Guild Wars 2

I’ve been playing Spvp for some weeks now, and PVP is my top concern for any MMO I play for the past decade. What is the point of getting a cool hard-to-get weapon, if I can’t stomp n00bs with it right?

Besides the total lack of decent reward for our efforts, my biggest complaint right now is just leavers and no-shows in free tournaments. These are small teams fighting objective(points) based matches, and you CANNOT afford to have less people in point games. If it was a deathmatch then being outnumbered is tough, but far more doable than being spread out over the map.

Please punish people for not showing up to matches they queue for, tournaments free or paid are for people who want a real match. I’ve always supported punishment mechanics in other games like WoW and LoL, they have very good reason for existing and to me this is yet another example of a half-baked approach to PvP. Yet another reason PvP is almost dead completely.

You should lose rank and/or be unable to PvP AT ALL for x-minutes, that would include kicking you out of random games if you’re choosing to stay in them rather than accept the match you queued for.

Also just to address potential complaint about punishment, some people say it’s unfair to be punished if you DC or have computer troubles. That sucks for you, but that’s just a reason you should be playing randoms and not tournaments. It’s YOUR job to be sure your system is stable enough, it’s in no way the responsibility of the other 4 teammates and it’s unfair to put your burden on them.

Weirdly enough, I couldn’t be bothered reading your first post, but did the second. I completely agree. People should have the required system to play this game.

Whenever I see, “punish” and “players” in the same sentence, I tend to disregard everything that follows.

That said, I just spent over an hour in queue for a free tourney (5PM EST on a Friday? Wut?) and it’s a 4v5 and we get handled. This is obviously ridiculous and I’m just hoping that “The Patch™” fixes it.

The solution isn’t to punish, because the most obvious thing people come up with is a ban from queuing/pvp for a certain amount of time, but how is that supposed to help wait times again? And why should the team of 4 be obliged to feed glory to the team of 5?

The solution should be incentives. Bonus glory for the disadvantaged team, increased point acquisition rates for nodes held by the disadvantaged team, etc.

Transistor.8746:

Whenever I see, “punish” and “players” in the same sentence, I tend to disregard everything that follows.

That said, I just spent over an hour in queue for a free tourney (5PM EST on a Friday? Wut?) and it’s a 4v5 and we get handled. This is obviously ridiculous and I’m just hoping that “The Patch™” fixes it.

The solution isn’t to punish, because the most obvious thing people come up with is a ban from queuing/pvp for a certain amount of time, but how is that supposed to help wait times again? And why should the team of 4 be obliged to feed glory to the team of 5?

The solution should be incentives. Bonus glory for the disadvantaged team, increased point acquisition rates for nodes held by the disadvantaged team, etc.

Agreed. I really like the idea of increased points for holding nodes and bonus glory or better chest rewards for disadvantaged teams. That will keep players who do end up in a 4v5 from quitting and at least attempt to play the match. The only issue I can see if that was the case would be the bursting problem. It’s really hard to take on more than one person even if you are skilled only because the dps of two (even if they’re both noobs) is extremely hard to survive.

SuperHaze.4210:

Transistor.8746:

Whenever I see, “punish” and “players” in the same sentence, I tend to disregard everything that follows.

That said, I just spent over an hour in queue for a free tourney (5PM EST on a Friday? Wut?) and it’s a 4v5 and we get handled. This is obviously ridiculous and I’m just hoping that “The Patch™” fixes it.

The solution isn’t to punish, because the most obvious thing people come up with is a ban from queuing/pvp for a certain amount of time, but how is that supposed to help wait times again? And why should the team of 4 be obliged to feed glory to the team of 5?

The solution should be incentives. Bonus glory for the disadvantaged team, increased point acquisition rates for nodes held by the disadvantaged team, etc.

Agreed. I really like the idea of increased points for holding nodes and bonus glory or better chest rewards for disadvantaged teams. That will keep players who do end up in a 4v5 from quitting and at least attempt to play the match. The only issue I can see if that was the case would be the bursting problem. It’s really hard to take on more than one person even if you are skilled only because the dps of two (even if they’re both noobs) is extremely hard to survive.

Bonus points would be nice, but you will still most likely lose the match and thus be putting in twice the effort for half the reward. It really wouldn’t solve anything at all.

Bans won’t “help” queue times, but I would rather take an extra minute to have a full team than help afk’ers and leavers farm RP for doing nothing.

What about a vote option? Say for the first 30-60 seconds of the match the team with less than 5 people can vote to forfeit and neither team gets a bonus. That way if people want to still play they can, but if people want a REAL match as tournies are intended for, then they could re-queue. It’s not really unfair to the other team because they don’t deserve the match bonus for winning a 4v5 anyway.