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Posted by: Mak.2657

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Posted by: Bacon.4918

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The patch hasn’t even been out for 2 days… Some of you should really try adapting rather than instantly coming to the forums and asking for changes.

Personally, I have no problem with any of the elite skills.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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I wouldn’t put Lich at a 6 second interval, it ends up making it extremely vulnerable to CC again, since you’d just steal the stab and then CC chain them. Chances are they won’t last till the next pulse of stability anyway, because 6s of no stability in a form that has no defense is ages. Just put RaO to 1 stab per 3 like Lich.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

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elites are finally working well as intended.

they fixed what was broken in the first place and now people are complaining?

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Posted by: crunchyraisin.6054

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These offensive forms still have counterplay guys…

Rampage: kite it….dodge the 3 skill and the 5 skill, blind, block, steal diversion and corrupt boon still apply their cc’s.

Lich: Blinds, blocks, reflects, use terrain, steal, diversion and corrupt boon still apply their cc’s.

Elites are elites…they are not auto wins against good players.

I’ll concede the are overpowered….I really like the idea of 5-6 seconds instead of 3.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

elites are finally working well as intended.

they fixed what was broken in the first place and now people are complaining?

^

People are so used to most of the classes having trash Elites. And when they finally make elite abit more powerful they cry so much, despite not knowing they can just run away fro 20 seconds and come back afterward because the CD of those Elites are like 120~180 cd.

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Posted by: Mak.2657

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So you mean basically counterplay is some form of kiting? 20 sec of kiting in conquest game?

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

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So you mean basically counterplay is some form of kiting? 20 sec of kiting in conquest game?

Surprise surprise! All classes have those big CD skills. You can use it, and they can use it too! So it’s not only one side has OP skill yknow?

Oh? Yours on CD? Fair enough, you probably forced someone away with your elite earlier, so it’s their turn to scare you away no?

Or you want no trade-off, that you can scare people away with your elite, while other people’s elite just need to be suck and easily countered by your skills without using your elite? Is that fair?

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Posted by: Mak.2657

Mak.2657

Do we need OP skills at all? I prefer balanced and counterplayable. Ok, let’s have some time to adapt and see how it works. But don’t like idea of devaluation of boon-ripping play so hard.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

Do we need OP skills at all? I prefer balanced and counterplayable. Ok, let’s have some time to adapt and see how it works. But don’t like idea of devaluation of boon-ripping play so hard.

Well, then maybe you can ask Anet to rework the Elite skill, make them like GW1 version of Elite skills, very short CD, but the effect is just relatively stronger than normal skills.

Tbh I like that type of design much more.

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Posted by: Mak.2657

Mak.2657

I mean elite doesn’t have to be OP. It can be strong, but not OP (in team comp). It’s good thing that anet buffed them, but mb better not so strong

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Posted by: sinject.4607

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Eh personally I know the ranger needs something but having it reliant on just a few very powerful abilities is bad design.

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Posted by: Exedore.6320

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I’m fine with how stability works on elites now. However, the number of stacks may need some tuning and possibly the strength of the elite.

As a general rule, I think offensive elites should be 1, maybe 2 stacks every 3 sec whereas defensive ones can be 3. Lich is probably the best example of how the stability change improved the elite for the user while adding more counter-play at the same time.

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Posted by: MyPuppy.8970

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Posted by: Quadox.7834

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To be fair, most elites aren’t overly strong. Supply crate, however is much better which much less counterplay. I’d rather have elites have more counterplay.

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Posted by: kylwilson.9137

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Long story short, Moa Morph has come back into play. Even if Warrior’s endure pain still triggers whilst transformed into a moa (seriously what is this crap?).

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Posted by: MarauderShields.6830

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I wonder how many rangers defending the pulsing stability are also demanding basilisk neom to hit through stab, invul, evade and blocks. After all, it’s an elite and should be strong.

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Posted by: Roe.3679

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Guys did you know that weak classes saw some improvement with these changes? Let’s all go the forums and make sure Anet knows that we prefer to have some easy kills in pvp! I mean sometimes fighting all these cele classes gets tiring, we deserve a break with necros and rangers!

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

I wonder how many rangers defending the pulsing stability are also demanding basilisk neom to hit through stab, invul, evade and blocks. After all, it’s an elite and should be strong.

And it’s not like zerk mesmer, ranger, and necro can shake thief off the meta zzz.
The hypocrisy is real.

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Posted by: Jelzouki.4128

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i think elites are fine as is, if you want to complain about an auto-win elite, you look at Moa Form, not rampage as one, or rampage(warrior), or lich form, or supply crate. you can escape from all of these EXCEPT moa form. you can’t argue “dodge moa form” because dodges can be baited and just count when your opponent is out of dodges, there , dead.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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i think elites are fine as is, if you want to complain about an auto-win elite, you look at Moa Form, not rampage as one, or rampage(warrior), or lich form, or supply crate. you can escape from all of these EXCEPT moa form. you can’t argue “dodge moa form” because dodges can be baited and just count when your opponent is out of dodges, there , dead.

Well, if it’s 1v1, then enjoy pecking the mesmer to death.

If it’s a team fight, you have the same options as when there is a Lich. Leave, dodge, los or die. The difference is, Moa lockes out player, Lich can kitten the whole team.

Thing is teams can deal with Lich easily, still. But A LOT of the newer players will just stay at the point and die even though they have nothing to counter it.

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Posted by: Korusef.3714

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Moa won’t kill you, it will even give you nice dodge/speed skills.

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Posted by: Sekai.2987

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i´m reading how everyone has these awesome elites , now even more awesome and i´m sitting here with my ele thinking “one day i will also get an elite which make ppl scared”…..instead of screaming “LICH UP, I´M MOA, kittenING CRATE” in ts , ppl will be screaming “FGS UP”, i know the day will come…

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

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i´m reading how everyone has these awesome elites , now even more awesome and i´m sitting here with my ele thinking “one day i will also get an elite which make ppl scared”…..instead of screaming “LICH UP, I´M MOA, kittenING CRATE” in ts , ppl will be screaming “FGS UP”, i know the day will come…

It came and went. Sorry you missed it.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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i´m reading how everyone has these awesome elites , now even more awesome and i´m sitting here with my ele thinking “one day i will also get an elite which make ppl scared”…..instead of screaming “LICH UP, I´M MOA, kittenING CRATE” in ts , ppl will be screaming “FGS UP”, i know the day will come…

It came and went. Sorry you missed it.

I was going to say… How could you miss the FGS Flash-Rush one shots lol. That stuff was crazy.

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