Guild Wars 2

You need to look at it this way. First don’t reply with “I didn’t do what you said”, I’m talking about what was making 90% of the video games forums post, pre and post launch/patches, not about you.

GW2 promised many things and it still do. Players were expecting giant, epic battles. We were told of a dynamic, “living” story which is something we don’t have in others MMO.

What was LS1, and gw2 at launch ?

None of that. Epic battles ? Do you remember Zhaitan, how much you laughed and cried at the same time during this scene ? Do you remember Scarlet, how everyone hated her, wanted her gone, how poor were our fights with her ? How she was, and is apparently, supposed to be part of a bigger plot but instead since everyone just hate her nothing’s gonna shine through it ?

ANet failed to deliver to many players, yes ; and that’s their own fault. Players will ALWAYS say “omg this is so great I can’t wait”, because they’re FAN, they love the game, this is the ones that are the most easily disappointed because they expect so much from their favorite game. There are some that are more calm and will take more caution. But they’re a minority. And ANet, well… they’re excited for literally nothing. Every update, they would go “this is amazing guys we can’t wait”, they made the hype go even higher, and do you know where that leads ? Disappointment. Exactly. You hype for something REAL big, not when you have this two weeks schedule and don’t deliver much at the same time.
There, we were teased with a portal to a new zone. They know what people want. They want a new race (Tengus for most), they want new dungeons, they want new weapons, they want actual content in a new zone. That’s what they expect from a new zone. They don’t care about the LS2 story, because LS1 was a ruin, all they want is actual gameplay.

ANet did chose to continue their story. They did hype with the most sensitive thing there would be (a new zone) and left us with a little one ; just one small, little sparkle that lighted a fire, they knew that would happen, it always do. You can’t let people think you’re going with something big and then do it so slowly. If you do this, you have to communicate, which they don’t. All they would need would be to state if they’re planning to implement weaps, races, dungeons, zones, gear, blablablah, anytime soon. Regularly. And people would know what to expect, the hype would be controlled, there, no disappointment whatsoever. Maybe a little “ah, I wished”, but when the update comes, we know roundly what to expect, the fans don’t go crazy all over the place then feel like they were let down. But ANet don’t, they let the story repeat itself at each update.

Also, it’s another event where organizing looks very interesting, but honestly I just don’t have the will to look “again” in LFG to find good maps, neither do I have the will or the possibility to organize a good one myself, and it’s not like we’d have that many tools once again. I’m not enjoying doing this as this is a “spam to join” fest again, therefore I’m barely doing the event, just got the achievements and played with the events a bit then left waiting for the next, but I’m only talking for myself there as I’ve grown tired of it with the jubilee.

Really, all they need to do would just be to talk with us, but they’re not. How I would LOVE if a game dev would tell me if they plan to implement those kitten crossbows, y’know ? Yes, no, maybe, just tell us something interesting. Stop this kitten hype circle, it always disappoint unless it’s REAL big like an extension or something, the fans do enough of a hype, don’t overdo it.

I’m speaking as someone who both love the new shiny loot and the story, but has been left with a weird taste in mouth with LS1. Yeah, cool, I got shiny loot, but gameplay and story were so, so poor. I love the game, I really do, but I understand when people are disappointed, because I see how ANet acts, and I know what players do. ANet has to adapt to players, not the other way around. Maybe for their third or four games will they understand that playing the “when it’s ready” card along with the “omg shiniz so good excited much heartbeat we’re dying from anticipation, can’t wait so wow” when it’s about to be out does. not. work. Players have to feel like they’re heard, like ANet is actually somewhat close to it’s players.

Not sure how ‘too much hype’ and ‘they don’t say anything’ can be resolved.

I didn’t feel there was much hype, at all. Never once did the Devs say there would be a new zone. In fact, there were plenty of threads insisting there would not be. It was a pleasant surprise for me.

I prefer the smaller, more frequent updates to the larger, wait-forever kind. But, that’s just my personal preference.

“[complaining about how the content is only a few hours long]”

And Metal Gear Solid 4 is only 3 hours long, and cost $60 at its release.

Season 2 chapter 1? Costs only $2 if you miss it. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, especially compared to Metal Gear Solid 4.

What exactly do you want from Season 2 anyways? An entire expansion campaign the size of freaking Nightfall!?

Yeesh, gamers these days are so spoiled… Try to think more of season 2 like a cake. If you rush it, you will find yourself only wanting more. And more. And more, and more.

But if you take your time, and enjoy what it has to offer, you will find yourself really satisfied with your meal.

