Guild Wars 2

Greetings everyone, so past few days I’ve been playing Firefall, and now it has come to my senses that firefall has good structured PvP same on Guild Wars 2, but there are difference.

here are the difference

Things you can gain on Firefall PvP
- You can earn crystites(PvE currency to buy items) same as Gold/Silver/Copper in Guild wars 2
- Battle Arena Voucher (PvP token to buy Titles or some stuffs)
- Accord Merit Point (It involves around PvE stuffs)
- Random Raw materials (Crafting materlials you can use for PvE)
- Experience ( For your character progression to unlock skills on PvE) (You can get experience whether win or lose)

So pretty much you get things that can help you out in PvE without being bounded on one game type, if you level up through PvP and get bored with it, then simply head to PvE and enjoy PvE since you already get to earn stuffs that are for PvE when winning on PvP.

Here’s what you can get on Guild Wars 2 PvP
- Glory Points
- Chests (If you win)
- nothing involve in PvE
-Laurels(Dailies, used to buy Trinkets / Thanks Tenebrous)
If im missing something let me know

so the thought of that, if you get bored on PvP, what can you do on PvE in Guild wars 2 with a level 2 character? or what can you do on WvW with a level 2 character?
- level up your character upto 80 (You have to spend time through it meaning take a break from PvP)
or
- leech on zergs in WvW
or
- farm stuffs and start crafting

Thing is, I am wondering how can character progress through pve by just doing PvP?

because if players can gain something from PvP, meaning it would encourage other players to play PvP, more players on PvP, big PvP competitive scene, as well when PvPers got nothing else to do in 3am morning, what else can you do? AFK on mists?

I think it would be a great idea if PvP players can gain something in PvP that is useful on PvE so that they can progress their characters and gain some achievements too.

You guys have any thoughts?

Sinister.5792:

Thing is, I am wondering how can character progress through pve by just doing PvP?

You can’t, simple as that.. PvP and PvE are completely separated..

I know it is like that, but I really hope devs will do something about this too so atleast PvP players are not bound only for PvP and can enjoy PvE content too since most of PvP players spend too much time on PvP..

LOL.
You sir, op, are funny. People spending too much time in PvP? You want the few remaining PvP players to be motivated to play PvE? You want to kill PvP for good?

I think on the contrary, it would draw more players to come and try it, because they wouldn’t feel like putting the rest of the game on hold while they enjoy a couple of solo queue and hot join. No need to turn them to full time pvper, but at least if I invite a couple of pve friend to a pvp game, they would gain something out of it.

The only incentive I have right now with PvP (apart from the fun I get from it) is that I’ve won a Black and White dye from their chests, meaning my brain wants more dye to make more gold to help my PvE side.

We need devoted good pvp players. PPL coming and trying is bad enough with dailies /monthlies. Just recently I was able to roflstomp some pve guilds dailie dudes in tPvP with my glass ele. Full zerker, 0 30 10 0 30. Pure damage. Noone dodged, 1v5 … We don´t need more gimps, we need people who play PvP for PvP. 90% of decent PvPers I knew have quit. Half of those due to necro overload patch. Most good teams I know have disbanded/are inactive.
I don´t wanna be disrespectful, but flooding PvP with gimps without a large enough moderate to highend community will scare away whats left.
And the gimps wont stay because they get eaten alive.

More “kitten ” means they will be able to play a lot more together, and leave the “elites” (gotta laugh at that notion) clakitten out together instead of farming the kitten .

Nothing wrong with peoples quitting, it happens in all game. Fresh blood keeps the game growing and moving. There is some crazy good players that solely play in WvW because there’s no incentive to pvp. I was a full time WvW player until recently, just because of time restriction I started doing PvP for my dailies because it was easier and took less time to complete. And guess what, it hooked me for a bit, even got a Champion achievement out of it because I stick with it.

Also some kitten may rise as elites if you give them enough incentive to stay and learn. Why stay up all evening getting farmed in pvp to learn it, when you may as well play in a mode where you earn something for the long term (by that I mean character slots, banks slots and other permanent upgrades to your account). There is no long term right now in PvP.

Blimm.5028:

LOL.
You sir, op, are funny. People spending too much time in PvP? You want the few remaining PvP players to be motivated to play PvE? You want to kill PvP for good?

this one example of a stupid post

Panhauramix.2784:

I think on the contrary, it would draw more players to come and try it, because they wouldn’t feel like putting the rest of the game on hold while they enjoy a couple of solo queue and hot join. No need to turn them to full time pvper, but at least if I invite a couple of pve friend to a pvp game, they would gain something out of it.
The only incentive I have right now with PvP (apart from the fun I get from it) is that I’ve won a Black and White dye from their chests, meaning my brain wants more dye to make more gold to help my PvE side.

this one is a good post because he knows how to read and is not an elitist

This is why PvP is not fun because players like Blimm just want to ruin it, while others want PvP to improve by inviting players from pve as well, because there are good pve players who knows how to pvp too but cant simply waste time on PvP due to players like Blimm.

one evidence that I got is that
my guildies want to make a team to join on a tournament and this is what I’ve seen

My Guildie 1: Lets make a team for tournament
My Guildie 2: No because there’s alot of trolls in there (Example: Blimm)

Well with the new Account Wallet thing being added in Aug. 6, perhaps we can start seeing a Glory → PvE Reward exchange?

