I'm a bit disturbed over the rank changes
I’m a bit disturbed at how full of yourself you are , Ostrich Eggs….
And considering he’s one of the best gw2 pvp players in the world well…he can…
Just because you are higher than the cutoff doesn’t mean you need free stuff or everyone else shouldn’t get their rank. Anyone r70ish frankly plays too much. Scaling the rewards to give r80 to the few people who devote their waking hours to pvp is a waste of the development time for r80 and is simply setting a new unreachable goal for players.
Ranger | Elementalist
I’m a bit disturbed at how full of yourself you are , Ostrich Eggs….
And considering he’s one of the best gw2 pvp players in the world well…he can…
He is alright. Other players worried me more when I still did tpvp.
Ranger | Elementalist
Because he is recognized and admired by the community for his skills, and he is even mentioned by name in dev livestreams, what more “reward” does one need?
I think the rank they chose is fine, but I think people that are higher rank (60’s-70’s) should get more rewards than just chests. I have no clue what it could be, but it needs to be something meaningful.
As the forums are well aware, next patch is bringing free dragon to all! …
This is where I stopped reading and realized you were qq enough to create a new post. There are several threads already open and active for you to qq in. Please go there.
I dont think there’s any single thread made to point out that rank 70s are legitmately being punished because they aren’t being rewarded as much as a rank 55, regardless of how they’re already being screwed out of being ahead of the pack.
The differences in chests gained from 55-80 and 70-80 is an explicit mistake and something I think is thread worthy.
I have to agree here.
And I am not even close to being affected by the 55+ issue.
From my point of view, the chests should be awarded retroactive for all pvp levels, as anything but that punishes pvp players.
Anyone r70ish frankly plays too much.
Developers: OMG – he plays our game too much! We never intended an MMO to be played in this manner. Punish him!
bring out pitchforks (said no developer ever).
But seriously, the amount of hate towards dedicated players is amazing and smacks heavily of jealousy. The creators of GW2 should be honored that people are playing so much and they should show their appreciation.
That’s what you do for long time dedicated customers. Or didn’t you know?
Not being rewarded as much =/= punished.
such american
Who cares about ranks. Everything should be based on a (working) Leaderboards ranking or won Team Q / Solo q matches.
Giving the best rewards to highest ranked people would be like giving every nerd kiddy a Challenger title in LoL just because it played the game long enough.
Actually I am more shocked by the fact that winning an hotjoin match gives almost the same rewards as winning a team q match.
Who cares about ranks. Everything should be based on a (working) Leaderboards ranking or won Team Q / Solo q matches.
Giving the best rewards to highest ranked people would be like giving every nerd kiddy a Challenger title in LoL just because it played the game long enough.Actually I am more shocked by the fact that winning an hotjoin match gives almost the same rewards as winning a team q match.
I think you’re in the wrong genre. You might want to play a MOBA instead. This is an MMO. It rewards time spent. And if ranks don’t mean anything, why is anyone objecting to infinite ranks? They don’t mean anything right? Everyone’s happy!
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I think you’re in the wrong genre. You might want to play a MOBA instead. This is an MMO. It rewards time spent. And if ranks don’t mean anything, why is anyone objecting to infinite ranks? They don’t mean anything right? Everyone’s happy!
You have been saying this alot, maybe it’s because you like being able to make up for lack of skill with time investment?
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I think you’re in the wrong genre. You might want to play a MOBA instead. This is an MMO. It rewards time spent. And if ranks don’t mean anything, why is anyone objecting to infinite ranks? They don’t mean anything right? Everyone’s happy!
You have been saying this alot, maybe it’s because you like being able to make up for lack of skill with time investment?
Perhaps. Or maybe because it’s true. Who knows!
If they add ranks above 80, do not add any special finishers and make the rank grind ridiculous like 1M Rank points.
That way we wont see rank 561 or something ridiculous.
I’ll keep stating this so hopefully people can understand, adding more ranks is not fixing the problem where maximum rank is impossible to reach to casuals; if you make a rank 100, rank 100 is the new dragon and this whole patch is worthless.
Who cares about ranks. Everything should be based on a (working) Leaderboards ranking or won Team Q / Solo q matches.
Giving the best rewards to highest ranked people would be like giving every nerd kiddy a Challenger title in LoL just because it played the game long enough.Actually I am more shocked by the fact that winning an hotjoin match gives almost the same rewards as winning a team q match.
