Guild Wars 2

At what point does any of that say an almost esl level player is stuck on bronze?

sexuallegend.2153:

Archon.6480:

Attempting to 1v2 an Ele and anything is a mistake…

Yea if you’re bad. I really don’t get this hype about Eles. Unless its a full heal/support ele, then I literally have no problem defeating them. If its full heal, then the fight won’t end because I’d end up killing their teammate and then its 1v1 with the full heal ele which is just kinda boring. I’d likely lose interest before it ends.

Ha, ha. Ok ok, I can see you killing his teammate (all while typing insults), but I run a support build so would stalemate both at best. If I only knew what rune and traits you use, maybe I could kill one of them as well…

NeXeD.3042:

At what point does any of that say an almost esl level player is stuck on bronze?

Just use a bit of your brain and you would find out why they are NOT stuck in bronze.

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Dreamer.1952:

NeXeD.3042:

At what point does any of that say an almost esl level player is stuck on bronze?

Just use a bit of your brain and you would find out why they are NOT stuck in bronze.

So you want me to assume that because a player did something stupid which may or may not have actually been a joke that his skill level is actually that of a bronze player?

No. I’ve played against kitten and he does not belong in bronze.

Please try again to find me one almost esl level player that is STUCK in bronze.

All these whiner babies complaining because they now have an individual skill rating that isn’t as high as they THOUGHT it would be need to take a step back and reevaluate themselves rather than blaming everyone else.

I will tell you how it works in the next season, so you can understand it.

Next season i will take in the initial 10 matches one of my decent friends and will Duoq with him. In every match i will pay gold for one of the other teammebers so he drops of the match. I will have my 10-0 wins and be in Legendary. There I will still paying enemies and will play every third day one match.

Anything else to add?

Edit: Ah just forgott. I will play at 5 am so i can play against ppl 300 points below me.
Edit2: AND then I will come to this very forum AND tell how bad the Bronze players are AND they deserve to be in Bronze AND they have no skills …..

I decided to do an alt account and check the skill level of bronze players and if there are any that have understanding of the game and deserve to be higher than bronze. I really want to know whats going on.

Rolisteel.1375:

I decided to do an alt account and check the skill level of bronze players and if there are any that have understanding of the game and deserve to be higher than bronze. I really want to know whats going on.

You can work up your way. But its the hell, takes alote of time and frustrating. Currently iam in silver started in bronze with 835 points, because I messed up the initial matches playing Ranger to get 10 wins for the Backpiece. (I know its my fault but i wanted that backpiece and the 10 matches was the only thing i missed).

Iam playing now 5-10 matches with my main profession soloq, NO DUOq, because all of my decent friends are in gold-platinum. I am not saying that I am a legend player or even a platinum player, but its a pain to work yourself up because it depends on RNG Luck.

played a couple games on an alt acct as base power necro and i was 1v2ing…. on a base power necro in bronze… and winning…… also let me add not just winning, destroying. People in bronze cant even dodge DS 1…..

i will do it with core condi necro

Just did placement (8-2, 1 loss due to authorization servers going offline so it marked me as deserter) on my alt account w/o HOT on core thief, got in gold 3 lel. Not sure about MMR reset there, also considering i didn’t have many games on alt account i assume the new players MMR is… VERY VERY average.

I started at 600 mmr. Now Im 1020 almost silver. I play 10 match daily and try to end 6-4 7-3. Once i have 8 win straight until i lost and stop playing. Doing this i notice my mmr went up fast than playing a lot of games and falling into a lost streak like i use to do in the first week. I play the daily Achieve and if i see that im losing, i stop to avoid getting down on the ladder. I don’t think the match making is the problem, i think the problem is those placement match. i see a lot of people with 10-2 in the 250 leaderboard. So i think that is possible that someone wait until the last week or last day of the season to play in ranked and have a good placement match and ending in platinum or legendary division and thats not fair.

Everyone should start at bronze and battle your way up. The reason that a loooot of good player are in bronze is bcause of those 10 placement match. Im a straight bronze player and im happy that im so close to get out of this hell and this is my first league.

any good players in bronze are probably just deluded.

Since everyone trying something out with there alts i did it too.

