You can setup your own PvP arena for Dueling – Invite the person, DONE.
People want open world dueling so that they can be irritants. They want to be able to harass others and flex their kittens. They want to roll flavor of the month dueling builds, play their scissors and specifically hunt down their paper to cut, then crow about how awesome they are.
Otherwise, they’d be fine with specific arenas where they could easily find other people like them. But that would mean they’d actually have to fight other people who are built for dueling… and well, they can’t have THAT.
That Goldshire example I mentioned earlier? There’s a reason that dueling crowd hangs out in a low-level zone, and it’s not because it’s easy to find others duelists. It’s so that they can harass “easy marks”, low level players who are either new to the game or new to a certain class and might not know everything about it.
Straight up untrue. Sorry you had a bad experience that one time.
People hang out there because it’s right outside a major city.
Anyway, I suggest you stop worrying about how other play and whether or not they choose to duel. It’s really none of your business.
It’s my business if it affects me, and it affected me. I don’t really care if I can block people in chat or not. It’s obnoxious to have some teenage cretin badmouthing me in local chat because I refuse to duel him. It’s not why I play games. And yes, I did block him, but I still find it obnoxious.
This is the kind of player that dueling invites to the community. It ruins the community not just for me, but for the dozens of others who feel like I do. This isn’t something we made up inconvenience people. We feel this way due to our experience with players like that. Same with open world PvP.
Sure, I can ignore them. But they don’t make the game more fun for me, and they DO affect some people a lot more than they affect me. I’d probably rather have the affected people to play with than the griefers.
So I say no to dueling.
I had a similar case with you.
Everyone keeps begging me for gold.
It’s my business if it affects me, and it affected me. I don’t really care if I can block people in chat or not. It’s obnoxious to have some teenage cretin badmouthing me in local chat because I refuse to give him gold. It’s not why I play games. And yes, I did block him, but I still find it obnoxious.
This is the kind of player that gold invites to the community. It ruins the community not just for me, but for the dozens of others who feel like I do. This isn’t something we made up inconvenience people. We feel this way due to our experience with players like that. Same with other currencies like etco in gw1.
Sure, I can ignore them. But they don’t make the game more fun for me, and they DO affect some people a lot more than they affect me. I’d probably rather have the affected people to play with than the beggars.
So I say no to gold.
You can setup your own PvP arena for Dueling – Invite the person, DONE.
People want open world dueling so that they can be irritants. They want to be able to harass others and flex their kittens. They want to roll flavor of the month dueling builds, play their scissors and specifically hunt down their paper to cut, then crow about how awesome they are.
Otherwise, they’d be fine with specific arenas where they could easily find other people like them. But that would mean they’d actually have to fight other people who are built for dueling… and well, they can’t have THAT.
That Goldshire example I mentioned earlier? There’s a reason that dueling crowd hangs out in a low-level zone, and it’s not because it’s easy to find others duelists. It’s so that they can harass “easy marks”, low level players who are either new to the game or new to a certain class and might not know everything about it.
Straight up untrue. Sorry you had a bad experience that one time.
People hang out there because it’s right outside a major city.
Anyway, I suggest you stop worrying about how other play and whether or not they choose to duel. It’s really none of your business.
It’s my business if it affects me, and it affected me. I don’t really care if I can block people in chat or not. It’s obnoxious to have some teenage cretin badmouthing me in local chat because I refuse to duel him. It’s not why I play games. And yes, I did block him, but I still find it obnoxious.
This is the kind of player that dueling invites to the community. It ruins the community not just for me, but for the dozens of others who feel like I do. This isn’t something we made up inconvenience people. We feel this way due to our experience with players like that. Same with open world PvP.
Sure, I can ignore them. But they don’t make the game more fun for me, and they DO affect some people a lot more than they affect me. I’d probably rather have the affected people to play with than the griefers.
So I say no to dueling.
I had a similar case with you.
Everyone keeps begging me for gold.
It’s my business if it affects me, and it affected me. I don’t really care if I can block people in chat or not. It’s obnoxious to have some teenage cretin badmouthing me in local chat because I refuse to give him gold. It’s not why I play games. And yes, I did block him, but I still find it obnoxious.