I think you’re in the wrong genre. You might want to play a MOBA instead. This is an MMO. It rewards time spent. And if ranks don’t mean anything, why is anyone objecting to infinite ranks? They don’t mean anything right? Everyone’s happy!
This game wants to be competitive and in a competitive game you dont get the “best” rewards just because spent the most time in the game. World of Warcraft is also a MMO and still you have to be one of the best to get the best rewards…you can spent as much time as you want in the arena – if you suck you will not progress. This is the ONLY you will create both a long-term motivation and an esports “hype”.
Before these changes everyone was complaining that rank means nothing and that there are better r15 than r50. Now they change it and everyone is complaining (especially the r70+ skyhammer farmers) that rank means everything and that “old veterans” should be rewards for their effort. Dont get me wrong, I am currently r61 and reached 55 even before the skyhammer kitten and that mainly just through tourneys but i didnt play because i wanted to reach a new rank level. My main motivations were to become better and especially to progress in the OLD paid system with gems. So if players should be rewarded than those who did succeed in these tourneys because everyone can become r50/60+ in hotjoin in a couple of weeks.
The problem is, OE – if they would give everyone every chest they deserve, it will BREAK the economy
But you are right, it’s punishing for high rank players which kept the game alive.
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wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
no
all is vain – #BelieveInKarl – #EvanForPresident
Who cares about ranks. Everything should be based on a (working) Leaderboards ranking or won Team Q / Solo q matches.
Giving the best rewards to highest ranked people would be like giving every nerd kiddy a Challenger title in LoL just because it played the game long enough.Actually I am more shocked by the fact that winning an hotjoin match gives almost the same rewards as winning a team q match.
I think you’re in the wrong genre. You might want to play a MOBA instead. This is an MMO. It rewards time spent. And if ranks don’t mean anything, why is anyone objecting to infinite ranks? They don’t mean anything right? Everyone’s happy!
This game wants to be competitive and in a competitive game you dont get the “best” rewards just because spent the most time in the game. World of Warcraft is also a MMO and still you have to be one of the best to get the best rewards…you can spent as much time as you want in the arena – if you suck you will not progress. This is the ONLY you will create both a long-term motivation and an esports “hype”.
Before these changes everyone was complaining that rank means nothing and that there are better r15 than r50. Now they change it and everyone is complaining (especially the r70+ skyhammer farmers) that rank means everything and that “old veterans” should be rewards for their effort. Dont get me wrong, I am currently r61 and reached 55 even before the skyhammer kitten and that mainly just through tourneys but i didnt play because i wanted to reach a new rank level. My main motivations were to become better and especially to progress in the OLD paid system with gems. So if players should be rewarded than those who did succeed in these tourneys because everyone can become r50/60+ in hotjoin in a couple of weeks.
Who’s asking for the “best” rewards? Not me. Is a title or a finisher, the “best” rewards? And for those who say that ranks are meaningless, if that’s so, then what’s the harm in letting them go on forever to 1000 and above? Ranks are anyway meaningless right? So let us have our “meaningless” ranks.
Everyone is happy! Right? Or am I missing something?
I thought on the ready up they said they were retroactive (made sense at least)
I thought on the ready up they said they were retroactive (made sense at least)
Dev forum post corrected that.
wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
No. I think you’re underestimating how long it took to reach rank 70. Since the patch that actually gave out chests hit, I have received ONE chest because it takes me 450,000 rank points to rank up. Personally, I don’t mind that there’s no clear recognition or goal once you hit rank 80. I know a LOT of people will be turned off by that, but that deserves another thread
Once more though, most people in this thread are continually mistaking what I’m trying to get across. While everyone knows and understands that high ranks are getting boned, the most symbolic of changes is the fact that rank 55s will receive more rank-up chests to rank 80 than rank 70s will. That is an undeniable fact and I cite a dev in my OP.
At the end of the day I don’t care too much about my lost finisher and 3 million rank points that will just go “poof”. I just want a little bit of respect from the devs. Rewarding rank 55s who get to 80 more than 70s who get to 80 is just the last straw.
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AGAIN since noone still answered my question:
Just put legendaries for 100 gems and cap max gold (Or achievement points) to 2k deleting everything above that cap (Many probably farmed gold too just like sh so where’s the point of having gold if someone farmed for it anyway…right?)…see if all those pve scrubs high rank-cheap cool emotes wannabes who’re saying “This is for game’s health, don’t care about those few getting chated” and stuff would agree with this too…cheap ranks for everyone and cheap legendaries too and most of your gold deleted cause who cares bout your time spent on it…sounds good to me
You know even new pve players are scared about high prices, everyone with tons of legendaries and so on…this would bring more players for sure making them confortable (Even if it WASN’T so confortable before, but who cares? This would be for game’s health…so enjoy the sacrifice)
Would you like it or countless pve heroes would istant-quit?
