Guild Wars 2

Many keep saying that blowout games happen because MMR is not sorted out yet. But after a while the effects of the MMR reset will go away, everyone will move to their divison indicative of their skill level and we get more balanced games. We are well into the season now and the thing still happens a lot. I think we should be looking for an other explanation…

Nimrud.5642:

Many keep saying that blowout games happen because MMR is not sorted out yet. But after a while the effects of the MMR reset will go away, everyone will move to their divison indicative of their skill level and we get more balanced games. We are well into the season now and the thing still happens a lot. I think we should be looking for an other explanation…

They have not reseted MMR omg.

Raek.8504:

Nimrud.5642:

Many keep saying that blowout games happen because MMR is not sorted out yet. But after a while the effects of the MMR reset will go away, everyone will move to their divison indicative of their skill level and we get more balanced games. We are well into the season now and the thing still happens a lot. I think we should be looking for an other explanation…

They have not reseted MMR omg.

Yeah, I was loling that one too… unless they remove the “can’t loose tier” safe guard we are going to wait a loooooong time…

PadreNike.1803:

Celine.6857:

I have lost count at the number of games we’ve lost (my husband and I queue together when not a guild team).

It does quite simply make it, not fun.

But, why are we losing? Why do people we queue with do some of the most stupidest things we ever see IN PvP, such as:

- Not have the BASIC knowledge of capping and defending two points
- Not having the ENTIRE team leave mid to go and help a 1v1 on close, leaving mid free for the 4 others on the enemy team
- Not watch the kitten map and see who needs help and where
- Not efficiently rotate
- Not CALL OR FOCUS targets
- What is with the NEED for an entire team to stomp ONE downed player rather than working as a team and working around the others on the node to prevent rezzes or CCs or, idk, here’s a radical thought, finish ANOTHER downed player, or rez a team mate, or GET BACK ON THE POINT if decapped
- Not discuss strategy beforehand
- Not communicate throughout match, aside from flaming players
- Go AFK because they lose their own first fight

These BASICS we seem to lack, whoever is on our team. Wherever we go, the other team has the coordination and the back-up and our team is screwing around suiciding themselves going into a 1v4 mid one after the other coming out of base. It makes no sense.

Or is it us?!

What don’t you make a gameplay video for both you and your husband? Yes people have been tough on OP (justifiably so) but also gave him some very good feedback, if you’re brave enough record some gameplay so we can see where the problem is.

Here we are, finally. PLEASE note the following:
- My PC is not a gaming PC (hoping to upgrade this year) so please please accept apologies for the poor quality. It took all night to upload and is better quality without sound. But you can see my skills, you can see others’ and their icons, you just can’t read their names and chat (which is probably fair) anyway!

Also, this is one match. I recorded about 4 others, but the time it takes to upload, I just can’t justify posting more. I recall this particular ‘round’ of PvP, I won 2 and lost 3. Our current win/loss ratio is much more 50/50 which leaves us hanging at the end of Sapphire right now.

https://youtu.be/0PHVMtw1giQ

Riku.1093:

New screenshot. At least the last few games have been somewhat better.

Did you seriously run 2 shouts and 3 cantrips?

@Celine.6857:

I won’t comment on how to play ele as i main thief and i wouldn’t dare to do so. So just general remarks:

- begin of the match – you are ele, your job is sit on point and support teammates – yet you went to stomp downed guy somewhere away from point when you already had teammates follow dead guy -> don’t do it, it is not your main job unless guy got downed on point

- you wiped enemy at begin, chances are they will spawn and might rush your home -> send someone there to watch it right after you wiped enemy team (and yep it got decapped while i was typing this lol)

- for point above, if enemy has semi decent thief your home will be ALWAYS decapped you have to dedicate someone (druid preferably) to sit between home and mid to go to home fast enuff <<tell it to your teammates

- once again you fight/ran off point when enemy came mid. Rule number 1 in conquest point > all. Don’t fight off roads, always keep your point in vision so you can charge there to hold it in time. You are ele not thief or rev to chase enemies.