Personally, I am impressed by season 2 so far because it gave us an entire new endgame map with cool farms, interesting mechanics, sweet achievements, and a new story and setting expanding the lore.

Seriously, if you can’t appreciate all the hard work ANET had put into this for just $2, then I think you wont be missed very much if you quit the game.

Why are people blitzing through the content in a day? Given that Anet is now made it such that the content is permanent, just log in for a minute or two then log off to play the many Steam games you might’ve bought during the summer sale, >_>;;

I am still much happier with this style of very minimal-almost free content, rather than in other games where I have to cook up about USD13 each month for no content. And mind you USD13 ain’t cheap for some of us (translates to about RM50 for where I’m from, equivalent to a week’s worth lunch money)

BrotherBelial.3094:

Mitch.4781:

Then I am done with this game. I’m simply not gonna go through a replication of season 1, where this drip feed of two week content that can be finished in a few hours which is hyped to enormity yet delivers jack crap! And I say that with a heavy heart because I truly believe this game had enormous potential…But they are simply not delivering.

Anybody could have seen everything there was to see in Dry Top within a few hours. Add in the fact that IF you wanted to bother with the achievements you had to go through the story twice yet you cannot skip it. Anet, let me be clear when I say this “Achievements are NOT CONTENT”!

Imagine they had started season 2 with at leats 3 new FULL maps and a new Dungeon with 3 paths and then said that’s your lot for at least 3 months? Wouldn’t that have been better and more exciting? This drip drip tap feed of "content " is absolutely NO different from LS1 and It’s like they are not listening.

Notice the only dev input on this forum is for people praising the new season…Fair enough..Keep your Ostrich in the sand attitude..there are PLENTY of games out there…

I loved this game…but unless I see PROPER DEEP content then yeh..I’m done and I know for a fact I’m not alone.

The game might not be delivering for you, but I have to say this is what I want from this game. I don’t get to play all that much so when I do it’s nice I can see everything in a few hours. No achievements are not content, but then you don’t have to do them. They are there if you want to. There is enough to keep you busy. I refuse to believe you have everything from this chapter. Every achievement, item, recipe. There are plenty of things to get. The content is only as deep as you make it. Have you spoken to every NPC? Listened to there conversations?

I don’t mean to sound rude or anything, but when ever I see a thread like this I hope one of two things happen. You get what you want from the next patch or you do leave, then there is one less post like this on the forum. I see the same thing from the same people all the time and they are still here. Again no wanting to sound rude. It just bugs me when people think saying they’ll stop playing the game will do anything. ANet will not change there plans for one person or a handful. If you can prove there is more than a handful of unhappy players then maybe you’ll achieve something.

Just remember games are ment to be fun. If your not having fun stop playing for a bit, just log in to get the chapters, then a few months down the line you might want to give the game another chance, and maybe it will be more to your liking. I did it with Guild Wars 2. After my bug filled exsperiance with the Southsun launch I stayed away from the game till the bazaar. Then I enjoyed the game a lot more. I’m still not a fan of whinters day, but that’s just me. And I’m sure not going to tell ANet to change it just because I don’t like it. The game will go on with out me.

Is their, not “there”.

You know what kind of response you deserve, OP?

This one: I don’t see you out there walking children in nature

That’s how irrelevant you are. Next time week, cry us a river so I can make sure I’ll post the same thing over and over again.

Bye Felicia

I don’t know why anyone would expect chapter one to be chock full of content. It needed to be splashy and have some wow factor, but it couldn’t possibly be clearer that this is meant as the first part of a much longer content release. Personally, I thought this was an example of the kind of direction I was hoping the game was going to go in, which is exactly what I was expecting and hoping for.

AnAspieKitten.5732:

GW2 promised many things and it still do. Players were expecting giant, epic battles. We were told of a dynamic, “living” story which is something we don’t have in others MMO.

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You can’t let people think you’re going with something big and then do it so slowly. If you do this, you have to communicate, which they don’t. All they would need would be to state if they’re planning to implement weaps, races, dungeons, zones, gear, blablablah, anytime soon. Regularly. And people would know what to expect, the hype would be controlled, there, no disappointment whatsoever.

OK, your first part answers why your second part doesn’t happen anymore. They’re not just sitting around over there playing cards all day. They aren’t just trying to think of the least amount of work they can possibly release. They want to make a good game and they do the best they can with what they are able to do. If they promised more than they were able to deliver, then, well…. that’s like 90% of life.

But a lot of people just hold them to words they said 2 years ago like it was a solemn oath and had been written out word for word in the EULA. It wasn’t, they told you what they really wanted to do and they weren’t able to get to all of it given things like budget, timing, and some creative turnover.

