Engi are one of those classes that brings a variety of useful tools to a team fight. Their variety happens to work out really well in certain situations but the fact that they can be outplayed, means they’re not as overpowered as other classes seem to be.
I just think the power to 1v2 and kite really well is a lesser power to unique Moa plays in larger fights, Stealth/Invuln revives, high time to kill when focused, and downed cleave that probably only a Zerker Warrior could match.
For the sake of curiousness, what do Engi’s offer in downed cleaves that tops that of Warriors and Guardians? It’s hard to imagine an Engi going anywhere near the damage these two classes can produce in team fights.
Poison and blind at the same time and you can cleave from a distance.
As I thought, tools that help other people cleave. That doesn’t mean they’re the best cleavers themselves, which was what I was refering to. There’s no way they can reach the 7k+ AoE powerhouse of Warriors and Guardians that Chaith was refering to… unless i’m missing something.
Poison Nades had their damage buffed to match Chill, they can do 4500 damage to glassy people combined. Grenade Barrage & Nade spam is very key with added and buffed Vulnerability. Really though, what I attempt to do each fight is roll the dice for Rampage and really hit it home. A Marauder Amulet class with Air/Fire and chance on hit to proc Rockets, it’s a scary thing m8
we all pray for rampage. still tornado can deny resses like nothing else.
In my experience it’s not worth, try to roll Elixir X a couple seconds before something goes down so you have time to cancel your Tornado and do real cleave
eh, if its a necro in a teamfight you can sometimes just stunlock them with tornado. it’s a great moment. my pal runs a marauders HGH build and his tornado hits so hard with might he splatters people with it. it’s much more of a niche skill but you can make it work, especially vs necros.
if you can stick on one or two dudes (speed up w dodge rolls) and spam blinds and launch you can mess them up pretty bad.
Engi are one of those classes that brings a variety of useful tools to a team fight. Their variety happens to work out really well in certain situations but the fact that they can be outplayed, means they’re not as overpowered as other classes seem to be.
I just think the power to 1v2 and kite really well is a lesser power to unique Moa plays in larger fights, Stealth/Invuln revives, high time to kill when focused, and downed cleave that probably only a Zerker Warrior could match.
For the sake of curiousness, what do Engi’s offer in downed cleaves that tops that of Warriors and Guardians? It’s hard to imagine an Engi going anywhere near the damage these two classes can produce in team fights.
Poison and blind at the same time and you can cleave from a distance.
As I thought, tools that help other people cleave. That doesn’t mean they’re the best cleavers themselves, which was what I was refering to. There’s no way they can reach the 7k+ AoE powerhouse of Warriors and Guardians that Chaith was refering to… unless i’m missing something.
Poison Nades had their damage buffed to match Chill, they can do 4500 damage to glassy people combined. Grenade Barrage & Nade spam is very key with added and buffed Vulnerability. Really though, what I attempt to do each fight is roll the dice for Rampage and really hit it home. A Marauder Amulet class with Air/Fire and chance on hit to proc Rockets, it’s a scary thing m8
we all pray for rampage. still tornado can deny resses like nothing else.
In my experience it’s not worth, try to roll Elixir X a couple seconds before something goes down so you have time to cancel your Tornado and do real cleave
eh, if its a necro in a teamfight you can sometimes just stunlock them with tornado. it’s a great moment. my pal runs a marauders HGH build and his tornado hits so hard with might he splatters people with it. it’s much more of a niche skill but you can make it work, especially vs necros.
if you can stick on one or two dudes (speed up w dodge rolls) and spam blinds and launch you can mess them up pretty bad.
True that.
Don’t forget Marauder Engi messes up people pretty bad too!
Engi are one of those classes that brings a variety of useful tools to a team fight. Their variety happens to work out really well in certain situations but the fact that they can be outplayed, means they’re not as overpowered as other classes seem to be.
I just think the power to 1v2 and kite really well is a lesser power to unique Moa plays in larger fights, Stealth/Invuln revives, high time to kill when focused, and downed cleave that probably only a Zerker Warrior could match.
For the sake of curiousness, what do Engi’s offer in downed cleaves that tops that of Warriors and Guardians? It’s hard to imagine an Engi going anywhere near the damage these two classes can produce in team fights.
Poison and blind at the same time and you can cleave from a distance.
As I thought, tools that help other people cleave. That doesn’t mean they’re the best cleavers themselves, which was what I was refering to. There’s no way they can reach the 7k+ AoE powerhouse of Warriors and Guardians that Chaith was refering to… unless i’m missing something.
Poison Nades had their damage buffed to match Chill, they can do 4500 damage to glassy people combined. Grenade Barrage & Nade spam is very key with added and buffed Vulnerability. Really though, what I attempt to do each fight is roll the dice for Rampage and really hit it home. A Marauder Amulet class with Air/Fire and chance on hit to proc Rockets, it’s a scary thing m8
we all pray for rampage. still tornado can deny resses like nothing else.
In my experience it’s not worth, try to roll Elixir X a couple seconds before something goes down so you have time to cancel your Tornado and do real cleave
eh, if its a necro in a teamfight you can sometimes just stunlock them with tornado. it’s a great moment. my pal runs a marauders HGH build and his tornado hits so hard with might he splatters people with it. it’s much more of a niche skill but you can make it work, especially vs necros.
if you can stick on one or two dudes (speed up w dodge rolls) and spam blinds and launch you can mess them up pretty bad.
True that.
Don’t forget Marauder Engi messes up people pretty bad too!
playing cele with Egun and FT currently. i can ‘drop it like it’s hot’ w on demand 9 burn stacks its nice af.
Poison Nades had their damage buffed to match Chill, they can do 4500 damage to glassy people combined. Grenade Barrage & Nade spam is very key with buffed Vulnerability. Really though, what I attempt to do each fight is roll the dice for Rampage and really hit it home. A Marauder Amulet class Rampage with Air/Fire and chance on hit to proc Rockets, it’s a scary thing m8
so you actually stopped on marauder?
Cause i tried cele – with alc explo and tools – useless
Soldier – wuot for so tanki?
Some “top team players” actually running those amulets though…
Marauder – beats it all with 4 kits or gk tk mk elixir s/eg expl 111 alc 221 tools 31 1/2.
Soldier – wuot for so tank?
Mesmers.
It’s also more of a Hambow-like role with a bigger focus on CC since you don’t have to disengage or pop a defensive cooldown everything someone looks at you.
Soldier – wuot for so tank?
Mesmers.
It’s also more of a Hambow-like role with a bigger focus on CC since you don’t have to disengage or pop a defensive cooldown everything someone looks at you.
BigZan played a great soldiers engi in the last EU monthly. it’s a valuable build. just watch the games to see.
Soldier – wuot for so tank?
Mesmers.
It’s also more of a Hambow-like role with a bigger focus on CC since you don’t have to disengage or pop a defensive cooldown everything someone looks at you.
BigZan played a great soldiers engi in the last EU monthly. it’s a valuable build. just watch the games to see.
Yeah, I saw. He even ditched Mortar for Elixir X, the set vs. ORNG.
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