So? ANYONE? Come on don’t be shy…it’s an easy question for all you “free high rank wannabes”, you write so much on this forum with no clue…just answer this..
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wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
No. I think you’re underestimating how long it took to reach rank 70. Since the patch that actually gave out chests hit, I have received ONE chest because it takes me 450,000 rank points to rank up.
Once more though, most people in this thread are continually mistaking what I’m trying to get across. While everyone knows and understands that high ranks are getting boned, the most symbolic of changes is the fact that rank 55s will receive more rank-up chests to rank 80 than rank 70s will. That is an undeniable fact and I cite a dev in my OP.
At the end of the day I don’t care too much about my lost finisher and 3 million rank points that will just go “poof”. I just want a little bit of respect from the devs. Rewarding rank 55s who get to 80 more than 70s who get to 80 is just the last straw.
what i’m saying is all in all total old system or new system you get a grand total of 80-81 rank chests no matter what system you played under. so nobody gets more chests. the issue is what do you get for your hundreds or thousands of hours playing beyond what the “new” R80 is? Nothing really. That’s the issue, not the rank chests.
Isn’t there still some ridiculous PvP title that nobody has achieved yet? like win 10,000 matches or something? is that the only thing you have left to eventually set yourself apart?
wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
No. I think you’re underestimating how long it took to reach rank 70. Since the patch that actually gave out chests hit, I have received ONE chest because it takes me 450,000 rank points to rank up.
Once more though, most people in this thread are continually mistaking what I’m trying to get across. While everyone knows and understands that high ranks are getting boned, the most symbolic of changes is the fact that rank 55s will receive more rank-up chests to rank 80 than rank 70s will. That is an undeniable fact and I cite a dev in my OP.
At the end of the day I don’t care too much about my lost finisher and 3 million rank points that will just go “poof”. I just want a little bit of respect from the devs. Rewarding rank 55s who get to 80 more than 70s who get to 80 is just the last straw.
what i’m saying is all in all total old system or new system you get a grand total of 80-81 rank chests no matter what system you played under. so nobody gets more chests. the issue is what do you get for your hundreds or thousands of hours playing beyond what the “new” R80 is? Nothing really. That’s the issue, not the rank chests.
Isn’t there still some ridiculous PvP title that nobody has achieved yet? like win 10,000 matches or something? is that the only thing you have left to eventually set yourself apart?
But that’s not true. The chest patch wasn’t retroactive for ranks received. By being rank 70 once that patch hit I’m limited to 10 chests for life until rank 80. That was fine since people actually had to grind their kitten off for em and the rewards are kitten anyways.
What bugs me is the symbolism of getting the D while those who are getting free dragon get more random bullkitten than I do.
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Without statistics, you can’t say that “rank was farmed” to any significant level. I’m willing to bet that no skyhammer farmer is r70 right now. Not one.
It does not really matter how high they got, or how much they did it, or how many did it. Thanks to someone doing it, now you will never know if someone has a rank because they actually earned or because they farmed it. There’s simply no way to know it.
I got to almost rank 40 playing solo tournament for dailies, that’s just 3 matches a day, and not every day, and with a win ratio a bit lower than 50% (That’s what you get when you pick the underdog profession of the current meta, and do not have much luck with leavers).
Imagine someone who dedicated themselves just to farming rank countless hours while doing something else, like watching TV series, as rank farming requires just barely 2 fingers.
That’s what voids the merit of rank. That’s why they were going to remove it in the first place. It had become meaningless.
They heard us and decided to keep it, but rank will be now something to give a bit of initial progression to PvP and show a little veterancy and give a few rewards to players. Even if you farmed it, at least you had to visit one arena. So… it’s something .
There’s he stuff you got with glory, and the free transmutation charges based on rank you’ll get, so it’s not like you are not getting anything, unless you wasted the glory.
I got myself quite a lot of dyes from PvP, and several armor sets I like.
They could include bonus chests to compensate a bit, like they did with WXP chests, but they don’t really have to, if they do it, it’ll be a kindness, not a duty. This is one of those cases in which you can’t blame ANet or demand something from them, but blame few players and well… hold a grudge, I guess?