This is the kind of player that gold invites to the community. It ruins the community not just for me, but for the dozens of others who feel like I do. This isn’t something we made up inconvenience people. We feel this way due to our experience with players like that. Same with other currencies like etco in gw1.
Sure, I can ignore them. But they don’t make the game more fun for me, and they DO affect some people a lot more than they affect me. I’d probably rather have the affected people to play with than the beggars.
So I say no to gold.
Bravo sir. Bravo.
Don’t understand why they don’t just have a separate PvP server for those that think it would be fun? Then you wouldn’t have to even see any of us ‘toxic’ players on your server? Also, it could be fun end content- switch to an open PvP server when you have a bunch of leveled characters for more challenging gameplay, would refresh all of the game world for some of us.
I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the MMO dream.
I have a dream that one day this game will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created with an equal desire to duel one another.”
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Guild Wars 2, the sons of former players and the sons of former designers and programmers will be able to sit down together at their computer tables and duel each other.
I have a dream that one day even the great town of Lions Arch, a hub of injustice, conflicts and unholy alliances all sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and duels.
I have a dream that my four little alt’s will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their armor or the level of their rank, but by the content on their character and the positive nature of their duels.
I have a dream today.
Please help better this world.
Please vote for duels.
Dueling anywhere in the game would be a great addition for the reasons listed by TamTiTam.
The only prerequisite needed would to have a ’Duel Requests On/Off" button, which was automatically set to off for brand new players.
Two people dueling near an event would scale up the event even if they weren’t participating. That means less people doing a harder event, because two people choose to dual there.
That’s not acceptable. The areas in which you duel should not have events for this reason.
Lol what? Do you even realize how weak an argument this is? Two people doing anything near an event be it gathering or just chatting or AFK would scale up an event. And since when are world events in this game hard?
Not to mention the fact that Arenanet could easily make people in duels not count toward event scaling.
Also, as I figured, from your later reply to dark catalyst, the real reason you dont want duels implemented is because you are afraid of being challenged to a duel and then badmouthed because you decline.
Well, how about just saying “Sorry, I don’t like duels.” And block the person.
Pretty much the only reason why people are against duels is:
They had terrible experiences in previous games where they got horribly trolled and probably cried themselves to sleep.
You people need to realize that any sort of new content has griefing / toxicity potential. Fractals, new dungeons, ascended gear, etc. ‘Toxic’ (I hate that word) people will always be around, it’s not like dueling would suddenly corrupt everyone.
The other reasons I’ve seen brought up are downright laughable, sorry.
At the end of the day it comes down to this: If you don’t like it, don’t do it. Nobody is forcing you to duel while you are denying a very large amount of people the right to have fun. Dueling has always been a feature present in mmos and this might sound harsh but the reason why it’s not here isn’t because you anti-duelers didn’t want to, it’s because ANet hasn’t implemented it yet due to time constraints.
With that out of the way, I’m gonna add my 2c on the dueling must have features / Restrictions:
-Disabled by default, but have hints for beginners that point out the existence of this feature.
-Disabled in cities (LA, Black citadel, Rata sum, etc)
-Create special arenas where you can duel / open world pvp (spread across the map and 1 in LA)
-All boons are removed as the duel countdown begins
-Do not keep any sort of dueling statistic or achievement in the profile (maybe a daily category at most like “win a duel”)
-Disable downed status for duels
-Duel automatically ends if either party start regenerating their health due to being out of combat. The player that is farthest from the dueling starting point (flag) is the loser.
That’d be all I think.
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Since the last post was locked, i understand why dueling isn’t implemented.
Sorry i mentioned money in my last post
And its not implemented because everything different in Guild Wars 2 is to prevent as much fighting and raging as possible, and that’s great. Like simple mining nodes, how many games can people mine the same node together and not have to fight over who’s first.
