Guild Wars 2

daydream.2938:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

What I see is a bad guardian. Back to the OP topic: A-net said they will take a closer look to the mechanics of ele and his buffs, for thief is nothing mentioned because he is not considered to be OP. As soon as you reach a high level in tournaments (paid 2nd, 3th round) you will understand why a thief needs no nerfs. Actually it’s from my point of view the hardest job to avoid diying. Because it’s much easier to counter a thief in an organized team / 5v5 then in a zerg where you have 5 ppl on you.

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That isnt to say thiefs dont have issues. Culling needs to be fixed!

But even if we agreed that burst could use a revision because its not fun for new players (not inherently unbalanced, just not fun). Then thief must have compensation in some other way, or they would become useless in top play.

I know I said, I found you biased … but here we seem to agree. It is not to say I don’t overall find thieves to be pretty balanced. Burst could use a revision, simply because it is many situations not possible to counter it; be that due to a pug or be that any a fight with not enough CC to deal with the thief. And yes, ofc a revision in general have to take place if burst is being looked into. And no … we shouldn’t balance thieves based on what a pug can do or can’t do.

I think thieves are either underestimating or throwing a lowball when it comes to thieves utility though. Yes, they look pale when compared to ele’s but who doesn’t? And yes, they are fragile in all the AoE.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Archaon.6245:

A glass thief can’t down a bunker solo…even if he’s really good, if you play bunker and a burst thief can down you solo you’ve better to l2p your spec….the only class that can down a bunker guardian solo, if played good, is necro….but a glass thief just can’t, when i go bunker with guardian i can laugh at D/D thieves all day long….and noone playing bunker at just a decent level have problems with a glass thief, you can actually end killing him despite your low dmg while laughing with full hp and maybe writing stuff like “Have you finished? I have to smoke my cig..” in say chat..

Glass thieves are dangerous in 1vs1 only if you run a glass spec too, like every other glass…or in team fights where thief’s role is to down half hp focused targets

Never ever happens if you catch the right build with soldier runes and shouts remove a condition, as this sets are many top-guards playing. So mabye a ranger can solo you in terms of constant dmg.

A ranger can solo a bunker guardian maybe…but it usually takes too much time, btw i have to agree that for a glass thief it’s already hard to bring down a 70% hp guard…usually you have to go for dps targets, it’s also unuseful to target a bunker while there are dps up around

Being overpowered in my books means you have a jack of all trades without losing anything hence why eles needs a look at.

Eles have:
Good Burst
Good Sustained Damage
Good Condition Removal
Good Sustain Heals
Good Escapes
Good CC
Great Boon Controls

They literally have everything in the entire game… If your a bunker you should do crap damage.
In my opinion bunkers really needs to be reworked because bunker’s are actually pretty overpowered in the meta atm.