VOIP would be the worst addition to the game. Anyone who actually wants to use voice chat already does.
“worst addition”? WTH. Its communication with an easy mute option. So many over dramatic newbs.
VOIP would be the worst addition to the game. Anyone who actually wants to use voice chat already does.
“worst addition”? WTH. Its communication with an easy mute option. So many over dramatic newbs.
The response to people saying players are too salty for voice chat is to insult them and call them names. Brilliantly argued for why we need voice chat in PvP. 10/10.
VOIP would be the worst addition to the game. Anyone who actually wants to use voice chat already does.
“worst addition”? WTH. Its communication with an easy mute option. So many over dramatic newbs.
Yeah, you pretty much confirmed what everyone has been saying that it would be an additional channel to rage/grief/harrass/insult
Also look at chat as is. There is the block option, the filter option, and the option to turn it off completely. But just because we have those options, it doesn’t give anyone the right to insult/harrass/rage/grief someone. And in fact with those options, such behavior is still punished. So the argument that any rage/harrassment/insults/grief can be avoided by mute or blocking doesn’t really work.
VOIP would be the worst addition to the game. Anyone who actually wants to use voice chat already does.
“worst addition”? WTH. Its communication with an easy mute option. So many over dramatic newbs.
Yeah, you pretty much confirmed what everyone has been saying that it would be an additional channel to rage/grief/harrass/insult
Or I demonstrated those who cannot take criticism. I’m definitely feeling for anet now. It’s like choosing a parenting model. Either isolate and put everyone in a safe bubble and coddle them or let them grow some thick skin.
“It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.”
-Frederick Douglass
People focus on the negatives too much, what about the positives in finding new friends or winning more matches?
Sometimes I wonder if people go through real life without talking to anybody because they’re scared of too many things. I get some people are shy, but you eventually need to be able to talk to people in the world. There will always be annoying and rude people, but there will always be nice and helpful people too. You just take the good with the bad.
People focus on the negatives too much, what about the positives in finding new friends or winning more matches?
Sometimes I wonder if people go through real life without talking to anybody because they’re scared of too many things. I get some people are shy, but you eventually need to be able to talk to people in the world. There will always be annoying and rude people, but there will always be nice and helpful people too. You just take the good with the bad.
kitten those Ipads and smartphones right? When I was but a wee lad I had dirt to keep me company. Dirt and 56k. The golden days.
There’s nothing wrong with voip. There’s also nothing wrong with adding more gamemodes, an in-game tournament feature or any other lucritive content that’s been brought up in the past. I’m sure Anet has a huge list of items they’re wanting to tackle 1 at a time… surley.
VOIP would be the worst addition to the game. Anyone who actually wants to use voice chat already does.
“worst addition”? WTH. Its communication with an easy mute option. So many over dramatic newbs.
Yeah, you pretty much confirmed what everyone has been saying that it would be an additional channel to rage/grief/harrass/insult
Or I demonstrated those who cannot take criticism. I’m definitely feeling for anet now. It’s like choosing a parenting model. Either isolate and put everyone in a safe bubble and coddle them or let them grow some thick skin.
“It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.”
-Frederick Douglass
So insulting someone who doesn’t share your opinon is now critisism?
But it’s ok to insult and harass people because they need a thicker skin?
By that logic Anet shouldn’t respond to chat harassment, offensive talk, direct insults, etc, because thats coddling their players, and not letting them grow thick skin.
But it’s ok to introduce another method for people to insult, offend, and harass people because people are weak, and need to grow up.
“But thats what the mute buttons for. Man up and deal with it, or mute it.”
People focus on the negatives too much, what about the positives in finding new friends or winning more matches?
Sometimes I wonder if people go through real life without talking to anybody because they’re scared of too many things. I get some people are shy, but you eventually need to be able to talk to people in the world. There will always be annoying and rude people, but there will always be nice and helpful people too. You just take the good with the bad.
There is that too of course. However, the negatives far outweigh the positives. I can win matches, and make friends without in-game VOIP.
As far as not talking to anyone in RL. I don’t talk to many. I purposly avoid people, groups specifically. I have a touch of PTSD and some anxiety. Put me in a group of more than 5 people, and I’m looking for an escape and what would be the best way to take out that dude by the door.
So I should just “deal with it” and put myself in situations where I could have a panic attack, nervous breakdown, or hurt someone? Because there might be some “good” people in the group? Yeah don’t think so.
People focus on the negatives too much, what about the positives in finding new friends or winning more matches?
Sometimes I wonder if people go through real life without talking to anybody because they’re scared of too many things. I get some people are shy, but you eventually need to be able to talk to people in the world. There will always be annoying and rude people, but there will always be nice and helpful people too. You just take the good with the bad.
There is that too of course. However, the negatives far outweigh the positives. I can win matches, and make friends without in-game VOIP.
As far as not talking to anyone in RL. I don’t talk to many. I purposly avoid people, groups specifically. I have a touch of PTSD and some anxiety. Put me in a group of more than 5 people, and I’m looking for an escape and what would be the best way to take out that dude by the door.
