Guild Wars 2

Why is that? Is it a “git Gud” issue or do they just suck. Or is it they’re actually good but it’s just that the other team is just better. For example the Necro on my team just died instantly while their Necro lives forever. I tell them to always focus the necro yet the necro is so good he lives where as my necro dies instantaneously. Why is it like this?

If somebody runs in first and is first to die, they are doing the wrong thing. As soon as someone is being focused, they need to get out of that situation. Be patient at mid, there is no need to go and sit on a neutral point to die. If i get focused hard at mid, i get back behind my team, around walls and such (Los them) until i know i am good to go again. You can get kills this way as well, they follow you to there death. GL with your team.

Because your enemy team have better pressure, focus on your team especially on your necro and they are better at helping to keep their necro alive they are doing it good thats where the power of necro comes in. If your team don’t try to keep your necro alive and support hi then its the team to blame. A lot of peoples don’t know how to play in team with a necro to take advantage and this is a big mistake. Then players on losing team start to blame that poor necro how he dies close to instantly in 1v3 1v4 focus. A necro have low survivability in a bad team. I know because i main a necro.

Dman.5897:

If somebody runs in first and is first to die, they are doing the wrong thing. As soon as someone is being focused, they need to get out of that situation. Be patient at mid, there is no need to go and sit on a neutral point to die. If i get focused hard at mid, i get back behind my team, around walls and such (Los them) until i know i am good to go again. You can get kills this way as well, they follow you to there death. GL with your team.

Yeah just watched some Twitch streams and idk why not a lot of people just leave mid when it’s obvious the cap is gone. Like as soon as someone died, the rest of the team at mid dispersed instead staying mid to just die. Still I’m in Ruby T1 and when I solo Q it’s no different. Team loses 4v4 at start and everything just falls apart from there. Will make sure to pass along this info on my next matches. Thanks m8.

Shovel Face.4512:

Dman.5897:

If somebody runs in first and is first to die, they are doing the wrong thing. As soon as someone is being focused, they need to get out of that situation. Be patient at mid, there is no need to go and sit on a neutral point to die. If i get focused hard at mid, i get back behind my team, around walls and such (Los them) until i know i am good to go again. You can get kills this way as well, they follow you to there death. GL with your team.

Yeah just watched some Twitch streams and idk why not a lot of people just leave mid when it’s obvious the cap is gone. Like as soon as someone died, the rest of the team at mid dispersed instead staying mid to just die. Still I’m in Ruby T1 and when I solo Q it’s no different. Team loses 4v4 at start and everything just falls apart from there. Will make sure to pass along this info on my next matches. Thanks m8.

what if u proposed them to open with

3 far
2 home

on some map it works

the 4 foes reach mid, empty, suddenly realize their home defender died in seconds.

your team got 2 cap at start, and they are down by 1 member, and they must decide to zerg or split.

Thats the thing with pvp, theres so many variables that its hard to say who’s at fault in those fights. While you are correct that a necro is a good target in mid, theres also something like going too agressive. If he stays really far back ,even uses some of the walls behind the point to kite (like on foefire), then those who stay on the point cant hit him, those with no mobility can’t reach him. Right there it would be a lot better to simply swap targets and try to get someone else. Your own necro seems to die fast? Try helping him out, try to go for the guy that overextends on your necro. As long as your team focusses the same guy, he should be going down eventually.

Theres also team composition that is an important factor in winning or losing your fights. If i see that the enemies have 2 elementalists, and we have none , then i know that it’ll be hard to win mid if they are both there. I’d like to mention also that i play dragonhunter, and ele is such a stupid hardcounter to me that makes this even more a problem than for other classes. So what do i do in these games? i dont give up no, i look at where they are going! If i see 2x ele mid, i will simply push far, take my 1v1 which i usually win (currently diamond) and carry the game that way. Your team might still lose mid, but then atleast you will have close+far, and then it becomes a game of rotations. They will probably overrotate to you(far), if you can keep them busy for a little bit, then maybe right after that your team can group up to mid again, you can jump in and BAM you got middle. 2base+time to hold it.
Other scenario being that you go mid and fail again, no worries, if you can spot the team falling apart, try to sneak ur way to far once again and try to hang in there! You might only need to cap a 2-base once to hold it for the most part of the game.

And remember, you may not win all games, but you sure as hell can turn a few losses into wins by being just that tiny bit more significant, and sometimes your team will follow through and show they are not completely kittened.

Dril.2495:

Thats the thing with pvp, theres so many variables that its hard to say who’s at fault in those fights. While you are correct that a necro is a good target in mid, theres also something like going too agressive. If he stays really far back ,even uses some of the walls behind the point to kite (like on foefire), then those who stay on the point cant hit him, those with no mobility can’t reach him. Right there it would be a lot better to simply swap targets and try to get someone else. Your own necro seems to die fast? Try helping him out, try to go for the guy that overextends on your necro. As long as your team focusses the same guy, he should be going down eventually.

Theres also team composition that is an important factor in winning or losing your fights. If i see that the enemies have 2 elementalists, and we have none , then i know that it’ll be hard to win mid if they are both there. I’d like to mention also that i play dragonhunter, and ele is such a stupid hardcounter to me that makes this even more a problem than for other classes. So what do i do in these games? i dont give up no, i look at where they are going! If i see 2x ele mid, i will simply push far, take my 1v1 which i usually win (currently diamond) and carry the game that way. Your team might still lose mid, but then atleast you will have close+far, and then it becomes a game of rotations. They will probably overrotate to you(far), if you can keep them busy for a little bit, then maybe right after that your team can group up to mid again, you can jump in and BAM you got middle. 2base+time to hold it.
Other scenario being that you go mid and fail again, no worries, if you can spot the team falling apart, try to sneak ur way to far once again and try to hang in there! You might only need to cap a 2-base once to hold it for the most part of the game.

And remember, you may not win all games, but you sure as hell can turn a few losses into wins by being just that tiny bit more significant, and sometimes your team will follow through and show they are not completely kittened.

Yeah but I mostly play Thief(Yes it’s trash) and DH. Just watched some of Caed’s (the thief) stream and his team always wins the 4v4 initial fight (in solo Q) and this is where the thief truly shines. In my case, my team (solo Q) will majority of the time lose that initial mid fight with all 4 dying. And this is where thief does not shine. So it’s clear to me that most of the time my teammates arnt the best but what you said makes a lot of sense and I will be sure to pass it along in future matches