At this point, if what they are doing isn’t enough for you, then hop off board the train, realize it’s not going to happen. But don’t get angry at them for not being able to live up to their promises, they’re not your dad. And understand that the reason they won’t tell you what they have planned is because they know that if ANY of it doesn’t get done in time or changes in scope, they will get more threads like this whining about how they don’t deliver on promises.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Not sure how ‘too much hype’ and ‘they don’t say anything’ can be resolved.

I didn’t feel there was much hype, at all. Never once did the Devs say there would be a new zone. In fact, there were plenty of threads insisting there would not be. It was a pleasant surprise for me.

I prefer the smaller, more frequent updates to the larger, wait-forever kind. But, that’s just my personal preference.

Just answering to this, I don’t have enough time to read others, but yes they teased. They posted a screen of a portal. Leading to a new zone. We knew it was, we new where it was. Also, they posted a tumblr, they’re only post here if I’m right, where I think there are some more clues (didn’t checked though, that’s not 100% sure).
Zones are the sensitive things since the start since that mostly means new dungeons & such – hopefully. So if you place yourself from the position of someone that really wants one, this portal was just a paradise of hopes. They knew that. That’s why they did it. If you tease then include one that is, for now, not relevant to the player’s expectation, aka for nom it’s just for the LS just like southsun, then yes you hype for nothing. I also like they updating style but quite frankly sometimes it’s a bit boring to see the same scheme, all over again, always. They will keep that, then good. But for God’s sake, atleast inform us. Talk. Speak. Write. Hear us atleast ? I don’t know. Do something, that can’t be hard, hire someone to talk with the fans and there we go.

Also I see alot of “blitzing through the content in a day” in this thread. Just to be clear, I only played a few hours. Explored all the map and did all the events which I can’t rush, I’m just doing them as they come. Yes I still have a few things to do, like getting the recipes. And talking to npc. And that’s it.

Kain Francois.4328:

“[complaining about how the content is only a few hours long]”

And Metal Gear Solid 4 is only 3 hours long, and cost $60 at its release.

Season 2 chapter 1? Costs only $2 if you miss it. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, especially compared to Metal Gear Solid 4.

What exactly do you want from Season 2 anyways? An entire expansion campaign the size of freaking Nightfall!?

Yeesh, gamers these days are so spoiled… Try to think more of season 2 like a cake. If you rush it, you will find yourself only wanting more. And more. And more, and more.

But if you take your time, and enjoy what it has to offer, you will find yourself really satisfied with your meal.

Personally, I am impressed by season 2 so far because it gave us an entire new endgame map with cool farms, interesting mechanics, sweet achievements, and a new story and setting expanding the lore.

Seriously, if you can’t appreciate all the hard work ANET had put into this for just $2, then I think you wont be missed very much if you quit the game.

I know you are trying to make a point, but you made your point poorly. Learn your video games.

1) Metal Gear Solid 4 was 10-25 hours long (pending how much content you see, and not including cut scenes), with the most dedicated speed runners clearing a perfect game in a little under 5 hours, and that’s skipping everything. 60 bucks is a pretty darn good deal for that.

2) You must mean Metal Gear Solid 5 : Ground Zeroes, which was 19.99 to 29.99, depending on which system you got it on. It was 2 hours long, with 10 hours of side missions.

3) that is comparable to this latest Guild Wars 2 release, except for the price (and graphical fidelity). roughly 2 hours of story, 10 hours of side content.

(next few lines are directed at thread, not you)
4) That is FREE, if you log in. Kojima proved that you can charge 30 bucks for 2 hours of content that can be completed in 10 minutes, and people will be crazy enough to buy it anyways. Anet could have done that! …..Just saying.

@Kain, you need to go repent and ask the gaming gods for forgiveness for what you said about Metal Gear Solid 4 (no matter your opinion on 5). Otherwise, I mostly agree with you.

Sola.7250:

Too me it’s not about the amount of content (too much, too little), it’s about the replay-ability of the content. Almost all of the GW2 content is the same the 1st time or the 100th time. I

I would rather see caves & mini dungeons on each map with random hidden locations, traps, bosses and loot. Make player’s explore and find loot vs just reward it at the end, would be better, adding more long term play than this living world stuff.

Secret and random hidden locations work only so long. People forget that outside of the game there is the internet and youtube. There and secrets or tidbits are revealed, along with guides on how to find a collection or do a jump puzzle, etc.

So, unless you can stop those websites, then devs can’t win on people ‘blazing through content’ because they have to be first to post about it.

I means how many people rushed through so they could be first to give opinions on the update on these forums?