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Posted by: Booms.3952

Booms.3952

ranger signets > guardian signets
thief signets > guardian signets
necro signets> guardian signets
warrior signets > guardian signets
mesmer signets > guardian signets
elementalist signets > guardian signets

OMG guardian signets so bad BUFFF GUARD

dh traps > ranger traps

omg NVM GUARD traps so OP NERF1?!!?!1!111

Ranger signets > guardian signets?

You gotta be kidding me.

You got a 30 second stun breaker signet. untraited
You got a Knockdown signet too. 3 freaking seconds.
You have an immob signet too.

Signet of stone? 60 freaking seconds dude.

r u KIDDING ME
how can you complain about bane signet when engineers have PERSON BATTERY RAM.
its on a 25 freaking second cooldown. that’s ltierally like half of bane signet. and it LAUCNEHS not justknocks down. r u srs. it works on downed bodys too?
insane. nerf.

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Posted by: lilz shorty.1879

lilz shorty.1879

Engi hammer>guard hammer, revenant signets > all others, ele shout >guard,warrior,ranger shouts. You can’t compare base specs to elite ones for an argument that it is op

This right here. The amount of ignorance is a bliss in this thread and makes me sick. It’s quite funny how people can rate what goes on in unranked solo q as opposed to legitmate team que with coordination. There will always be something that stomps noobs in solo que. Peoples definition of OP flies out of their mouth so quickly they don’t even know what they are saying.

OP is quite often confused with strong and people have no idea how to differentiate the two. Comparing elite specs to other classes or mechanics of one class to anothers is plain stupid. Anet doesn’t make changes to a class based on another profession because “it’s better than theirs.”

It sounds like im watching some kindergarten children bicker at one another saying “i know you are but what am I” or “I did it because my friends did it.”

Is this how we compare or dictate whats OP now? Has the amount of QQ in the forums become child’s play? It seems like it. I’m hoping Anet is ignoring the amount of whining going on and actually realizes whats going on.

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

Morwath.9817

Engi hammer>guard hammer, revenant signets > all others, ele shout >guard,warrior,ranger shouts. You can’t compare base specs to elite ones for an argument that it is op

This right here. The amount of ignorance is a bliss in this thread and makes me sick. It’s quite funny how people can rate what goes on in unranked solo q as opposed to legitmate team que with coordination. There will always be something that stomps noobs in solo que. Peoples definition of OP flies out of their mouth so quickly they don’t even know what they are saying.

OP is quite often confused with strong and people have no idea how to differentiate the two. Comparing elite specs to other classes or mechanics of one class to anothers is plain stupid. Anet doesn’t make changes to a class based on another profession because “it’s better than theirs.”

It sounds like im watching some kindergarten children bicker at one another saying “i know you are but what am I” or “I did it because my friends did it.”

Is this how we compare or dictate whats OP now? Has the amount of QQ in the forums become child’s play? It seems like it. I’m hoping Anet is ignoring the amount of whining going on and actually realizes whats going on.

Indeed, Anet doesn’t balance game around comparing A:B, even when A & B are supposed to do exacly the same. Thats main reason why balance in GW2 always suck and players are forced to play one of few competitive builds, where we haveless competitive builds than avalible professions.

Your entire argument that “comparing A and B is childish” is simply stupid, just another “leave my DH alone, you already killed Kenny, kittens!” in the thread.

Also, there are no just “op” things. Something is “op” when you compare it something that is “up” and if you want to have balanced game, you have to either nerf “op” or buff “up”, otherwise imbalances remain.

ranger signets > guardian signets
thief signets > guardian signets
necro signets> guardian signets
warrior signets > guardian signets
mesmer signets > guardian signets
elementalist signets > guardian signets

OMG guardian signets so bad BUFFF GUARD

dh traps > ranger traps

omg NVM GUARD traps so OP NERF1?!!?!1!111

Are you trying to say, thats Ranger has more than one good Signet with 80s CD?
Maybe you want also compare inferior Ranger shouts with Guardian shouts? Perhaps in your opinion Ranger shouts are better/so great also?;)

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Posted by: lilz shorty.1879

lilz shorty.1879

Engi hammer>guard hammer, revenant signets > all others, ele shout >guard,warrior,ranger shouts. You can’t compare base specs to elite ones for an argument that it is op

This right here. The amount of ignorance is a bliss in this thread and makes me sick. It’s quite funny how people can rate what goes on in unranked solo q as opposed to legitmate team que with coordination. There will always be something that stomps noobs in solo que. Peoples definition of OP flies out of their mouth so quickly they don’t even know what they are saying.

OP is quite often confused with strong and people have no idea how to differentiate the two. Comparing elite specs to other classes or mechanics of one class to anothers is plain stupid. Anet doesn’t make changes to a class based on another profession because “it’s better than theirs.”

It sounds like im watching some kindergarten children bicker at one another saying “i know you are but what am I” or “I did it because my friends did it.”

Is this how we compare or dictate whats OP now? Has the amount of QQ in the forums become child’s play? It seems like it. I’m hoping Anet is ignoring the amount of whining going on and actually realizes whats going on.

Indeed, Anet doesn’t balance game around comparing A:B, even when A & B are supposed to do exacly the same. Thats main reason why balance in GW2 always suck and players are forced to play one of few competitive builds, where we haveless competitive builds than avalible professions.

