related) content of what your saying.

So you ignore the actual topic of the thread then, to continue talking about my “bad actions” – I’m sorry, but that just sounds plain instigative.

On the Wiki you have a 6 month ban for not being able to communicate with people.

I won’t say anything of reddit – and I’m quite glad that I didn’t keep going there when it was shown to me now, and I’d have to say that I’m both honored and insulted that I’m a topic of hate there. Shows that people care about me enough to hate me. But on the wiki ban – you got the reason entirely wrong. I didn’t get ban because I wasn’t able to communicate with people. I got banned because me and another person (as Thalador said, Santax) had a spout which continued even after I tried reasoning and making amends with him. The nature of the spout was two fold – firstly, he put up speculation and misinformation as fact, I fixed it to keep it as facts and to keep the article with a single wording style reworded other parts of the article, and then he reverted me and I reverted him (a foolish action, I admit in hindsight). The second was that he told me to start discussions instead of “reverting” his actions (my first actions were never reverting), but he himself never started discussions unless he reverted before making a discussion. And when a discussion was ongoing, he always reverted – even irrelevant changes or by others – to his version. He even went against consensus time to time in order to put what he thought was best up on the wiki – which was, as said, often misinformation and against consensus.

I know this sounds harsh, but if people where saying that bout me I would try and do my best to change, but you seems to be so uncapable of selfreflecting it seems to be a lost case.

It’s got nothing about my capabilities – or incapabilities – to self-reflect. Honestly, I have so much kitten on my plate in real life that I don’t have the time to worry about how faceless usernames on the internet whom I’ll never meet nor know on a personal basis views me, when I am to them also just a faceless username on the internet whom they’ll never meet nor know on a personal basis.

Konig’s only “flaw” is that the 7+ years of incredibly active and beneficial contribution to the lore society may (rather: must) have eroded his patience to nonsense, BS, debunked but necro’d theories, wrong information or understanding, etc. His aggressive-looking way of handling such can be offending at times, but I of all people know it best that his intention is not to be a rude kitten… it’s become his semi-signature way of handling things over those 7+ long years of being involuntarily – and to his own protest – declared a lore god by some.

….You know, I don’t think I could have worded this any better myself, let alone come to this as a realization of self-reevaluation. I suppose this would be the case, and I’m going to close with quoting this.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

(edited by Konig Des Todes.2086)

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

Narcemus.1348

Wow….

I feel I have some apologizing to do here almost. It seems that a spout I had with Konig a short while back on the basis of resurrection has turned into a witch hunt almost. Sure he’s blunt, and somewhat antagonizing at times but in all honesty it comes only in times where people are outright wrong about what they say, or choose to misconstrue the lore. I’ll admit that even in my own situation I chose the wrong outlook in the matter. I have to ask, whether or not his attitude is always correct, is it really right to attempt to run him out of the forums?

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Posted by: jheryn.8390

jheryn.8390

Konig’s only “flaw” is that the 7+ years of incredibly active and beneficial contribution to the lore society may (rather: must) have eroded his patience to nonsense, BS, debunked but necro’d theories, wrong information or understanding, etc. His aggressive-looking way of handling such can be offending at times, but I of all people know it best that his intention is not to be a rude kitten… it’s become his semi-signature way of handling things over those 7+ long years of being involuntarily – and to his own protest – declared a lore god by some.

Hey Thalador. I appreciate you defending Konig on one hand because he does indeed have a lot to contribute and has vast lore knowledge as many of you do. I am always impressed by some of the knowledge you guys bring. Wow! It is amazing.

On the other hand, there is a reason that Konig gets bashed and it doesn’t matter why he may be impatient or tired of the BS, you cannot talk to people like he does. He has repeatedly said that he does not mean to come across that way but he does. People who don’t know his approach are justifiably offended.

I’ve learned when not to get offended at his responses to me and when to call him on something he shouldn’t have said. I appreciate his knowledge and he has given me some awesome answers to questions I have. That doesn’t change the fact that his posts can be very harsh. It also doesn’t change the fact that if he isn’t able to self evaluate his posts for rudeness, then he has to live with the negative feedback. He already stated that he has a hard time seeing where he is being rude and I believe him.

No amount of disgruntlement or weariness justifies poor behavior. I don’t think Konig does intentionally. But it is there.

@Konig. I really do appreciate your knowledge. I am often facinated by some of your posts. I see them and say to myself “How does he pull that stuff out of his hat?” I know we had our little spat once, but I really do appreciate what you bring to the community. I also will never stop saying something to you if I think it was harsh or hateful. I am not just going to let myself be talked to that way. And if you don’t understand why you are coming across harsh, then take the feedback and try to understand why people got offended. Maybe it will give you some insight to where people are coming from.

I know you aren’t intentionally being mean or arrogant. I get that now. If it was intentional, it would make you the worst person in the world. LOL. I don’t think you are. That title belongs to my second girlfriend. I’ll continue to be impressed with your knowledge and appreciate the help and answers you give to me.

I hope you know that this post was in no way another slap to you Konig. It was more compliment than anything. I wish you the best and look forward to seeing you in the forums.