Guild Wars 2

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

I don’t think you can use that as a proof. I mean if I die 2 times in a row from condition bombs I have lost 30-40k damage, but if I fight a power build and manage to heal myself over and over again I don’t die but the damage I have received is way over 30-40k damage. Understand what I mean? It could may as well prove the contrary as if you survive longer by getting hit by pure power but die faster with condition damage.

Of course it is not a proof, but power offers still much better burst and gives you less time for healing. Which means, you usually should need less powerdmg to kill somebody than condi dmg. Of course, if you invest heavily into defense against power and then facetank everything, condis will kill you more likely than power. Because there is less passive defense against condis. Those passive defenses are one reason, why power dmg might seem weaker sometimes. Doesn’t mean, we need even more of this passive crap.

Most condi builds are slow, lack ranged pressure and are weak vs cc. They are no bunkers and actually quite vulnerable to power burst. Yet most people refuse to adapt and abuse those weaknesses. They prefer to sit in the condi build’s faces, tank everything and then cry about dieing – that’s my observations.

Condi builds are pretty nuts right now and particularly hard to counter.

alain.1659:

I do not care about condi builds. I can run or deal with them. But be honest, they are easy to play, harder to fail. Condi mesmer? I am playing a core condi mesmer and it is easy. Really easy. I love it, and been playing condi mesmer even before all this condi changes (it was crappy though )

But condi does not need expertise. Condi does not need precision. They are only nice additions. Dire condi mesmer can hurt many professions without ease. I am all for condition builds but please try to be objective and honest.

That is a problem with condi mesmer, not condi in general.

Supreme.3164:

That’s it!….The whole kittening problem is that: unblockable necro marks spamming on the point, it’s the same with wvw .. you see marks everywhere, the backline of german servers is entirely made up of necros…

Correct me if I’m wrong… but I really, REALLY doubt condi builds are used in zerg fights. I can’t remember the last time I was hit with a condi build in a zerg fight…. You might be thinking of well bombers which are – yes you guessed it – power Necros with wells.

As for the other comments about Krait runes… come on! Nightmare runes, krait runes – you can’t have them all. If the condi user uses Krait, he won’t have nightmare. If he uses nightmare, he won’t have krait. Also, the 6th bonus of Krait runes won’t kill you. It’s a single bleed, torment and poison, and if the enemy was going to use their Elite on you, you are probably already in trouble despite the runes. And as it was already mentioned, if we compared that to Strength Runes. strength runes give you 5% more damage always , as well as higher might stacking, as opposed to 3 silly condis, no matter if they’re bugged so they hit through dodge. Not to mention the % damage bonuses are thrown around like crazy – examples: Herald traitline, Invocation traitline, Devastation traitline (not to mention the % damage boosts with thief or power warrior). Then we have Ferocity which makes the damage bonus even higher. Your power damage can skyrocket with all these % damage boosts, which is made even stronger by might and vuln. Condi dmg just gets might and vuln – yay.

Also, as was also said before… taking Krait Runes with Wanderer (which is a common condi amulet since merc is gone, or so I think)… your bleeds are way too long. It’s strong against enemies with super low cleanse like power rev, but against everything else, in my opinion, it’s a a risk because the longer bleeds you’d get from taking Krait are cleansed anyway.

Almost 8/10 condi players per match that I play now. The 2 people who aren’t condi are me and the person I’m queueing with.