Fix Hotjoin already
are you on about the ridiculously exploitable spectator + team select?
if so i whole-heartedly agree, and i’ll be extremely disappointed if a fix isn’t in the feature patch.
It has no priority to make GW2 PvP good by fixing hotjoin. Please.
Ninov Ftw
It has no priority to make GW2 PvP good by fixing hotjoin. Please.
So you have the authority to decide what parts have priority over others? Don’t make me laugh!
Hotjoin is more than broken and deserves some attention.
It has no priority to make GW2 PvP good by fixing hotjoin. Please.
So you have the authority to decide what parts have priority over others? Don’t make me laugh!
Hotjoin is more than broken and deserves some attention.
It’s just the zoo for pvers. I don’t have that at all, just shared my opinion as you did.
Ninov Ftw
remove hj.
fixed
It has no priority to make GW2 PvP good by fixing hotjoin. Please.
Except that Hotjoin is every player’s first experience in SPVP.
If they show up and get farmed by people exploiting the system for an hour they are going to leave and never come back. Hotjoin being in the state it’s in is choking the SPVP community and making it almost impossible to grow larger.
Today’s noobs are tomorrow’s veterans. Their early experience with SPVP is a lot more important to the game mode’s well being than people seem willing to believe.
I’ve never done hotjoin. I think people should be forced to hop into the queue right from the start and work up from there.
Then you did a huge disservice to your teammates as you jumped into a competitive game mode with an untested build and no PVP experience in this game outside WvWvW.
There needs to be somewhere you can play unranked SPVP matches so new players can learn the game mode and older players can test new builds. When I make a new build and want to see how it performs I’m certainly not going to take it into a ranked match and risk bringing down my whole team.
Hotjoin is very important as a safe place for people interested in PvP to hop in, and get some experience fighting other players. It is crucial that players enjoy hotjoin so that they get interested in better competition. It is imperative that players have a low-risk area to get acquainted with PvP and spend a few minutes having fun.
Hopping into “tournaments” (i.e. soloQ) is a large hurdle for someone just trying pvp. Getting put into a game where your team trash-talks you and players mercilessly slaughter you is very traumatizing for players who don’t even understand the maps, how to fight players, or even the most basics of conquest.
I’ve been top 200 since my first 10 games, so I doubt I did anyone a disservice.
Keep in mind you’re put into your first match-up with really low MMR. So in my first game, I was playing with terrible people to begin with. And if I had somehow managed to lose even when playing with and fighting against such people, my MMR would have quickly tanked, since MMR is much more volatile during the first 10 matches. The system, in other words, starts in a good place and self-corrects pretty quickly.
An unranked queue system would be fine, but the current hotjoin system is worse than no unranked option. It’s just horribly implemented and even confusing for new players.
That’s why this thread is asking to improve hotjoin. So that we have an unranked option that isn’t a cesspool of exploiting baddies who are only in it for easy wins and free rewards.
I don’t see why you’re opposed to that. Not every new player is going to be magically skilled at PVP like you apparently were. And I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but people tend to become a LOT meaner when their rank could go down because someone on their team doesn’t know what they are doing. It can quickly become a toxic environment for a new player.
Keep your dirty paws off my hotjoin.
Hotjoin was working fine before players got the ability to enter spectator mode and choose to join a specific side. Seems to me there are a few options that could fix it, if not at least make it much harder to exploit.
First being to simply remove the ability to choose your team. If it’s always random you can’t leave one team and join the other after an autobalance since you don’t control what team you end up on. Works even better if the game strongly favors putting you on the losing team when both sides have an equal number.
Another option is to make it so that the game adds people to a game in pairs initially, so if you wanted to join a game that was evenly balanced you’d only be added once there was a second person in queue to join the other team. We’d get slightly longer queue times, but it would still be massively superior to what is going on now.
Can’t really help it with leavers, but then that’s a problem in Solo Queue too. Just in the form of AFKers.
