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Posted by: Mooncow.6847

Mooncow.6847

I really think this patch was some kind of Mesmer condi nerf away from being an excellent patch. The buff to flow of time seems huge, 33% increase to alacrity up time (more than that actually because of the nature of alacrity) seems a bit absurd to a class that was already probably the most important class on a team.
Other than that SO FAR I enjoy this patch the point where I like playing this game again and the changes to wvw are great

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Posted by: Cyanon.1928

Cyanon.1928

Agree with you.

Mesmer needed a nerf. Expect 2 mesmers in every single S3 ESL match.

Portal Play is a huge team carrier.

If you wanna keep portals, at least nerf the Moa duration by 50%. That way, they can still have 2 Moas but they can’t waste time writing /say while their clones wreck you in Moa.

Example given by Lord Helseth at minute 30:50 Moa to Evan Lesh (ANET Gameplay Programmer).

This is Him, killing 3 players by himself using his little Mesmer last night after patch.
https://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/61631445

00:22:30 – Game starts
00:30:50 – Must-watch-moment where Evan get’s moa’d…

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Agree with you.

Mesmer needed a nerf. Expect 2 mesmers in every single S3 ESL match.

Portal Play is a huge team carrier.

If you wanna keep portals, at least nerf the Moa duration by 50%. That way, they can still have 2 Moas but they can’t waste time writing /say while their clones wreck you in Moa.

Example given by Lord Helseth at minute 30:50 Moa to Evan Lesh (ANET Gameplay Programmer).

This is Him, killing 3 players by himself using his little Mesmer last night after patch.
https://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/61631445

00:22:30 – Game starts
00:30:50 – Must-watch-moment where Evan get’s moa’d…

I don’t think Moa needs nerf, I think continuum split does.

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Posted by: XxsdgxX.8109

XxsdgxX.8109

Yeah, the patch was actually nice overall but either way I did suspect that the mesmer changes were weird.

Stella Truth Seeker

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

Condi shatter mesmer definitely needed a nerf, but got a buff instead – really don’t know why. It simply needs an ICD of 10 seconds on both Illu Reversion and Chronophantasma.

Other than that, the patch was great: Still not sure if Ele is usable without clerics (which is important to me, cuz I don’t wanna necessarily keep playing clerics all the time), but it looks more promising than last patch.

The top-3 builds are maybe still a bit too strong (power-rev, clerics ele and condi-mesmer) but the rest got much more closer together. Srsly: If they tone down the top-3 builds a bit, it might be the closest balance between classes yet.

First glance opinion of course.

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Posted by: phokus.8934

phokus.8934

IR already got nerfed by needing two illusions out. ICD just doesn’t make sense nor any semblance of nerfing it further.

Flow of time was a decent change but definitely not a game changer. Seeing as how alacrity was nerfed 50% in reduction, this just seems like a modification to them overturning/nerfing alacrity recharge reduction from 66-33%.

I post from a phone so please excuse any references to ducks or any other auto corrections.

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Posted by: xeonage.1253

xeonage.1253

So they buff mes to make ppls hate this kittening no brain mes. Then they will have a reason to nerf it.

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Posted by: xeonage.1253

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Posted by: Kicker.8203

Kicker.8203

Agree, mesmer needs the change the most. Then revenant and ele.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

It’s one day after a patch that made drastic changes to every class. Can we not at least wait for the meta to settle before we go declaring XYZ to be broken?

Sanity is for the weak minded.
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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

The top-3 builds are maybe still a bit too strong (power-rev, clerics ele and condi-mesmer) but the rest got much more closer together. Srsly: If they tone down the top-3 builds a bit, it might be the closest balance between classes yet.

First glance opinion of course.

but isnt this the story of gw2 pvp? “if they just…”

like if they just removed celestial instead of forcing us to play cele builds for 2 years. if they just…

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Posted by: flog.3485

flog.3485

If Mesmer is such an OP class, why not make it a priority target in pvp ? It seems like it would be easier to target now that necros and engineers have been nerfed, no?

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Posted by: Zelda.6325

Zelda.6325

The top-3 builds are maybe still a bit too strong (power-rev, clerics ele and condi-mesmer) but the rest got much more closer together. Srsly: If they tone down the top-3 builds a bit, it might be the closest balance between classes yet.

First glance opinion of course.

but isnt this the story of gw2 pvp? “if they just…”

like if they just removed celestial instead of forcing us to play cele builds for 2 years. if they just…

There have been times with better balance than during other times. It will never be perfect, but the meta we have at the moment is really far from being perfect or even “good”.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

The top-3 builds are maybe still a bit too strong (power-rev, clerics ele and condi-mesmer) but the rest got much more closer together. Srsly: If they tone down the top-3 builds a bit, it might be the closest balance between classes yet.

First glance opinion of course.

but isnt this the story of gw2 pvp? “if they just…”

like if they just removed celestial instead of forcing us to play cele builds for 2 years. if they just…

There have been times with better balance than during other times. It will never be perfect, but the meta we have at the moment is really far from being perfect or even “good”.

yes but my point is they always miss the most obvious solution. even if it slaps them across the face and we cry about it on the forums for a year.

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Posted by: Keadron.9570

Keadron.9570

The top-3 builds are maybe still a bit too strong (power-rev, clerics ele and condi-mesmer) but the rest got much more closer together. Srsly: If they tone down the top-3 builds a bit, it might be the closest balance between classes yet.

First glance opinion of course.

but isnt this the story of gw2 pvp? “if they just…”

like if they just removed celestial instead of forcing us to play cele builds for 2 years. if they just…

There have been times with better balance than during other times. It will never be perfect, but the meta we have at the moment is really far from being perfect or even “good”.

yes but my point is they always miss the most obvious solution. even if it slaps them across the face and we cry about it on the forums for a year.

Maybe but how many damage builds have you seen for ele since it was taken away?