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Posted by: Zuko.7132

Zuko.7132

I main d/d ele, because why not? It is strongest class in the game right now. The fact that you can take 4 or 5 of a single class and be more likely to win then you would with a diverse comp is a major issue. I love ele but it needs a few nerfs.
1. Ring of Fire needs an icd of about .5 seconds to avoid getting 9 stacks instantly from tiny tap to the left then right again. Go through then .5 seconds later burning can be applied again.
2. Passive trait in fire burning fire should only remove condis not apply burn instant passive 3 burn stacks is not fun. This will not kill fire trait line its op as it is.
3. possibly add 2 more seconds to the icd of blinding ashes.

Discuss.

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

Increase icd of blinding ashes to 12s or make it only proc upon applying 2+ stacks of burn.

I find it stupid that fire eles are currently just as survival as earth in every 1v1 situation while having 20% more damage, more burns, more might. Due to the current 5s cd, most of the blinds aren’t even intentional and occur by being hit with fire aura up.

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Posted by: Stilgar.6437

Stilgar.6437

l2p. ele outhelas 2v1, 3v1 is harder ele has to kite and disengage from time to time, but 4v1 easily counters ele, he cant outheal that and between 4 people they will have couple gap closers, CCs, condi clears to finish the ele off. just queue with 17 people for the match, 4 for each ele and a thief to battle the opposing thief. easy win.

But seriously, there are enough threads. Everyone agrees its beyond broken, all the arguments have been made. Anet read the arguments, they are aware that ESL is now ele only tournament. If they could they would roll out a fix today. Its just unlucky timing, HoT is far bigger priority, the year is getting shorter and they promised to release it this year, there will be no balancing right now. Its all been discussed to death.

Just take a break from pvp until HoT (or the balance patch after hot if expansion itself doesnt change the ele meta), or roll a ele yourself. Or like me, continue to play ranger but use the timer before match every time to complain about the 6 eles in the match. At this point, new complaints, suggestions how to fix are pretty pointless, you cant say anything that hasnt been said before.

Though I would like to see the tournaments make a restriction on how many (or if any at all) eles can you run. All ele ESL/AG/WTS is really embarrassing.

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Posted by: Todd.6573

Todd.6573

All of the above plus:
- Reduced damage of burn condition
- ICD on ALL AoE fields applying conditions across all classes (could work in exceptions, but burns should be guaranteed, this obviously should not apply to finishers)
- LONG ICD of Cleansing Water or complete rework (This talent does not reward any form of skillful play, and yes there are plenty of other classes that have similar braindead talents, but they are currently not being brought into the 4-5 ele meta nor able to stand toe to toe with 3+ combatants)
- Blinding Ashes could have a much longer ICD

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Posted by: TheFamster.7806

TheFamster.7806

I agree everything that was said by Zuko. As long as Eles don’t get their water and arcane touched, I’m happy for the nerf

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Posted by: zinkz.7045

zinkz.7045

You realise that this game is never going to be well balanced, you can either have variety or you can have balance, it is as simple as that, everything in this game provides variety, the trait system (even though it is more restricted now), the numerous weapon options, numerous stat options with no class restrictions, a zillion sigils/runes and the design that a class can pretty much perform any role or a combination of roles.

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Posted by: Ara.4569

Ara.4569

There’s no variety so it must be all about balance, and guess what, it’s actually balanced ! Ele vs ele is pretty much 50/50.

Balance team is a bunch of clowns, hurting the game to the full extent of their abilities.

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Posted by: Tao.1234

Tao.1234

I believe that making Burning Ashes baseline and reducing ICD to 2seconds would make Fire line balanced.

Also, Ring of Fire and Burning Speed should get +1 Burn stack per application.

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

There’s no variety so it must be all about balance, and guess what, it’s actually balanced ! Ele vs ele is pretty much 50/50.

Wrong. Celestial ele running fire/water/arcana beats every other ele spec in 1v1, or at least has an advantage over them (unless you made a build specifically designed to counter it, in which case it would be weak in other aspects).

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

I did some data mining and next update Ele’s will be able to apply a condi which makes the next 3 condis they apply “uncleansable” (like unblockable melee attacks)
Im levelling my Ele now.
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im joking of course but wouldnt be surprised.

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Posted by: Roxanne.6140

Roxanne.6140

I main d/d ele, because why not? It is strongest class in the game right now. The fact that you can take 4 or 5 of a single class and be more likely to win then you would with a diverse comp is a major issue. I love ele but it needs a few nerfs.
1. Ring of Fire needs an icd of about .5 seconds to avoid getting 9 stacks instantly from tiny tap to the left then right again. Go through then .5 seconds later burning can be applied again.
2. Passive trait in fire burning fire should only remove condis not apply burn instant passive 3 burn stacks is not fun. This will not kill fire trait line its op as it is.
3. possibly add 2 more seconds to the icd of blinding ashes.

Discuss.

I play almost all classes now. I think cele ele wasn’t really good before the patch, getting rekt by thieves and alot of other classes. there may be a thin line between making ele a joke on the battlefields and one that is actually pretty strong, maining ele before the patch made me almost want to quit gw2


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Posted by: Hammerguard.9834

Hammerguard.9834

Yeah, I don’t know why necro and ele have minor traits that apply full actives or their utility counterpart. They’re suppose to be weaker versions like lesser signet of vampirism.

… I still want tengu.