Guild Wars 2

Hi,

I absolutely detest getting matched with premades. Even more so than getting against premades.

And Im pretty sure, Im not the only one.

I want a real soloqueue.

But… I get why this would make teamqueue difficult and rather… obsolete because of long queue times.

So, how about giving as few, that just DONT want to fill up for some obscure premade an option to not get put in with premades during matchmaking process?

Tbh, with OW out, and other mmos on the horizon… this would probably be one of those things that would keep me playing gw2 pvp.

What if the matchmaking put parties of 4 and 5 together in a que and parties of 3 and less in another que?

Personally, I really don’t see that this is an issue. Vast majority of the games I play in are all soloq, maybe with one or two duos thrown in. As far as I can see this has no impact on how the games go. Just suck it up mate. If you lost a couple of games so what. Practice.

I agree OP. A solo queue would be a much better measure of individual player skill. It would also reduce farming issues.

If you expecting ANet to look after us Solo queue players, just stop holding your breath and continue getting farmed. If and when you are tried of getting farmed by completely biased match maker and permades in GW2 as I have, your only choice at this point is to either suck it up or just find another game to pvp in.

In my experience GW2 is one of the ABSOLUTELY worst pvp game for someone who only solo ques to play. ANet only looks at us solo queuers as cattle to feed to self proclaimed permades and “Pros” of “GW2” which carries no weight outside the game.

If my last statement was even a little bit false, then you would’ve saw a ANet community manager if not a Dev would have came on the forums or hell even Reddit to clear the waters. But they don’t, because they give the least amount of care for “Paying Solo Queuing Customers”. I would even go so far as to say the ANet Devs just want sPvP to be a highly anti-competitive pvp mode in GW2."

IMHO the only way to truly “TRY” to attempt to change the ANet Devs minds about us. Is to simply not feed the system and go somewhere else that offers more enjoyment. At least until ANet wise up and see that we “SOLO” queues are for the most the lifeblood of GW2’s sPvP, and without any of us around queue times for everyone lefted in sPvP gets increase to the point only to truely diehards of GW2’s sPvP are going to want to keep playing.

But that will not happen because the players lefted still playing GW2’s sPvP, that are now complaining knows if they leave for another sPvP game that they will have to fight tooth and nail for their victories. Also in most other sPvP games they would also have to put considerable time into normal/unranked matches before said games would ever allow them to troll the actually ranked/competitive mode, unlike GW2 after about a few hours a day max players are allowed to troll players who are… was actually trying to completely and test their skills against enemies.

To end this “Wall of Text.” The chances that this problem will be addressed at this point is super slim to none. Because most if not all of the competitive solo queuers have left to much much greener pastures and outlets. All that’s for the most part lefted playing GW2’s sPvP IMHO from what I see are…. Ether “GW2’s sPvP Pros” players that are just looking to feed their EGOs on non organized lower tiered solo queuers. Or players that are just looking for free wins/carry by MMS so that they feel some sort of self worth, they would not get with most other competitive sPvP game’s MMSs.

Ok for real, now this is the end of my wall of text.

i 2 dont see a issue here…. this game should reward playing with freinds not the other way around your suggestion would make a ALREADY awful que time even worse all but killing that part of the game!

wardspratlin.9107:

i 2 dont see a issue here…. this game should reward playing with freinds not the other way around your suggestion would make a ALREADY awful que time even worse all but killing that part of the game!

This game should reward BOTH. Are you suggesting that the “Paying Solo Queueing Costumer” have no right to competitive fun in this game.

Ok fine we will only accept this if ANet refunded us for the thousands and thousands of USD we put into the game, otherwise just no NO. “EVERYONE” should be able to have competitive fun in a competitive environment, just like in many other PvP games out on the market now.

Basically what you just said is" I think that solo queuers should suffer agony and torment because I’m a premade who like to effortlessly farm these players."

Players like you are the cause to your 15, 20 mins plus queues. This is what happens when the devs and select few of the community makes solo queuing a crime that is punished by turning the solo queuing players into cattle for the rest, enjoy your super long queues.. yall absolutely earned them.

I find it quite amusing how some obviously only read the title.

Not everybody would opt out of getting placed with premades. My prediction is, that most dont care. So it wouldnt really influence queuetimes that much for most.

Most here hate on stronghold, still queuetimes for that gamemode are only long if you queue with full premade. And that even though most players confess to a dislike of stronghold gamemode.

I, however, do care about getting placed with premades. A lot. The vast majority of premades I get placed WITH and AGAINST are crappy guild groups. Its no fun to win against them, its no fun to loose with them.

For me, playing without voicechat crutch… with 5 random players placed together, thats the highest form of a challenge in pvp. Its why I played gw1, it was in the past why I played gw2, and it is only because of that past, that I keep on (stubbornly) hoping for anet to realize their mistake. But my patience has been stretched thin. Too thin, tbh.

Playing with premade gives you already a HUGE advantage, wardspratlin. THATS your reward for playing with friends. What else do you want… a guaranteed win? Sorry mate, but at one point you have to start to get good to win.

i fully support the option and requested it myself in other games. however, ive been told there are numerous ways to trick soloq, most famous is probably syncing. some of them even hurt when it doesnt work, like kittens being separated wont fight and afk or st. it would be great in a game with a decent com, but gw doesnt have that.

No thank you. The queue times would skyrocket.

I’ve solo queued almost this entire season. If you’re losing, pre mades are not the problem.

And, at least in my experience, I’ve found the team match making kinda good. If there’s a two or three man on the other team, then there’s usually one on mine. And if there’s not, it’s usually because the pre made is not so good.

So you would probably opt in for premades. Which would make you a lucky kitten since your queue time would probably be non-existent, according to your theory, because most would opt out of being placed with premades.

But still… Im saying it most likely is less than half of the playerbase that would opt out, changing queueing times not the least bit.

You think its fair to get placed with a premade that only has above average mmr because of that one really high placed newish account they have in there?
I can tell you: it is not. Those below average mmr guys… they are stuck there for a reason.

And you know what the worst is? Because my mmr really is as high as THEIR team mmr… I get downadjusted by a lot if we loose… or get only slight increase if I carry them to a win, while those baddies sitting there in team with that high mmr account… they get a HUGE bonus.
So if I actually carry them… then I actually risk having them closer to my mmr and getting them over and over and over….
If I loose, I loose a pip, my winstreak and my mmr gets kitten on.

So no, its not all sunshine with premades. And since anet is not willing to fix widespread mmr in teams… I dont want to be forced to play with them.

I dont want to be a filler/fodder for teamqueue.

/edit:
To be really precise… I dont mind so much playing against premades, since those usually end up being bad… I do however mind a lot being placed with said premades… which happens to me a lot.

I’ve trashed premades and been trashed as a premade on many occasions. There are a lot of bad premades around where none of this really matters. If you vs’ed the same group again and the same composition they’d likely trash you again anyways. Can you honestly say that extra bit of coordination made the difference and not you or your team’s incompetence?

I honestly dont think it makes a difference, your either good enough or you are not. Yes talking helps but it doesnt make the player better.

I think the ESL players could probably run non-meta builds and not be in ts and beat 98% of the premades in the game.

Id also like to point out that the team i was on had a thief, 2 engy, 1 DH and me on rifle warrior.

They had a necro, rev, engy, ele and mesmer, (trying to copy ESL teams)