Your entire argument that “comparing A and B is childish” is simply stupid, just another “leave my DH alone, you already killed Kenny, kittens!” in the thread.

Also, there are no just “op” things. Something is “op” when you compare it something that is “up” and if you want to have balanced game, you have to either nerf “op” or buff “up”, otherwise imbalances remain.

ranger signets > guardian signets
thief signets > guardian signets
necro signets> guardian signets
warrior signets > guardian signets
mesmer signets > guardian signets
elementalist signets > guardian signets

OMG guardian signets so bad BUFFF GUARD

dh traps > ranger traps

omg NVM GUARD traps so OP NERF1?!!?!1!111

Are you trying to say, thats Ranger has more than one good Signet with 80s CD?
Maybe you want also compare inferior Ranger shouts with Guardian shouts? Perhaps in your opinion Ranger shouts are better/so great also?;)

You just agreed Anet doesn’t balance the game comparing A:B and then you say my statement about it being childish is stupid?

You contradict yourself quite heavily and its not simply stupid at all. What everyone is doing or their arguments as to why they think things are OP are beyond silly. You trying to state that its childish and that i’m simply defending DH so Anet can “leave DH alone” is just childish in itself. My argument about what these forum posters are doing on the forums is simply going based off how they’ve reacted. Not some silly insult or assumption like you just did.

P.S. Booms is trolling and replicating/mocking how some of these people are QQing on the forums, yet you didn’t even realize it. Smh lol

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Posted by: deda.8302

deda.8302

They should unify each utility (wells ,signet,shouts,)in what they can do and make them same for every class and according to that adjust weapons kill.

Leave just one or two class specific utilities.

Narrow purpose of the trait lines: def-off-buff-hp-condi-elite

There will still be difference in armor for each class and class skills but i wouldnt touch that since it defines the class as it is.

Since they will never do this, balance will be hard to achive.
I think they are doing it on purpose , promoting some classes over other, depending on customer demand.

Since HoT is p2w and in it self hot specialistaions are prety balanced,since evry one is op except Wr and thief(latly i can see that ppl complain about thiefs to )
So all in all, if everything is op, everything is prety balanced for HoT players dont you think.

This also reminds me that after new trait spec in june, every one come qq-ing at forums about how every clas 1 shoots evryting and just a month later ,there are posts that its imposible to play this bunker meta,lol

Add confused developers and you have chaotic wars.

Devs say one thing in one patch push a class in a specific role, and in next it is all a bug or nerfed to the ground,look at Druid

MMr is bad since beggining ,after 3 years they fix a bug in it and it worse than it ever was …

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Posted by: brannigan.9831

brannigan.9831

Anet favors burst over bunker. Just look at minstrel. Sad bunker guard I sad. Though to answer your question they will either totally destroy DH with nerfs or tweak traits instead of the noob killer AKA traps. DH whiners whine about the traps so if anet listens they will Nerf most of the aspects of DH in the next balance patch.

Abjured favors burst over bunker so A-net does. Karl has autographed pictures of there in game characters on his bed room wall.

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Posted by: Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

If only A-net. Would get rid of the kitten Daze. U could atleast justify the fury you get on procession of blades. Which is really why u nearly get oneshotted.

I for the love of god do not understand how in the kittening world u can kittening CC on such high damaging traps on top of getting boons. How the kitten do justify dragons maw keeping you in for 6 kittening seconds+plus daze.

This is not an issue. No the DH is tailored so that the moment you get in one of his traps. Escaping is such an pain the kitten .

And people still have the nerf to call it a L2P Issue? Don’t get hit? That’s the general response here. Absurd. How kittening absurd. we are not even discussing counters. No we are discussing on how to not get hit while figthing a dragonhunter.

Currently, amongst all classes. We are discussing on how to counter it. But with DH. If you are an average player. You simply don’t need to get hit.

It’s such an easy to play class. I play guard and I love DH. but those traps. Like atleasst if you find removing daze too much all together. Atleast replace it with cripple. so that you can atleast dodge the brunt of the attacks. And for the love of god reduce dragons maw duration.

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Posted by: Vanthian.9267

Vanthian.9267

All these complaints about DH are ridiculous. Reapers, Scrappers, Druids and Chronos are far worse than DH. Given equal skill, if you aren’t one of the “Top 4” you lose. Druids can just stand on point and straight up out heal the traps damage.

Reapers can deal 24k damage in 2 minutes if you have chill on you with 0 condition damage while face tanking everything you have with no worries. Yet taking 5k-6k crits from a barrier you have to trigger, and only lasts 6 seconds at most, is a issue. This is the same exact situation as the Elementalist “Fire Ring” skill.

The only profession that should have a hard time with Dragon Hunter is Thief/DD.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

The only profession that should have a hard time with Dragon Hunter is Thief/DD.

..and Warriors

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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

All these complains about DH are redundant.

Medi guard has always had to much damage for it’s survivabillity 1v1 (balanced by being heavily c/d dependent), now it just trades off for AoE and isn’t terrible at team fights.

This isn’t bad per-se

imo if anything is to be changed:

1. Flashing blade + Judge’s Intervention should require line of sight.

2. Traps can’t be stacked/overlapping in the same spot and must wait for the full activation and duration before another one can be dropped in that spot.

I think the base power is fine.

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