Guild Wars 2

So, the Spectate system – it is nice indeed to watch how people play and the builds they are using.
BUT we’re facing some major problems with it.

1) The Exploit to teleport on any map, specially Legacy of the Foefire. Whenever you hear “Your lord is under attack” you can just very quickly switch to Spectator mode and then come back to your team. You’ll still be with the same amount of points you had, and now you’re instantly back to the base. You’re on the far point and need to go to the home point? Just do this. If you’re fast the chance someone spectating getting your place is very slim.

2) You happen to spectate a 4vs4 match where Red team is holding two nodes and has 300 points already, and blue team has 50 points and is struggling to hold a single node. You will just join the Red team, making the dominating team even stronger. In this case I think people should be forced to join the weaker team.

3) You’re in a 4vs3, in the team with 3 players. You notice your team is starting to get crushed by the 4player team. You Spectate, wait for the auto-balance and join the better team. People are doing this all the time…

4) The ridiculous situation in the beginning of a match, where people are deciding which team to join. Two of the highest ranking players in the previous match are on Red, and the lowest ranked player of the previous match is on Blue. People will just keep waiting and waiting until someone else joins the blue team so they can spam the button to join the red team. Some matches stay just like that (2vs1 with 8 people or more Spectating, just waiting), and people start leaving because they refuse to join the team that will obviously lose.

Unfortunately hotjoins is considered casual PvP, so you’re really not going to be expecting fair or balanced matches. That is what tournaments are for, so I very much doubt they will fix anything.

I do know there is a confirmed “anti-leaver” system coming soon in the works.

So just because it’s casual it deserves to be not fun and broken?
Those problems are probably very easy to fix and will all enhance the casual pvp experience.

I was kinda expecting the “yeah… well… hotjoin is supposed to suck anyway.”

hotjoin deserves to be removed from the game and anet needs to reassess their profit strategy. there are innumerable ways to provide a casual game mode that don’t involve all the issues op mentioned & many others. gw1 random arena was a much better experience than hotjoin currently is (let that sink in for a moment). also, the “server” model is an outdated one, and only introduces unnecessary complexity.

Hj is fine. Join in, kill some ppl, go again. Very casual. Because its casual, there is no need to cry about imbalance or some spectate abuse. Its only hot join. If you care about winning, go SoloQ.

And actually the Spectate is not for HJ. It is made for tPvP, rated matches and Tournaments like the TP Invi.

Alafin.3714:

Hj is fine. Join in, kill some ppl, go again. Very casual. Because its casual, there is no need to cry about imbalance or some spectate abuse. Its only hot join. If you care about winning, go SoloQ.

everyone cares about winning
everyone cares about having a fair fight
you may accept the cancer that is hotjoin, but you only give devs the false impression it should stay.