If I could ask for something, that’ll be for a timestamp in the achievements. So people can see when you got them. So those who got Legendary Champion sooner than others can show it off. Something that is not very intrussive, that appears when you select the character, like when you see the whole guild name instead just the tag. Like this:
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Without statistics, you can’t say that “rank was farmed” to any significant level. I’m willing to bet that no skyhammer farmer is r70 right now. Not one.
It does not really matter how high they got, or how much they did it, or how many did it. Thanks to someone doing it, now you will never know if someone has a rank because they actually earned or because they farmed it. There’s simply no way to know it.
I got to almost rank 40 playing solo tournament for dailies, that’s just 3 matches a day, and not every day, and with a win ratio a bit lower than 50% (That’s what you get when you pick the underdog profession of the current meta, and do not have much luck with leavers).
Imagine someone who dedicated themselves just to farming rank countless hours while doing something else, like watching TV series, as rank farming requires just barely 2 fingers.
That’s what voids the merit of rank. That’s why they were going to remove it in the first place. It had become meaningless.
They heard us and decided to keep it, but rank will be now something to give a bit of initial progression to PvP and show a little veterancy and give a few rewards to players. Even if you farmed it, at least you had to visit one arena. So… it’s something .
There’s he stuff you got with glory, and the free transmutation charges based on rank you’ll get, so it’s not like you are not getting anything, unless you wasted the glory.
I got myself quite a lot of dyes from PvP, and several armor sets I like.
They could include bonus chests to compensate a bit, like they did with WXP chests, but they don’t really have to, if they do it, it’ll be a kindness, not a duty. This is one of those cases in which you can’t blame ANet or demand something from them, but blame few players and well… hold a grudge, I guess?
If I could ask for something, that’ll be for a timestamp in the achievements. So people can see when you got them. So those who got Legendary Champion sooner than others can show it off. Something that is not very intrussive, that appears when you select the character, like when you see the whole guild name instead just the tag. Like this:
| Very Original Name | 80 |
| Coolest Guild Name Ever | |
| HP bar oes here | |
| Legendary Champion [2014-01-12] |
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wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
No. I think you’re underestimating how long it took to reach rank 70. Since the patch that actually gave out chests hit, I have received ONE chest because it takes me 450,000 rank points to rank up.
Once more though, most people in this thread are continually mistaking what I’m trying to get across. While everyone knows and understands that high ranks are getting boned, the most symbolic of changes is the fact that rank 55s will receive more rank-up chests to rank 80 than rank 70s will. That is an undeniable fact and I cite a dev in my OP.
At the end of the day I don’t care too much about my lost finisher and 3 million rank points that will just go “poof”. I just want a little bit of respect from the devs. Rewarding rank 55s who get to 80 more than 70s who get to 80 is just the last straw.
what i’m saying is all in all total old system or new system you get a grand total of 80-81 rank chests no matter what system you played under. so nobody gets more chests. the issue is what do you get for your hundreds or thousands of hours playing beyond what the “new” R80 is? Nothing really. That’s the issue, not the rank chests.
Isn’t there still some ridiculous PvP title that nobody has achieved yet? like win 10,000 matches or something? is that the only thing you have left to eventually set yourself apart?
But that’s not true. The chest patch wasn’t retroactive for ranks received. By being rank 70 once that patch hit I’m limited to 10 chests for life until rank 80. That was fine since people actually had to grind their kitten off for em and the rewards are kitten anyways.
What bugs me is the symbolism of getting the D while those who are getting free dragon get more random bullkitten than I do.
I understand your discontent with the system to a degree, but you personally, aren’t losing anything. You are gaining Dragon Rank on the 15th. ArenaNet has a history of this as well. This isn’t a precedent. I remember when they rebalanced the Gladiator ranks in GW1. Before they did that, gaining a rank was akin to wading upstream in a river of molasses with snowshoes on. That update removed the snowshoes. Anyone who has played a Guild Wars game could have told you this. Look what they did to the Survivor Title Track. Remember what happened with the Kurzick/Luxon Tracks? Want me to go on? We knew this would happen in December. They told us it would happen.
TL;DR Rank Bar in PvP=XP Bar in PvE. They lowered the amount of XP we need to get to /rank cap. They deserve our thanks.
