Guild Wars 2

Last night was the worst matchmaking in my pvp experience with gw2. I solo qued as I normally do and won 1 match and had 1 close loss (1 point) the rest made me turn the game off ignoring my unfinished daily, and boot up the ps4.

As this is a test season Anet should look at my matches to glean what info they can on how not to pair teams. As this is also destroying my rank, I’m done pugging.

So what is the problem in your particular case then?

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

So what is the problem in your particular case then?

Sorry for not elaborating.

One match I had a thief who pre match apologized for being new in advance, and my team ran around off points, we faced a full dragon squad.

Nearly every match last night was a similarly out matched senario and this entire week wasn’t much better. I’m not certain but maybe having a win rate above 60% triggered a kill code on my pairings.

At the moment many people farm for their beta key so PvP is even less populated. Lesser population means fewer matchmaking options.

Aidenwolf.5964:

we faced a full dragon squad.

Why does this point still show up everywhere when someone complains about bad match making?

The PvP rank has absolutely nothing to do with skill!

Shylock.4653:

At the moment many people farm for their beta key so PvP is even less populated. Lesser population means fewer matchmaking options.

I don’t think people are avoiding ranked PvP because of beta key farming. Check your friends list and see how many are actually farming.

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

IMO, most people aren’t doing ranked because the leaderboard is a joke and the matchmaking is equally bad.

It’s almost unfathomable that ANET…

1. CHANGED from an MMR based leaderboard to this grind based model
2. CHANGED from the totally logical and fair model of separating premade and solo quers to a system.
3. Match totally new players against (and with) very experienced players.

Think of ANY other game…not just MMOs…how popular do you think that game would be with players with all of the above ridiculousness.

SPESHAL.9106:

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

Sure, they are choosing mindless farming. There is actually a nice unique reward to get → a beta portal.

What do you get currently from playing pvp?

Teutos.8620:

SPESHAL.9106:

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

Sure, they are choosing mindless farming. There is actually a nice unique reward to get -> a beta portal.

What do you get currently from playing pvp?

Enjoyment. Not everyone enjoys PvE.

SPESHAL.9106:

Shylock.4653:

At the moment many people farm for their beta key so PvP is even less populated. Lesser population means fewer matchmaking options.

I don’t think people are avoiding ranked PvP because of beta key farming. Check your friends list and see how many are actually farming.

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

Sadly quite a few (20-30%). I have even asked some why the farm for this beta key an got told that they are hoping that Stronghold will be included in the beta.

But you are absolutely right these has many reasons. Bad leaderboard is definitely another reason for this.

SPESHAL.9106:

Shylock.4653:

At the moment many people farm for their beta key so PvP is even less populated. Lesser population means fewer matchmaking options.

I don’t think people are avoiding ranked PvP because of beta key farming. Check your friends list and see how many are actually farming.

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

IMO, most people aren’t doing ranked because the leaderboard is a joke and the matchmaking is equally bad.

It’s almost unfathomable that ANET…

1. CHANGED from an MMR based leaderboard to this grind based model
2. CHANGED from the totally logical and fair model of separating premade and solo quers to a system.
3. Match totally new players against (and with) very experienced players.

Think of ANY other game…not just MMOs…how popular do you think that game would be with players with all of the above ridiculousness.

Exactly how I feel at the moment. I always solo que because I que when I want, not on my team’s schedule, but after this I’ll be teaming up.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Teutos.8620:

SPESHAL.9106:

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

Sure, they are choosing mindless farming. There is actually a nice unique reward to get -> a beta portal.

What do you get currently from playing pvp?

Enjoyment. Not everyone enjoys PvE.

I’d have said the same some time ago, but with the current broken match making system, this does not seem to be the case anymore.

Aidenwolf.5964:

SPESHAL.9106:

Shylock.4653:

At the moment many people farm for their beta key so PvP is even less populated. Lesser population means fewer matchmaking options.

I don’t think people are avoiding ranked PvP because of beta key farming. Check your friends list and see how many are actually farming.

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

IMO, most people aren’t doing ranked because the leaderboard is a joke and the matchmaking is equally bad.

It’s almost unfathomable that ANET…

1. CHANGED from an MMR based leaderboard to this grind based model
2. CHANGED from the totally logical and fair model of separating premade and solo quers to a system.
3. Match totally new players against (and with) very experienced players.

Think of ANY other game…not just MMOs…how popular do you think that game would be with players with all of the above ridiculousness.

Exactly how I feel at the moment. I always solo que because I que when I want, not on my team’s schedule, but after this I’ll be teaming up.

Who says you need a fixed team to queue with a team? Make friends in soloq, group together with friends that are online, make more friends from queues, repeat until you’re always able to throw together a spontaneous team.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Aidenwolf.5964:

SPESHAL.9106:

Shylock.4653:

At the moment many people farm for their beta key so PvP is even less populated. Lesser population means fewer matchmaking options.

I don’t think people are avoiding ranked PvP because of beta key farming. Check your friends list and see how many are actually farming.

If they ARE choosing to mindlessly farm versus PvP, then that is even more indicative of problems with this game.