There is no improving the current hotjoin system. The only option is starting from scratch with an unranked queue option, which is what every other game has. To do that, hotjoin first has to go.
Hotjoin is fine, but in the current state it is being exploited. So all the new players end up in the losing outnumbered team. And get farmed till 500 – 0.
There should be a mode where you can just hop in and test your build, or practise. But not in its current broken state.
I’ve never done hotjoin. I think people should be forced to hop into the queue right from the start and work up from there.
Then you did a huge disservice to your teammates as you jumped into a competitive game mode with an untested build and no PVP experience in this game outside WvWvW.
There needs to be somewhere you can play unranked SPVP matches so new players can learn the game mode and older players can test new builds. When I make a new build and want to see how it performs I’m certainly not going to take it into a ranked match and risk bringing down my whole team.
hotjoin doesn’t give any useful training for tpvp anyway…arenas should be only for testing and that’s all…no rewards too ofc
how selfish can some people be? YOU dont play hotjoin, so just remove it?
i don’t even…do you even think what you’re typing?
how selfish can some people be? YOU dont play hotjoin, so just remove it?
i don’t even…do you even think what you’re typing?
then remove rewards at least…no reason to reward someone for just zerging around like pve… ranks too are already too easy to get to give rank points in hj. This would dramatically increase tpvp players too.
how selfish can some people be? YOU dont play hotjoin, so just remove it?
i don’t even…do you even think what you’re typing?then remove rewards at least…no reason to reward someone for just zerging around like pve… ranks too are already too easy to get to give rank points in hj. This would dramatically increase tpvp players too.
the rewards for hotjoin are already very low.
perhaps make it such that both the winning and losing give equal low rewards.
200 rank points and 10 silvers for a win / lose in hotjoin.
as always, asking for total removal of hotjoin is very selfish.
nowadays hotjoin’s problems is mainly caused by selfish people who did not play hotjoin at all, but kept on asking for hotjoin removal in the past.
how selfish can some people be? YOU dont play hotjoin, so just remove it?
i don’t even…do you even think what you’re typing?then remove rewards at least…no reason to reward someone for just zerging around like pve… ranks too are already too easy to get to give rank points in hj. This would dramatically increase tpvp players too.
the rewards for hotjoin are already very low.
perhaps make it such that both the winning and losing give equal low rewards.200 rank points and 10 silvers for a win / lose in hotjoin.
as always, asking for total removal of hotjoin is very selfish.
nowadays hotjoin’s problems is mainly caused by selfish people who did not play hotjoin at all, but kept on asking for hotjoin removal in the past.
It’s not selfish…you just can’t ask for rewards for actually doing NOTHING
how selfish can some people be? YOU dont play hotjoin, so just remove it?
i don’t even…do you even think what you’re typing?then remove rewards at least…no reason to reward someone for just zerging around like pve… ranks too are already too easy to get to give rank points in hj. This would dramatically increase tpvp players too.
the rewards for hotjoin are already very low.
perhaps make it such that both the winning and losing give equal low rewards.200 rank points and 10 silvers for a win / lose in hotjoin.
as always, asking for total removal of hotjoin is very selfish.
nowadays hotjoin’s problems is mainly caused by selfish people who did not play hotjoin at all, but kept on asking for hotjoin removal in the past.
It’s not selfish…you just can’t ask for rewards for actually doing NOTHING
asking for removal of hotjoin is selfish.
the players who are actually playing properly in hotjoin are not doing nothing.
please do not belittle the casual players of hotjoin.
Not to mention that if you remove Hotjoin, you’ll get all the newbies with their terrible PvE builds and no idea what Conquest is about, or worse, the “Don’t care. Just here for Dailies. I will triple cap a single point and then run into a wall for the remainder of the match.” players filling up solo Queue.
If you think matches are bad now, they’d be 10 times worse if Hotjoin (or its rewards) was removed.