- set targets (use keybind for it) it will help team to focus one guy. Usually ele is not a good target, focus dps first.

- mid was lost, it was good to go far for sure

- once again you are too busy with stomping instead of trying to decap point, you have knockbacks and CC, use them; you could have had decap at mid but you chose to go off point and stomp some guy

- you saw that your necro was going far, you should have stalled enemy ele instead of leading him to far point

- once again you guys leave home open all the time and enemy thief can decap it all day

- once again at the end of the video you leave point for offroads fights, don’t do that – far got decapped because of it

and stop dogde and double dogde just to get there 1/2 sec faster . its a really bad habbit.
That clicking hurts my eyes

You should read the description of the video before complaining about the clicking …

UmbraNoctis.1907:

You should read the description of the video before complaining about the clicking …

was definitely my bad, i read only forum post, didn’t read youtube description, edited post

Cynz.9437:

@Celine.6857:

I won’t comment on how to play ele as i main thief and i wouldn’t dare to do so. So just general remarks:

- begin of the match – you are ele, your job is sit on point and support teammates – yet you went to stomp downed guy somewhere away from point when you already had teammates follow dead guy -> don’t do it, it is not your main job unless guy got downed on point

I will say one thing here – try to remember this is one match only. It is easy to comment on something when you’re not the one playing. In this instance you’re absolutely right, but during that match I actually didn’t notice the other guy who was there – and I was unaware he was watching to go and stomp. Usually, I literally help down people and run to help elsewhere, I hate wasting my skills to stomp. This is solid advice.

Cynz.9437:

- you wiped enemy at begin, chances are they will spawn and might rush your home -> send someone there to watch it right after you wiped enemy team (and yep it got decapped while i was typing this lol)

- for point above, if enemy has semi decent thief your home will be ALWAYS decapped you have to dedicate someone (druid preferably) to sit between home and mid to go to home fast enuff <<tell it to your teammates

These are things my TEAM should be aware of; its not my position to tell everyone what to do, and more to the point, I am desperately hitting skills with basically one big finger, let alone able to type every second to tell everyone what to do. Again though, solid advice. I ALWAYS ALWAYS tell any team beforehand if there is an opposition thief to watch close.

Cynz.9437:

- once again you fight/ran off point when enemy came mid. Rule number 1 in conquest point > all. Don’t fight off roads, always keep your point in vision so you can charge there to hold it in time. You are ele not thief or rev to chase enemies.

VERY good point in this particular match, yes. However, my other team mate who was also mid, did also run off point. Again remember, this is one match in hundreds I’ve played differently, some better, some a lot worse lol

Cynz.9437:

- set targets (use keybind for it) it will help team to focus one guy. Usually ele is not a good target, focus dps first.

This was one of the points I put in my original comment to this thread. I set a list of things PvPers don’t do. When very hectic like this, it is hard for me to find and call the correct target. But, if I can do it on occasion why doesn’t anyone else?

Cynz.9437:

- mid was lost, it was good to go far for sure

Thank you, I appreciate that. After reviewing the vid with my husband, he also said the same thing. I expected people here to flame that decision and to say I should’ve helped close. But, close was fine and I did decap far. Thanks for that.

Cynz.9437:

- once again you are too busy with stomping instead of trying to decap point, you have knockbacks and CC, use them; you could have had decap at mid but you chose to go off point and stomp some guy

I’m not entirely sure where you mean here, if this was mid after I decapped far, I didn’t stomp anyone, I merely helped my team mates by overloading air. It does look like I am high animation of a stomp though. I was also positioning myself to be close to my team mates for help and to be there should they be interrupted. Yes you can see the ‘F’ to stomp, but I am actuall just overloading air.

But, if you’re talking about the ele on far, the only reason I went for them is because I can blink up to him to eliminate him as fast as possible, whereas the necro can’t. Again, I will only stomp if literally no one else is/can.