It would be awesome but then no one would pve before 80. They would target achives in pvp till 80 then move on to pve/wvw.

Interesting idea but then the door would be open for the opposite progression:
PvP progression from PvE/WvW. Also the reward system would need an overhaul else fresh 80s would emerge from the mists poor and in level 1 gear…

Draedark.8193:

Interesting idea but then the door would be open for the opposite progression:
PvP progression from PvE/WvW. Also the reward system would need an overhaul else fresh 80s would emerge from the mists poor and in level 1 gear…

Progress how? Rank? Glory? Only mix I would do is the pvp minigames in pve would give glory, maybe a fraction amount for wvw. Though since glory is near useless it wouldnt matter.

ensoriki.5789:

Draedark.8193:

Interesting idea but then the door would be open for the opposite progression:
PvP progression from PvE/WvW. Also the reward system would need an overhaul else fresh 80s would emerge from the mists poor and in level 1 gear…

Progress how? Rank? Glory? Only mix I would do is the pvp minigames in pve would give glory, maybe a fraction amount for wvw. Though since glory is near useless it wouldnt matter.

option to turn PvE gear into PvP gear.

Reikou.7068:

ensoriki.5789:

Draedark.8193:

Interesting idea but then the door would be open for the opposite progression:
PvP progression from PvE/WvW. Also the reward system would need an overhaul else fresh 80s would emerge from the mists poor and in level 1 gear…

Progress how? Rank? Glory? Only mix I would do is the pvp minigames in pve would give glory, maybe a fraction amount for wvw. Though since glory is near useless it wouldnt matter.

option to turn PvE gear into PvP gear.

They still haven’t changed transmutation stones to do so yet?
I remember trying last year, thought that got changed.

You can get laurels in PvP. Did not notice anyone saying that.

Thesilentflute.8761:

It would be awesome but then no one would pve before 80. They would target achives in pvp till 80 then move on to pve/wvw.

but none have the time much to get on 80 as it takes years

Draedark.8193:

Interesting idea but then the door would be open for the opposite progression:
PvP progression from PvE/WvW. Also the reward system would need an overhaul else fresh 80s would emerge from the mists poor and in level 1 gear…

its easy to get geared, you can earn laurels and buy trinkets from it and farm mobs to get gears or do wvwvw

Tenebrous.2451:

You can get laurels in PvP. Did not notice anyone saying that.

ohh yea you can get laurels on PvP, also you can use laurels to buy trinkets, as well getting geared on PvE is quick and easy but it takes time to farm

I would love to see more pve type rewards for pvp players. I think it would encourage more people to play pvp more regularly as well as rewarding players who like to do more than one thing such as myself.

@Topic: In my opinion, PvE and PvP should remain seperated. PvE makes the game, it delivers the lore, the characters and dungeons, PvP is rather a feature, but an important one. You shouldn’t be able to skip parts of PvE by playing constantly PvP. That wouldn’t work, not in Gw2.
I’d be fine if you get skill points in PvP. That would help PvP players to get a smooth start in PvE, as they can learn immediatly the skills they want to get. Maybe some little gold for a tournament would be nice too, as it helps everyone, casual pvp players and high end pvp players. But definitly no equipment and no exp.

Peter Buch.8071:

@Topic: In my opinion, PvE and PvP should remain seperated. PvE makes the game, it delivers the lore, the characters and dungeons, PvP is rather a feature, but an important one. You shouldn’t be able to skip parts of PvE by playing constantly PvP. That wouldn’t work, not in Gw2.
I’d be fine if you get skill points in PvP. That would help PvP players to get a smooth start in PvE, as they can learn immediatly the skills they want to get. Maybe some little gold for a tournament would be nice too, as it helps everyone, casual pvp players and high end pvp players. But definitly no equipment and no exp.

Well I know it should be seperated but atleast they should give PvE rewards that are useful for pvpers that wants to do PVE when nothing else to do in mists, like give us exotics or random items that can be used, like for crafting, plus I mean it would encourage some pvers to do pvp, since pvp is only being played by same players with 2 accounts, will you have any fun playing with same players? or maybe lets say lets pretend we dont know its their 2nd accounts, plus its a great idea to make PvP scene bigger by inviting more players to it, while giving PvE a good balance when pvp players starts to play pve too

Honestly, character progression from PvP is something that should have been in the game from launch. SWTOR had it, and coming from there I was dumbfounded that I couldn’t PvP while still advancing my character at the same time. It’s a design oversight to not have it be that way, and I’m pretty shocked that almost year later there is still no exp gain from doing sPvP.

I can level from 2 to 80 in WvW if I want (and I did it for 3 characters), I don’t see how I would miss some parts of the game if I do the same thing in PvP also. Now they could really say “Play the game the way you want it!”.

You can lv in pvp kind of. You pvp make dies/make dyes/sell dyes/craft level. Gw2crafts.com tells you the exact cost per proff what to make and you gain 10 lv per craft.