So I should just “deal with it” and put myself in situations where I could have a panic attack, nervous breakdown, or hurt someone? Because there might be some “good” people in the group? Yeah don’t think so.
You should probably get some help if you’re that bad. I used to be pretty shy also, but I got over it. I wouldn’t even enter PvP or WvW, but now I’m rank 80 and over rank 2400 in WvW and was in a great GvG guild.
I don’t think using extreme cases from either side is very useful, like saying it’d make PvP perfect or that every shy person in the world will have a heart attack. It’s just a suggestion, people can like it or not, they can give reasons for it, but if everyone tries insulting the other side about it because of their wants and needs that’s just useless. For instance saying not everyone is comfortable is fine, but to keep elaborating and going on about how people like you should suffer and have a heart attack is a little extreme. But some advocates of VOIP do the same thing telling people to suck it up and they’ll be fine and it’ll make PvP amazing, so you just have to weigh the average of both sides.
People focus on the negatives too much, what about the positives in finding new friends or winning more matches?
Sometimes I wonder if people go through real life without talking to anybody because they’re scared of too many things. I get some people are shy, but you eventually need to be able to talk to people in the world. There will always be annoying and rude people, but there will always be nice and helpful people too. You just take the good with the bad.
There is that too of course. However, the negatives far outweigh the positives. I can win matches, and make friends without in-game VOIP.
As far as not talking to anyone in RL. I don’t talk to many. I purposly avoid people, groups specifically. I have a touch of PTSD and some anxiety. Put me in a group of more than 5 people, and I’m looking for an escape and what would be the best way to take out that dude by the door.
So I should just “deal with it” and put myself in situations where I could have a panic attack, nervous breakdown, or hurt someone? Because there might be some “good” people in the group? Yeah don’t think so.You should probably get some help if you’re that bad. I used to be pretty shy also, but I got over it. I wouldn’t even enter PvP or WvW, but now I’m rank 80 and over rank 2400 in WvW and was in a great GvG guild.
I don’t think using extreme cases from either side is very useful, like saying it’d make PvP perfect or that every shy person in the world will have a heart attack. It’s just a suggestion, people can like it or not, they can give reasons for it, but if everyone tries insulting the other side about it because of their wants and needs that’s just useless. For instance saying not everyone is comfortable is fine, but to keep elaborating and going on about how people like you should suffer and have a heart attack is a little extreme. But some advocates of VOIP do the same thing telling people to suck it up and they’ll be fine and it’ll make PvP amazing, so you just have to weigh the average of both sides.
I don’t have a problem with PvP or WvW. Thats not the point. The point is belittling people who have such problems, and they are REAL problems, is not the right way to go about it. Your basically saying (not you specifically…) “I don’t care about your or your issues because I think being able to communicate with my team is more important than you.” That alone is not in the spirit of teamwork, or an inclusive community.
“Just deal with it” is one of the worst things you can tell someone with similiar issues. Even if it’s not to the extreme that I have. If someone is uncomfortable in any particular situation, why should they be forced to endure it?
As far as in-game comms is concerned. Many people get quite upset over people sending whispers and talking trash in chat. Which is part of the reason it’s a bannable offense. With voice comms, it makes it much much easier to do that. So those who don’t want/can’t deal with such things are told to either “suck it up and deal with it” or to mute it. Why should I have to alter my play, or way of doing things because some self important nimrod likes to yell at people? Or someone thinks they know the best way to do something, and if you do anything else you’re a noob and suck.
Sarcasm. This right here is another reason VOIP would be great. You can’t always tell in chat if someone is giving an honest criticism or being a jerk. And most of the time advice is taken as being mean. So thus it can be even harder without voice chat to give constructive feedback sometimes.
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EXACTLY.
I dont want to have to set up and auth every pug I play with in PVP to my Mumble. Also, if another player is using TS and I use Mumble, then there will be an argument in which VOIP to use.
If its implemented in-game for party use (during dungeons) and team use (during pvp) then it will all be for the better. Mute buttons on each toon to avoid hearing BS or if you just plain don’t wanna use it.
I’ve seen this implemented even in mobile games (Order and Chaos) and it helped a lot in pug dungeon runs.
No one is “forcing” you to use it, like you said… You can turn it off, like you said you have in other games. Just because YOU don’t want to use it, it doesn’t mean other people will not. You can also individually mute a single player with the click of your mouse. Then the kitten is not in your ear and you can hear the useful people. However you want to do it. It is also not that much effort to set up for a game. Half of the stuff is already in place.
How can you do the exact same thing with set tools. Are you going to ping your TS info to everyone pug on your team? Then hope they get connected and into the channel in time, before delaying the game? It will HELP the game. It has been a huge step forward for every single game that has ever implemented it.
People constantly complain that they only want to Solo Q and shouldn’t have to team up. They then complain because the enemy team is on comms and they are not. This would solve a massive issue and make people very happy. If you choose to turn it off, so be it; that is your choice.
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