Guild Wars 2

Ok So before I start, I’ll say, I currenctly have 3750 charges worth on Mystic Salvage Kits.

What I would like to ask is as follows… It seems like a waste using Mystic Salvage Kits on Basic (white) and Fine (Blue) items. Should I just use Crude Kits on these?

Similar question for Masterwork (Green), but I’m guessing these are more likely to require Mystic Salvage Kits?

If Crude is the recommended for Basic, Fine, and/or Masterwork, at what level would it matter for each quality? I know some people have different opinions on this, but I would still like to hear feedback on this. Thank you

My personal rule of thumb is:

For Basic/Fine/Masterwork items, use Crude/Basic/Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic.

For Rare items, use Master/Mystic Salvage Kits.

For Exotic items, use Black Lion Salvage Kits, or Master/Mystic Kits if you don’t have them.

Zaxares.5419:

My personal rule of thumb is:

For Basic/Fine/Masterwork items, use Crude/Basic/Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic.

For Rare items, use Master/Mystic Salvage Kits.

For Exotic items, use Black Lion Salvage Kits, or Master/Mystic Kits if you don’t have them.

Thank you for the reply, I was thinking basically that order. It also helps me decide if the Copper Fed Salvage-o-Matic is worth buying or not.

For the exotics and BL Salvage kits, use it only if you need the next step up ectos (I forget what they are called) and if the sigil/rune is worth the cost. If not, just use the Master or sell it on the TP.

^ He’s talking about Dark Matter, which is used in Ascended crafting.

Salvage research has shown that BLSK’s do have a slightly better chance of returning Ectos and Dark Matter when compared to Master/Mystic Kits, and they also have slightly better chances of returning inscriptions/insignias. Since it’s not really worth using BLSK’s on Rares most of the time, and Exotic drops are likely to be few and far between (unless you do a lot of dungeon running), that’s why I suggest using BLSK’s for Exotics. (Of course, your decision will depend on how many BLSK’s you have stored up, and whether or not the item in question is worth it. An Exotic trinket with no upgrade, for example, is probably better served using a Master/Mystic Kit rather than the BLSK.)

rabidsmiles.5926:

For the exotics and BL Salvage kits, use it only if you need the next step up ectos (I forget what they are called) and if the sigil/rune is worth the cost. If not, just use the Master or sell it on the TP.

Also, unconventional inscriptions or insignia like soldier or magi.

I use basic for everything except rares, exotics, or ecto. I reserve BL kits for removing expensive upgrades.

I no longer bother with crude kits; the money saved isn’t worth the time lost to inventory management.

Crude for white and blues.
Basic for greens.
Master/Mystic for gold.
BLSK (I get one to two dropped on me for free per month) for orange.

Crude kit on blues and whites.
Green kit on greens.
Mystic kit on yellows and oranges that have runes/sigils cheaper than 2g 40s.
BLSK on oranges that have runes/sigils more expensive than 2g 40s.

Each BLSK salvage costs about 1 gold 20 silver.

When using green kits on greens you must mforge all the result minor runes/sigils into majors, then into superiors. Otherwise, if you’re not going to mforge the results, use crudes on greens as well, or the extra cost will be wasted.

I normally carry 1 green 4 crudes and a high-charge mystic around. Times I have to use BLSK are rare, and every use of the BLSK has to be considered carefully.

Copper fed salvage o matic and permanent tools are useful if you only have one main, for convenience’s sake. Otherwise, they’re wastes of money. It’s more efficient to carry around a Permanent Black Lion Merchant Contract, from which you can buy all the kits and harvest tools you’ll ever need, plus sell all of the random grey drops. When transferring between alts, it makes it easy to simply move one item as opposed to unequipping, moving and reequipping 4.

Zaxares.5419:

^ He’s talking about Dark Matter, which is used in Ascended crafting.