Cynz.9437:

- you saw that your necro was going far, you should have stalled enemy ele instead of leading him to far point

I actually disagree with this. This would have caused me to be fighting off point, and we eliminated the ele faster because we were 2 on the ele before others came out. Maybe he could’ve had more time to cap, but then we’d have had 2v2. I believe I did right here. We can agree to disagree

Cynz.9437:

- once again you guys leave home open all the time and enemy thief can decap it all day

Again not my fault, but here – this was where I did actually manage to type in chat (and you can’t see this due to my crap quality) “KEEP HOME” – that is one of the reasons we turned that match round to win. The guard did do well though to decap mid before this.

Cynz.9437:

- once again at the end of the video you leave point for offroads fights, don’t do that – far got decapped because of it

I disagree with this 100%, for this match. If I hadn’t have gone for boss, we’d have lost the match. That was what tipped it for a win. I was in two minds whether to help my team mate with the boss, or just prevent the ele getting her foot on the boss, but I thought, to hell with it, this is basically luck now – we get the boss we win, they get it, they win… and 2 of us on the boss… we won. If this had been much earlier in the match, no way would I have left the point when one guy is already trying to grab boss, definitely better to keep the point, I agree.

Thank you for the feedback and I hope others read some of it as most of it, is what my team mates are doing…

Hansen.3264:

and stop dogde and double dogde just to get there 1/2 sec faster . its a really bad habbit.
That clicking hurts my eyes

Just an accidental double click… sorry for your eyes lol

My advice for people stuck on lower divisions. Switch to something very high on dps you can play well. This way, you can tilt the scales by yourself!

For me thats a thief. But a longbow ranger would work even better I think. Check out the ‘Where is this MMR hell’ thread. In the first post you can see how a good dps can dominate games.

Celine.6857:

PadreNike.1803:

Celine.6857:

I have lost count at the number of games we’ve lost (my husband and I queue together when not a guild team).

It does quite simply make it, not fun.

But, why are we losing? Why do people we queue with do some of the most stupidest things we ever see IN PvP, such as:

- Not have the BASIC knowledge of capping and defending two points
- Not having the ENTIRE team leave mid to go and help a 1v1 on close, leaving mid free for the 4 others on the enemy team
- Not watch the kitten map and see who needs help and where
- Not efficiently rotate
- Not CALL OR FOCUS targets
- What is with the NEED for an entire team to stomp ONE downed player rather than working as a team and working around the others on the node to prevent rezzes or CCs or, idk, here’s a radical thought, finish ANOTHER downed player, or rez a team mate, or GET BACK ON THE POINT if decapped
- Not discuss strategy beforehand
- Not communicate throughout match, aside from flaming players
- Go AFK because they lose their own first fight

These BASICS we seem to lack, whoever is on our team. Wherever we go, the other team has the coordination and the back-up and our team is screwing around suiciding themselves going into a 1v4 mid one after the other coming out of base. It makes no sense.

Or is it us?!

What don’t you make a gameplay video for both you and your husband? Yes people have been tough on OP (justifiably so) but also gave him some very good feedback, if you’re brave enough record some gameplay so we can see where the problem is.

Here we are, finally. PLEASE note the following:
- My PC is not a gaming PC (hoping to upgrade this year) so please please accept apologies for the poor quality. It took all night to upload and is better quality without sound. But you can see my skills, you can see others’ and their icons, you just can’t read their names and chat (which is probably fair) anyway!

Also, this is one match. I recorded about 4 others, but the time it takes to upload, I just can’t justify posting more. I recall this particular ‘round’ of PvP, I won 2 and lost 3. Our current win/loss ratio is much more 50/50 which leaves us hanging at the end of Sapphire right now.

https://youtu.be/0PHVMtw1giQ

First :20 seconds of the video.

Uses heal when everyone is near full health.
Uses rebound, not sure why.
Uses obsidian flesh to stomp ele.

Haven’t watched anything beyond that point.

You’re better than OP, but not by much.