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And a rank 1 can easily get more chests than any of us in a relatively short time, but nobody mentioned that
chests are probably just full of garbage anyway, it’s not like there’s gonna be precursors in there
wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
No. I think you’re underestimating how long it took to reach rank 70. Since the patch that actually gave out chests hit, I have received ONE chest because it takes me 450,000 rank points to rank up.
Once more though, most people in this thread are continually mistaking what I’m trying to get across. While everyone knows and understands that high ranks are getting boned, the most symbolic of changes is the fact that rank 55s will receive more rank-up chests to rank 80 than rank 70s will. That is an undeniable fact and I cite a dev in my OP.
At the end of the day I don’t care too much about my lost finisher and 3 million rank points that will just go “poof”. I just want a little bit of respect from the devs. Rewarding rank 55s who get to 80 more than 70s who get to 80 is just the last straw.
what i’m saying is all in all total old system or new system you get a grand total of 80-81 rank chests no matter what system you played under. so nobody gets more chests. the issue is what do you get for your hundreds or thousands of hours playing beyond what the “new” R80 is? Nothing really. That’s the issue, not the rank chests.
Isn’t there still some ridiculous PvP title that nobody has achieved yet? like win 10,000 matches or something? is that the only thing you have left to eventually set yourself apart?
But that’s not true. The chest patch wasn’t retroactive for ranks received. By being rank 70 once that patch hit I’m limited to 10 chests for life until rank 80. That was fine since people actually had to grind their kitten off for em and the rewards are kitten anyways.
What bugs me is the symbolism of getting the D while those who are getting free dragon get more random bullkitten than I do.
I understand your discontent with the system to a degree, but you personally, aren’t losing anything. You are gaining Dragon Rank on the 15th. ArenaNet has a history of this as well. This isn’t a precedent. I remember when they rebalanced the Gladiator ranks in GW1. Before they did that, gaining a rank was akin to wading upstream in a river of molasses with snowshoes on. That update removed the snowshoes. Anyone who has played a Guild Wars game could have told you this. Look what they did to the Survivor Title Track. Remember what happened with the Kurzick/Luxon Tracks? Want me to go on? We knew this would happen in December. They told us it would happen.
TL;DR Rank Bar in PvP=XP Bar in PvE. They lowered the amount of XP we need to get to /rank cap. They deserve our thanks.
Rank bars in PvP are not the same as XP in PvE. In PvE, there are umpteen ways to measure progression and time spent. Gold, legendaries, achievement points and what have you. In PvP, ranks are the only thing we have to show for our time. That makes it much more meaningful and valuable.
Add titles/minis or something for players to aim for after 80, and we can let go of ranks. But we need something. Anything.
wait a minute….. if you’re rank 70 that means you already got rank chests for all of those ranks. and you’ll get 11 more on patch day….. so total still 80 rank up chests. A new player going to R80 will also get the same # of chests at the end of the day. Nobody is getting more total chests than you, it’s just that you got yours in the past and they get theirs on patch day.
All in all the amount of rank chests are the same. The real issue here is that for all your playing hours beyond the (new) R80, there will be no recognition or reward.
It has nothing to do with how many chests you receive on patch day and everything to do with there being no clear recognition or goal to work towards past the new R80.
Amirite?
No. I think you’re underestimating how long it took to reach rank 70. Since the patch that actually gave out chests hit, I have received ONE chest because it takes me 450,000 rank points to rank up.
Once more though, most people in this thread are continually mistaking what I’m trying to get across. While everyone knows and understands that high ranks are getting boned, the most symbolic of changes is the fact that rank 55s will receive more rank-up chests to rank 80 than rank 70s will. That is an undeniable fact and I cite a dev in my OP.
At the end of the day I don’t care too much about my lost finisher and 3 million rank points that will just go “poof”. I just want a little bit of respect from the devs. Rewarding rank 55s who get to 80 more than 70s who get to 80 is just the last straw.
what i’m saying is all in all total old system or new system you get a grand total of 80-81 rank chests no matter what system you played under. so nobody gets more chests. the issue is what do you get for your hundreds or thousands of hours playing beyond what the “new” R80 is? Nothing really. That’s the issue, not the rank chests.
Isn’t there still some ridiculous PvP title that nobody has achieved yet? like win 10,000 matches or something? is that the only thing you have left to eventually set yourself apart?
But that’s not true. The chest patch wasn’t retroactive for ranks received. By being rank 70 once that patch hit I’m limited to 10 chests for life until rank 80. That was fine since people actually had to grind their kitten off for em and the rewards are kitten anyways.
