Guild Wars 2

Darnis.4056:

Disgustingly OP burst in what looks like 16k in 0.1 seconds , is this a legit build ? I’ve seen this twice now… Makes warrior/thief burst look like it takes skill.

There are things called : dodge, timing and strategy, psl use them

I made a post about this build last week which got moved to the engineer forum (I really do not appreciate that). Anyway, I don’t know if it is OP, certainly a surprise though. Also, it has good ranged power and a pull/kd so you are not just getting netted.

One thing though-some classes have builds with similar survivability, but no chance for such burst. I think that is an issue. My power ranger for example, has similar survivability through evasion, but cannot in any way pull an instant 16K out of its kitten. In spvp, as has been noted many times, the burst really is important. Oh yes, also note that this build can bomb the treb from a wall and destroy it quite quickly from a safe place. If you play against someone who is good at this build, prepare to die.

This was a counter-qq post from like 3 weeks ago.. not sure why someone decided to necro it with “Close this thread”

The build definitely caught me off guard, and you will see players like Voz capitalizing on it.

Here’s a more current discussion in the engineer forums if anyone is interested.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Is-100nades-TOO-powerful-Discuss

Heheh, it’s a pretty good build, probably the best tournament build engineers have. I don’t use it because I don’t really like burst playstyle. I wouldn’t really mind if it got nerfed—it was kind of fun to be the only engineer I’d see most nights.

As far as effectiveness/OPness, it’s probably right between a hundred blades warrior and a backstab thief. So if you don’t like those builds, you probably won’t like 100nades either.

Yasha.5963:

I made a post about this build last week which got moved to the engineer forum (I really do not appreciate that). Anyway, I don’t know if it is OP, certainly a surprise though. Also, it has good ranged power and a pull/kd so you are not just getting netted.

One thing though-some classes have builds with similar survivability, but no chance for such burst. I think that is an issue. My power ranger for example, has similar survivability through evasion, but cannot in any way pull an instant 16K out of its kitten. In spvp, as has been noted many times, the burst really is important. Oh yes, also note that this build can bomb the treb from a wall and destroy it quite quickly from a safe place. If you play against someone who is good at this build, prepare to die.

That’s kinda funny, my condi mesmer has less survivability than my necro and less reliable access to poison as well… On a funnier note I was crit for 9k by an eagle today by a power ranger.

Back on topic, the build is kittenty. Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s quite literally worse than eating a hundred blades. You have to be either metrically kitten or have all of your kitten on cooldown. Furthermore it has less sustained damage and no access to grenades whatsoever before the burst hits making it even more predictable and worthless. If you see a hundred nades engi all he is going to do is try to hundred nades you and spam hip shot. Even when the burst hits it won’t bring many targets down on its own (I’ve been hit by five gauge with 1980 armor, it brought me down to 1/3 HP).

TL;DR just learn to kittening play. You should not be getting hit, it’s too kitten predictable. It’s a bad build and you may as well bring a thief or a warrior cuz they’ll do it better.

God forbid anyone learns what an engineer does like they know how to dodge bulls rush and basilisk venom.

Can someone explain how you play this build? ive seen the traits and skills but I have no idea how to use it properly to get the damage people are talking about here

Well you put 30 power (explosives),20 crit(firearms) and 10 crit damage (tools).
At power take everything grenade related.
At crit you can take like the 5 invul stacks on immobile.
The most importent is at tool you should take the " Equipping a kit creates an attck or spell" .

What you basiclly do is walk at someone medium range, Net them with the rifle, get up close to them (melle range). Equip the grenade kit (sends of a grenade barrage) and use grenade barrage. That does a nice bit of damage.

I agree this build looks like something that wasn’t planned. But you must be in someone’s face to use it and the build it self is glass cannon.

After you miss or something you basiclly have to wait 30 sec for the next grenade barrage.
Maybe it should change, but all in all it’s a very 1 hit wonder kinda build and every other class can pull something similar when going full minded damage wise.

I’ll take my SD rifle engi build over this crap any day of the week.

Ostricheggs.3742:

Yasha.5963:

I made a post about this build last week which got moved to the engineer forum (I really do not appreciate that). Anyway, I don’t know if it is OP, certainly a surprise though. Also, it has good ranged power and a pull/kd so you are not just getting netted.

One thing though-some classes have builds with similar survivability, but no chance for such burst. I think that is an issue. My power ranger for example, has similar survivability through evasion, but cannot in any way pull an instant 16K out of its kitten. In spvp, as has been noted many times, the burst really is important. Oh yes, also note that this build can bomb the treb from a wall and destroy it quite quickly from a safe place. If you play against someone who is good at this build, prepare to die.

That’s kinda funny, my condi mesmer has less survivability than my necro and less reliable access to poison as well… On a funnier note I was crit for 9k by an eagle today by a power ranger.

Back on topic, the build is kittenty. Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s quite literally worse than eating a hundred blades. You have to be either metrically kitten or have all of your kitten on cooldown. Furthermore it has less sustained damage and no access to grenades whatsoever before the burst hits making it even more predictable and worthless. If you see a hundred nades engi all he is going to do is try to hundred nades you and spam hip shot. Even when the burst hits it won’t bring many targets down on its own (I’ve been hit by five gauge with 1980 armor, it brought me down to 1/3 HP).

TL;DR just learn to kittening play. You should not be getting hit, it’s too kitten predictable. It’s a bad build and you may as well bring a thief or a warrior cuz they’ll do it better.

God forbid anyone learns what an engineer does like they know how to dodge bulls rush and basilisk venom.

Not sure what you are huffing and puffing about. My original thread merely inquired about the build, because I was surprised to be blown up with no thief, warrior or mesmer around. I never said the build was OP, although I believe it is very strong in the right hands.

BTW I’ve never seen a bird do 9K damage in spvp before, I would like to know what the build is. I’m surprised you got hit by the ranger’s pet though since you are obviously so pro.

9k is most likely BM-centered bunker melee power-build something like 0-10-30-10-20 with the extra crit-dmg for pets. And it had to be on low armor for it to happen, but it is very doable.