Salvage research has shown that BLSK’s do have a slightly better chance of returning Ectos and Dark Matter when compared to Master/Mystic Kits, and they also have slightly better chances of returning inscriptions/insignias. Since it’s not really worth using BLSK’s on Rares most of the time, and Exotic drops are likely to be few and far between (unless you do a lot of dungeon running), that’s why I suggest using BLSK’s for Exotics. (Of course, your decision will depend on how many BLSK’s you have stored up, and whether or not the item in question is worth it. An Exotic trinket with no upgrade, for example, is probably better served using a Master/Mystic Kit rather than the BLSK.)

*she’s talking about it (not everyone around here is a dude ) but yes that’s what I meant. Thanks!

Since I don’t buy BLK, I tend not to want to waste them on an exotic that doesn’t have a sigil/rune worth removing. If you are swimming in BLK, by all means salvage away. I just found that I almost didn’t have a kit when an item with a Superior Rune of Strength finally came my way because I had salvaged away almost all of my BLK on very exotic. I have to be careful with my BLK stash so for that reason, I tend not to salvage all of them.

white/blue/green) crude has a 10% chance of promotion, basic has a 12% chance. say you’re salvaging for mithril and only 1 ore/salvage (10% chance of ori). if you use a crude kit, that’s 40cx0.9 + 5sx0.1 = 86c. if you use a basic kit, that’s 40cx0.88 + 5sx0.12 = 95.2c (a 9.2c increase).
crude costs 2.13c per use and basic costs 3.52c per use (1.39c difference) so by using basic instead of crude, you make 7.81c more per salvage.
this is the best-case scenario. most salvages, the promotion is not much more expensive than the base. For all of those, crude is slightly better. However, we are talking like 1c per use here. even after 1,000 salvages, that’s only 10s less. the convenience of 25 charges instead of 15 probably makes up for that, depending on your opinion.
so, white/blue/green: crude or basic or copper SoM

rares level 67-) I would sell these on the TP or throw them into the MF with other low level rares, then probably salvage what comes out for ectos.

rares level 68+) If you have free mystic forge stones, use mystic salvage kits on these. If not, use master salvage kits. currently, the only reason you would want to use a BLSK on this is if you put a really expensive rune/sigil in it.

exotics) check the TP price of the exotic and what it is socketed with. If the item sells for more than the socket, sell it. If the socket + potential inscription/insignia sells for 12g or higher, use a BLSK on it. If the socket + potential inscription/insignia sells for less than 12g, use a MSK on it.
If you are overflowing with BLSK, I would still only recommend you use BLSK on expensive sockets – how expensive depends on how many BLSK you receive. You don’t want to use them all on 2g sockets then not have any when you do get a super-expensive one.
why 12g? at 17g/100 gems, BLSK cost 2g per use. It increases the chance of recovery from 80% to 100% so 20% of the socket’s value needs to be at least 2g to merit it’s use. 2g / 0.2 = 10g. I say 12g because BLSK also slightly increases how many ecto, inscription/insignia, and GoDM you get. I did the math on another post a few months ago (the gem price back then was about 12g80c)
In general, the limit is at 70% of the price of 100 gems. 17g * 0.7 = 11g90c

Mystic.5934:

so, white/blue/green: crude or basic or copper SoM

Hmm, that’s interesting- I usually use Master kits on greens to give a better chance of recovering the upgrades so that I can Forge them. But given how cheap most are on the BLTP, if I really want to Forge upgrades it may save me money in the long run to buy them exclusively from the TP.

Greens… the minor sigil usually sells for like 20c. not really worth spending 61c for a better chance at getting it. now, there are some more expensive minor sigils and runes. I doubt you’d see many of them, otherwise they wouldn’t be expensive. the socket would have to be worth more than 1s to merit using a MSK on it (80% vs. basic’s 20% = 60 difference. 61c cost / 0.6 = 1s02c)
that leads me to another reason why you should only use MSK on rares. at least only rares with a socket, as all rare sockets are major runes/sigils which are worth ~4s.