IMO, most people aren’t doing ranked because the leaderboard is a joke and the matchmaking is equally bad.

It’s almost unfathomable that ANET…

1. CHANGED from an MMR based leaderboard to this grind based model
2. CHANGED from the totally logical and fair model of separating premade and solo quers to a system.
3. Match totally new players against (and with) very experienced players.

Think of ANY other game…not just MMOs…how popular do you think that game would be with players with all of the above ridiculousness.

Exactly how I feel at the moment. I always solo que because I que when I want, not on my team’s schedule, but after this I’ll be teaming up.

Who says you need a fixed team to queue with a team? Make friends in soloq, group together with friends that are online, make more friends from queues, repeat until you’re always able to throw together a spontaneous team.

That’s what I do when I que as a group. I see guild members or friends or good players I’ve met in ranked and we team for a few matches. When I say team I simply mean non solo.

I’ll be queuing as a party from now on or not all. Anet can’t balance teams to my satisfaction and it isn’t worth the frustration.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

So what is the problem in your particular case then?

Sorry for not elaborating.

One match I had a thief who pre match apologized for being new in advance, and my team ran around off points, we faced a full dragon squad.

Nearly every match last night was a similarly out matched senario and this entire week wasn’t much better. I’m not certain but maybe having a win rate above 60% triggered a kill code on my pairings.

Fighting off point isn’t a bad thing universally and if you think it is then you probably need to l2p in that respect. If they are fighting off point and you are sat on point all game then you are the problem not them. You have to get off point and help your team and peel for them etc.

Solo que giving me nothing but no win situations again (I know, why am I solo queuing). I’d like to ask the PVP balance gurus how putting a group of scrubs on my team then matching us with an all guild squad is balanced or fair, or fun. I can’t have been favored in any match I’ve played this week. Is the goal of this system to force players to party que?

I hope you’ve collected fantastic data from this test and that it motivates you to split solo que from team que again.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

So what is the problem in your particular case then?

Sorry for not elaborating.

One match I had a thief who pre match apologized for being new in advance, and my team ran around off points, we faced a full dragon squad.

Nearly every match last night was a similarly out matched senario and this entire week wasn’t much better. I’m not certain but maybe having a win rate above 60% triggered a kill code on my pairings.

Fighting off point isn’t a bad thing universally and if you think it is then you probably need to l2p in that respect. If they are fighting off point and you are sat on point all game then you are the problem not them. You have to get off point and help your team and peel for them etc.

You made me laugh. You should’ve been able to infer that we were losing in points which means we need caps. If you’re arguing semantically then you are correct that it’s not always bad to fight off points, but if you think holding a point is a bad thing (against pressure, did I ever say I was just standing there?) then you are certainly the kind of player I wouldn’t want to team with.

The match I mentioned had players fighting (and dying) off point. If they at least fought on the point, they could contest it causing the other team to not gain points.

Teutos.8620:

Aidenwolf.5964:

we faced a full dragon squad.

Why does this point still show up everywhere when someone complains about bad match making?

The PvP rank has absolutely nothing to do with skill!

No, it does not. But 5 dragon ranks will have more experience than a team of 5 deer players. It’s still some indication of how the game will go.

Laraley.7695:

Teutos.8620:

Aidenwolf.5964:

we faced a full dragon squad.

Why does this point still show up everywhere when someone complains about bad match making?

The PvP rank has absolutely nothing to do with skill!

No, it does not. But 5 dragon ranks will have more experience than a team of 5 deer players. It’s still some indication of how the game will go.

Exactly why I brought it up, New vs Experienced. Also, new players or bad ones seem to panic when they see the finishers.

Teutos.8620:

Aidenwolf.5964:

we faced a full dragon squad.

Why does this point still show up everywhere when someone complains about bad match making?

The PvP rank has absolutely nothing to do with skill!

But it IS implented in the matchmaking. New players facing all Dragon Ranks just PROOFS how broken matchmaking is. (or how matchmaking becomes broken after 2-3mins wait, due low pop)

What I don’t understand is this,,,,
If you are serious about the laderbordsz and your rank etc etc
why do you join solo when you know you will be teamed with
new players and matched against premades?
Why don’t you get a team?It’s the only way you can effectively
compete in a 5v5 team arena.
Solo Q is for players that want a more competitive environment but
are not dead serious about rankings or like me they couldn’t care less
about the laderboarddszsz.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Laraley.7695:

Teutos.8620:

Aidenwolf.5964:

we faced a full dragon squad.

Why does this point still show up everywhere when someone complains about bad match making?

The PvP rank has absolutely nothing to do with skill!

No, it does not. But 5 dragon ranks will have more experience than a team of 5 deer players. It’s still some indication of how the game will go.

Exactly why I brought it up, New vs Experienced. Also, new players or bad ones seem to panic when they see the finishers.

That quaggan finisher scares the crap out of me.

Please pull up my last match in ranked and ask yourself 3 questions.

1. Is this fair?
2. Is this fun?
3. Is there any reason why a player would PVP if this was their experience?