What bugs me is the symbolism of getting the D while those who are getting free dragon get more random bullkitten than I do.
I understand your discontent with the system to a degree, but you personally, aren’t losing anything. You are gaining Dragon Rank on the 15th. ArenaNet has a history of this as well. This isn’t a precedent. I remember when they rebalanced the Gladiator ranks in GW1. Before they did that, gaining a rank was akin to wading upstream in a river of molasses with snowshoes on. That update removed the snowshoes. Anyone who has played a Guild Wars game could have told you this. Look what they did to the Survivor Title Track. Remember what happened with the Kurzick/Luxon Tracks? Want me to go on? We knew this would happen in December. They told us it would happen.
TL;DR Rank Bar in PvP=XP Bar in PvE. They lowered the amount of XP we need to get to /rank cap. They deserve our thanks.
They didn’t warn this would happen, they told us they would remove ranks in december. Then they said they would leave the system in place because people QQed. Last ready up they came out and announced THIS system which spawned all the QQ threads that you’re seeing.
And gaining dragon doesn’t mean kitten anymore. It honestly doesn’t. Dragon is practically free now (unless you’re starting PvP fresh, then it’s probably a massive grind to you). Again, that doesn’t matter to me.
And I AM losing something. I’m losing 3 million rank points that won’t be rewarded. Even still I’m fine with that because I think it’ll be better for the game as a whole.
ONCE MORE, I’m just pointing out the disparity in rewards vs time spent playing. You’re severely underestimating how much time a rank 70 spent in pvp vs a rank 55. The only reward difference between the two now is chests received. The rank 55s receive more because they didn’t play as much as the rank 70s despite the thousands of additional hours the 70s spent playing the game, unrewarded entirely for their efforts. It’s the simple combination of all the ways they’re shafting rank 70s that’s bugging me. Most of them aren’t explicit until you look at the chests, which is the straw that broke the camels back for me.
All I want is an apology, plz
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It would be nice if the leaderboard was the end-game goal, but that would require a better MMR which would require a larger playerbase, which they are trying to accomplish with this patch. I don’t see removing jewel flexibility and simplifying the UI as a big step towards getting more people in PvP. Making it a lot easier to level up characters would be the biggest step they can take and it sounds like they are going to do so, but to what extent?
The simplified UI is good thing dont get me wrong I have always hated having to equip all 6 runes separately… even in online build editors I can copy the rune to all slots lol…. but it never kept me from playing PvP.
What Anet should do is change the ridiculous builds new characters start with the first time they enter PvP and make them something useful and fairly common. I think it defaulted me to like…. zerker amulet and divinity runes on my ranger? lolwut that should not be a default.
and there is no good place for new players to learn pvp. hotjoin is a place to learn to hate pvp without ever understanding the game mode, and everything else is rated.
at least change the description of hot join instead of it being a button that says “play now” and makes new players think they are "play"ing actual PvP when they really are not at all.
Rank Bar in PvP=XP Bar in PvE. They lowered the amount of XP we need to get to /rank cap. They deserve our thanks.
I agree but, at the same time there are no more milestones past rank 80 that we know about. As a r47 pvp only player once I eventually hit rank 80 there will no longer be a milestone to endlessly work towards in increments of tens or hundreds of ranks. But in order for that to happen it needs to be retroactive for the soon to be ~r200’s players.
Here’s a different prospective….
I’m upset that now that the new changes are coming, I will never be able to get the rank 60 and 70 reward skins now that I’m being bumped to 80.
You did get more rewards for your time investment, Eggs…all that glory you could have spent on winter’s day boxes as well as unlocking rank 60 and 70 items. You already GOT your rewards, why do you want more?
You are recognized by the community for your skills and dedication. This whining about pixel rewards lowers you in my eyes. You were one of my heroes. I used to watch you stream for hours. Get over it, man.
Here’s a different prospective….
I’m upset that now that the new changes are coming, I will never be able to get the rank 60 and 70 reward skins now that I’m being bumped to 80.
You did get more rewards for your time investment, Eggs…all that glory you could have spent on winter’s day boxes as well as unlocking rank 60 and 70 items. You already GOT your rewards, why do you want more?
You are recognized by the community for your skills and dedication. This whining about pixel rewards lowers you in my eyes. You were one of my heroes. I used to watch you stream for hours. Get over it, man.
OMG he wants to be compensated for his time and hard work! This is not acceptable. What’s worse, he’s whining about being penalized for putting in thousands of hours more than others. Cry baby. What’s a few thousand hours after all huh?