If open world dueling was introduced, there will always be someone to cry, and complain, and say this is too strong this is too weak, and create diversity. We may not like some of things done in this game, but if you look at the big picture, its a much more health universe here. Anet knows what their doing.
hey guys, its me Scrambles, your friendly open world duels advocate. Here is the thread-killing interview link i post in every duel thread. Skip to 14:11 if the video doesn’t start from there.
Considering this game is largely based around cosmetic sidegrades and we are just getting the wardrobe more than a year after the games release, i would project duels to be implemented in about another year, or after the second living story.
But the important part is that there is strong evidence that Anet is fully in favor of open world duels. They just gotta figure out how to make money off of it without driving everyone from the game :P
Dueling is must have on every mmorpg online. Its really weird there is no that option in gw2.
Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
If you don’t like dueling, and you reject any duels, wtf do you even care what “everyone will be running”. If you are playing dungeons/ other pve content, what do these ‘hard counters’ have to do with you?
Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
If you don’t like dueling, and you reject any duels, wtf do you even care what “everyone will be running”. If you are playing dungeons/ other pve content, what do these ‘hard counters’ have to do with you?
Because it is the reason why i don’t enjoy dueling, if people don’t just run hard counter dueling yolo builds, i will be enjoying quite a lot since it will be more skill related and not hard counter yolo build wars 2, i mean what’s the point of dueling if you just run yolo hard counter dueling builds and faceroll to win, like seriously.
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Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
If you don’t like dueling, and you reject any duels, wtf do you even care what “everyone will be running”. If you are playing dungeons/ other pve content, what do these ‘hard counters’ have to do with you?
Because it is the reason why i don’t enjoy dueling, if people don’t just run hard counter dueling yolo builds, i will be enjoying quite a lot since it will be more skill related and not hard counter yolo build wars 2, i mean what’s the point of dueling if you just run yolo hard counter dueling builds and faceroll to win, like seriously.
If you want to win goto spvp where it matters.
Duels are just for fun and experimenting with builds without having to fully commit yourself to zoning to another area, while enjoying the present scenery and also you don’t have to die and respawn.
If someone is running a cheap, hard counter and you don’t like it don’t duel them, lol.
Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
If you don’t like dueling, and you reject any duels, wtf do you even care what “everyone will be running”. If you are playing dungeons/ other pve content, what do these ‘hard counters’ have to do with you?
Because it is the reason why i don’t enjoy dueling, if people don’t just run hard counter dueling yolo builds, i will be enjoying quite a lot since it will be more skill related and not hard counter yolo build wars 2, i mean what’s the point of dueling if you just run yolo hard counter dueling builds and faceroll to win, like seriously.
Wait wait wait. So you would enjoy dueling quite a lot except you are afraid of people playing hard counters? In your assumed future where only yolo and hard counters would exist for dueling, wouldn’t you be able to look at the person requesting and duel and prob tell if they were a class that would hard counter you? If yes, then don’t fight them. If no, then they probably don’t know what you are playing either… so they couldn’t know if they hard counter you…?
Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
This sounds like…
I like Chicken because I hate vegetables.
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Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
If you don’t like dueling, and you reject any duels, wtf do you even care what “everyone will be running”. If you are playing dungeons/ other pve content, what do these ‘hard counters’ have to do with you?
Because it is the reason why i don’t enjoy dueling, if people don’t just run hard counter dueling yolo builds, i will be enjoying quite a lot since it will be more skill related and not hard counter yolo build wars 2, i mean what’s the point of dueling if you just run yolo hard counter dueling builds and faceroll to win, like seriously.
Wait wait wait. So you would enjoy dueling quite a lot except you are afraid of people playing hard counters? In your assumed future where only yolo and hard counters would exist for dueling, wouldn’t you be able to look at the person requesting and duel and prob tell if they were a class that would hard counter you? If yes, then don’t fight them. If no, then they probably don’t know what you are playing either… so they couldn’t know if they hard counter you…?
What? i don’t know if it’s my understanding, or your comment just didn’t make sense..
Ever stop and think about why dueling is a heavily requested feature by none other than Thieves and Mesmers mains?
Coincidence? I think not.
Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
If you don’t like dueling, and you reject any duels, wtf do you even care what “everyone will be running”. If you are playing dungeons/ other pve content, what do these ‘hard counters’ have to do with you?
Because it is the reason why i don’t enjoy dueling, if people don’t just run hard counter dueling yolo builds, i will be enjoying quite a lot since it will be more skill related and not hard counter yolo build wars 2, i mean what’s the point of dueling if you just run yolo hard counter dueling builds and faceroll to win, like seriously.
If you want to win goto spvp where it matters.
Duels are just for fun and experimenting with builds without having to fully commit yourself to zoning to another area, while enjoying the present scenery and also you don’t have to die and respawn.
If someone is running a cheap, hard counter and you don’t like it don’t duel them, lol.
That’s the problem, you won’t duel your hard counters nor cheese builds, or you can retrait and hard counter them back, but then they wouldn’t want to duel you or they can also retrait, it’s just this endless loop of Build Wars 2, where skill is not included.
There’s also the cheese dueling build, which “hard counters” everybody in a duel, every thieves will just be running shadow rejunv just like in WvW, every mesmer will just run PU.
worse part is people will brag about it, just like people in hot join, i doubt people in wvw or pve will be any different, just like some hotjoiners, they think they actually beat you in duel because of skill, not because they are running PU mesmer, MM necro or w/e
I like Chicken because I hate vegetables.
No, more like i would enjoy chicken if they stop putting mushroom in it, i hate mushroom btw lol.
personally im not against dueling, but all those hard counters, cheese dueling build in the game, i would not blame people for using them, because it no use, i only blame anet for implanting them.
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Ever stop and think about why dueling is a heavily requested feature by none other than Thieves and Mesmers mains?
Coincidence? I think not.
I main a guard. So… I don’t know why you are just making things up… at least other anti-duelers put up their straw man, you just commented to be included?
Also.
What? i don’t know if it’s my understanding, or your comment just didn’t make sense..
It must have been your understanding of English, because you said:
…if people don’t just run hard counter dueling yolo builds, i will be enjoying quite a lot since it will be more skill related and not hard counter yolo build wars 2….
So I said:
Wait wait wait. So you would enjoy dueling quite a lot except you are afraid of people playing hard counters?….
Then I created a hypothetical situation in which your counter argument fails to hold up.
Dueling is not fun in GW2, everyone will just be running 1v1 hard counter builds.
If you don’t like dueling, and you reject any duels, wtf do you even care what “everyone will be running”. If you are playing dungeons/ other pve content, what do these ‘hard counters’ have to do with you?
Because it is the reason why i don’t enjoy dueling, if people don’t just run hard counter dueling yolo builds, i will be enjoying quite a lot since it will be more skill related and not hard counter yolo build wars 2, i mean what’s the point of dueling if you just run yolo hard counter dueling builds and faceroll to win, like seriously.
If you want to win goto spvp where it matters.
Duels are just for fun and experimenting with builds without having to fully commit yourself to zoning to another area, while enjoying the present scenery and also you don’t have to die and respawn.
If someone is running a cheap, hard counter and you don’t like it don’t duel them, lol.
That’s the problem, you won’t duel your hard counters nor cheese builds, or you can retrait and hard counter them back, but then they wouldn’t want to duel you or they can also retrait, it’s just this endless loop of Build Wars 2, where skill is not included.
There’s also the cheese dueling build, which “hard counters” everybody in a duel, every thieves will just be running shadow rejunv just like in WvW, every mesmer will just run PU.
worse part is people will brag about it, just like people in hot join, i doubt people in wvw or pve will be any different, just like some hotjoiners, they think they actually beat you in duel because of skill, not because they are running PU mesmer, MM necro or w/eI like Chicken because I hate vegetables.
No, more like i would enjoy chicken if they stop putting mushroom in it, i hate mushroom btw lol.
personally im not against dueling, but all those hard counters, cheese dueling build in the game, i would not blame people for using them, because it no use, i only blame anet for implanting them.
No.
It is more like, I hate chicken because I like vegetable.
They are unrelated and doesn’t make sense.
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