He should play for nothing more than the sheer enjoyment of the game and adopt a zen like monk attitude towards life. Strive not for rewards, for that is an evil thought.
Hint: /s
As the forums are well aware, next patch is bringing free dragon to all! That’s all well and cool because the current rank/reward system is a pile of crap. As a player who’s rank 71 now, I’m alright with not being able to show off my finisher and all that jazz. I’m even alright with being rank 80 4x over.
The one thing that’s really been bugging me though is the fact that I am going to be punished for being higher ranked than 55 at this point. It simply boggles my mind.
I hate to be the one to play the victim card, but no matter how you cut it anyone who has spent a second in pvp over rank 55 before they added chests is getting screwed. Those who are super high rank, like myself, are just getting the D even harder.
I mean, I partook in the system you created more than most of your playerbase. In PvE and WvW that means something. But because I’ve PvPd I’m now going to receive less rewards than those who didn’t. Honestly it doesn’t matter too much. It’s more symbolic than anything…
Could I at least get an apology? “Sorry for kittening you for playing our game” would be fine :P
Edit: What I mean is that chests are not going to be retroactive. A player who is currently rank 55 will receive chests all the way up to dragon rank, 35 or 36 according to Evan. Because I am rank 71 I will receive 9 or 10 chests…
I think Rank has been silly for some time now but I would completely support calls to give everyone over 55 the same number of chests as those at 55 when the update hits, the old rank chests have been meaningless for a while now so its not like you were given much reward the first time round.
Demolishing Rank is something they have wanted to do for some time and will be the first step towards a better reward system for everyone. This is how they are planning to do it and I think it will be a rewarding update for PvPers.
*plays a sad violin solo for the torture of being forced to play a video game. So awful. Cuz life is just not as meaningful without pixels as a reward for time spent
Here’s a different prospective….
I’m upset that now that the new changes are coming, I will never be able to get the rank 60 and 70 reward skins now that I’m being bumped to 80.
You did get more rewards for your time investment, Eggs…all that glory you could have spent on winter’s day boxes as well as unlocking rank 60 and 70 items. You already GOT your rewards, why do you want more?
You are recognized by the community for your skills and dedication. This whining about pixel rewards lowers you in my eyes. You were one of my heroes. I used to watch you stream for hours. Get over it, man.
OMG he wants to be compensated for his time and hard work! This is not acceptable. What’s worse, he’s whining about being penalized for putting in thousands of hours more than others. Cry baby. What’s a few thousand hours after all huh?
He should play for nothing more than the sheer enjoyment of the game and adopt a zen like monk attitude towards life. Strive not for rewards, for that is an evil thought.
Hint: /s
You all did get compensated. You’ve been earning chests and glory (up until the last patch or so) that you could have used on lots of different things. The 10 or so of you who spent all that time playing pvp need to stop the qq, and stop spamming the forums with your qq threads. Go back to spending your time where you have been for the past year and a half, and play some pvp.
Here’s a different prospective….
I’m upset that now that the new changes are coming, I will never be able to get the rank 60 and 70 reward skins now that I’m being bumped to 80.
You did get more rewards for your time investment, Eggs…all that glory you could have spent on winter’s day boxes as well as unlocking rank 60 and 70 items. You already GOT your rewards, why do you want more?
You are recognized by the community for your skills and dedication. This whining about pixel rewards lowers you in my eyes. You were one of my heroes. I used to watch you stream for hours. Get over it, man.
OMG he wants to be compensated for his time and hard work! This is not acceptable. What’s worse, he’s whining about being penalized for putting in thousands of hours more than others. Cry baby. What’s a few thousand hours after all huh?
He should play for nothing more than the sheer enjoyment of the game and adopt a zen like monk attitude towards life. Strive not for rewards, for that is an evil thought.
Hint: /s
You all did get compensated. You’ve been earning chests and glory (up until the last patch or so) that you could have used on lots of different things. The 10 or so of you who spent all that time playing pvp need to stop the qq, and stop spamming the forums with your qq threads. Go back to spending your time where you have been for the past year and a half, and play some pvp.
Right. We got compensated with rank up chests. So true…
PvP needs milestones past rank 80. Any form of milestone past rank 80 needs to be retroactive. Tying the gifts needed to make legendary’s to pvp ranks is a good solution as it allows pvp players to make legendary’s without needing to pve and also creates that milestone achievement for a long term goal past rank 80.
it would be a cool gesture to count translated rank points beyond 80 as spendable points towards the new unlockable paths but aren’t most of those rewards similar to what used to be able to be bought with glory which the players like OE probably have all of them already?
Here’s a different prospective….
I’m upset that now that the new changes are coming, I will never be able to get the rank 60 and 70 reward skins now that I’m being bumped to 80.
You did get more rewards for your time investment, Eggs…all that glory you could have spent on winter’s day boxes as well as unlocking rank 60 and 70 items. You already GOT your rewards, why do you want more?
You are recognized by the community for your skills and dedication. This whining about pixel rewards lowers you in my eyes. You were one of my heroes. I used to watch you stream for hours. Get over it, man.
dem wintersday chests that came out 4 months ago sure did make this entire situation seem alright.
And you will be able to get the 60 and 70 reward skins because they’re like 2g max each on the trading post (except for a select few).
It’s called symbolism friend. I never played to get rewarded, but if they decide to reward the players who played less more so than veterans then I have every kitten right to QQ.
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Veteran players wont have any way of distinguishing themselves from other rank 55s now. Or showing off their accomplishments/skills. Veteran players never played for rewards, this isn’t PvE. We want something to distinguish our skills.
Touche
Squeaky wheel gets the grease
and you’re still one of my GW2 heroes, Ostrich Eggs.
peace
Veteran players wont have any way of distinguishing themselves from other rank 55s now. Or showing off their accomplishments/skills. Veteran players never played for rewards, this isn’t PvE. We want something to distinguish our skills.
Winning tournaments and owning people isnt a way to distinguish themselves? Rank was mudded by farmers anyway. Or did you lick the boots of every and any player higher rank than you? They will have the leaderboards for that.
Now, not getting the boxes does suck for the people that grinded the rank in a legitimate way
Veteran players wont have any way of distinguishing themselves from other rank 55s now. Or showing off their accomplishments/skills. Veteran players never played for rewards, this isn’t PvE. We want something to distinguish our skills.
Winning tournaments and owning people isnt a way to distinguish themselves? Rank was mudded by farmers anyway. Or did you lick the boots of every and any player higher rank than you? They will have the leaderboards for that.
Now, not getting the boxes does suck for the people that grinded the rank in a legitimate way
There has never been a legitimate way to show skill off since beta. The ONLY thing they had was showing off experience in the form of rank which to some degree was skill. Now that that’s gone veteran players have nothing (or less). And the leaderboards are a GREAT measure of ones skill right? When you can win 3 games and be #1.
So “everyone” who is rank 55+ right now is a bit disappointed about the “nerf” to rank points. What I do not understand is why no one has asked about a rollover for people with a rank higher then 55?
Q: Why is there no rollover rewards for people with ranks higher then 55?
Example: If you are rank 70 you will have acquired 3.421.500 rank points. Someone with rank 55 has acquired 1.171.500 rank points. After the patch rank 55 will become and infinite loop like in PvE lvl 80. If I am not mistaken the rank points required for the infinite 55 loop is 25.000.
Logically, people that are higher then rank 55 should get rewarded with every 25.000 rank points past the 1.171.500 rank points it requires to reach 55. Example:
Rank 70 = 3.421.500 rank points
Rank 55 = 1.171.500 rank points
Difference = 2.250.000
Rollover rewards = 2.250.000 / 25.000 = 90 chests.
Rank chests gained past 55 = 70 – 55 = 15 chests.
90 chests – 15 chests = 75 chests.
Maybe this has been said before, I don’t know. But this seems the most logical and fairest to everyone.
Again, veterans don’t care about rewards. We care about the title, the prestige that comes with our commitment to the game. If we wanted chests we’d go play PvE.
oh no everyone is going to be rank 70 and get hp+1
you people and your ranks are hillarious
Again, veterans don’t care about rewards. We care about the title, the prestige that comes with our commitment to the game. If we wanted chests we’d go play PvE.
Exactly. I care about prestige of being r70. Don´t kill us that.
As for the chests, it´s a second matter for us. Although, we should be rewarded even more because of logically being higher rank.
Enough said on this matter.
Again, veterans don’t care about rewards. We care about the title, the prestige that comes with our commitment to the game. If we wanted chests we’d go play PvE.
What? Do you know gold is going to be an universal trading currency right?
So chests = more gold for you to buy more skins w/e, the rank system was flawed and that is why it is being changed, they were even thinking of removing it for crying out loud!