I borrowed the alt of my bro asked a decent pvp friend to play with me the initial 10 matches. He took his alt.

First match was a mess because I had the Default keys, but then we won.

But the experimenting didnt end there. Later a third friend of mine tried to sync with our matches. He managed to join with us 2 times.

• One with our team. That one was a massacre, we owned bad (Using also TS).
• The other one he was on the enemy team. There he trolled. He went to empty far and stayed on the side of the point not capping. He went to my side while I attakced the lord and just watched….. (Things like this i expirienced alote in Bronze, read my other posts, funny now i understand).

10 matches 7 wins 3 looses. I landed in low platinum, my friend in high gold.

This is it for me to argue in this forum. Bronze is hell if you have a bad RNG (Matchmaking) LUCK. I got my proof and I wish you all gl in Bronze.

im curious if you can maintain plat

I’ve put you on the ground multiple times nexed, I am still in bronze.
So does that make you as bad as me?

Before you start sprouting off nonsense about bronze, perhaps you should fall to 500 MMR and see how it really is. Sure you can 1v3 1v2, but you obviously lack pvp skills if you think 1 person can counter 5. You can’t for the simple reason that your team/ enemy team doesn’t even realize that standing on a point is how you win the game.

Can you get “stuck” at that low MMR (500 -600) No. the matches are completly random which means eventally you will win. And the higher you climb the easier things get. silver, gold , plat and even legendary will be easier then bronze.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Highlie.7641:

I’ve put you on the ground multiple times nexed, I am still in bronze.
So does that make you as bad as me?

Before you start sprouting off nonsense about bronze, perhaps you should fall to 500 MMR and see how it really is. Sure you can 1v3 1v2, but you obviously lack pvp skills if you think 1 person can counter 5. You can’t for the simple reason that your team/ enemy team doesn’t even realize that standing on a point is how you win the game.

Can you get “stuck” at that low MMR (500 -600) No. the matches are completly random which means eventally you will win. And the higher you climb the easier things get. silver, gold , plat and even legendary will be easier then bronze.

my comment was not meant for you and im not claiming to be good so please dont assume im good or even decent.

my comment was to the person who said he got plat on an alt. Im curious if he can maintain plat or if it levels out after enough games have been played

Ah but assuming is what we do best here at the forums

It takes quite awhile to climb, so really the only thing he needs to worry about are people “gaming” there placement matches.

Also i don’t need to “assume” anything, you are good. you know when to stand in the point, in my books that makes you a hero.

good or not i also play a very sub par power necro build. cant play condi worth a kitten for some reason.

If i can maintain Platinum – I dont care. I am sure i can maintain Gold. Also there are ways to maintain Platinum/Legendaty wich I alredy wrote. But I dont care about the alt of my brother.

To be on topic again (The Best players are in Bronze). It can be really hard to get out of Bronze if your RNG Luck doenst like you.

I am currently in mid Silver and going higher. I am sure i will be in Gold soon when the RNG luck helps me.

I played this morning 2 solo q matches 1 win one loose, after the experiment I got my lession and played today with the same decent pvp friend who is in upper gold now with his main and we owned all matches. I got 25+ rankpoints (in soloq i only get 11-14 points) from ea match we won.

Before, when I was in Bronze I played with another Gold friend and we had a 50-50 win loose ratio while he lost -30 points ea loose and got +4 ea win. He dropped down to low Gold and eventually we stopped playing and he told me in the end: “Sry, I wont be a Silver player.”

There does seem to be something not quite right about Bronze Ranking.

I have played 55 matches and started at 550 and the highest I have got to is 620, win/loss is around 45/55% – best/worst runs have been 4 wins and 4 losses. All players are trying – with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions – and the losing score rarely drops below 250. The matches have been pretty decent imo.

You would get this sort of variation if the game outcome for Bronze was close to random – I suspect with 10 random soloQers then skill/knowledge is of little consequence because the variation of NON-skill based selection is far far greater, i.e. you may get a duo or a OP class or someone doing dailies or someone trying a new build or class or weapons etc etc. Now at much higher levels one could guess that these NON-skill based variations are unlikely to be common – at which point skill may indeed be a significant factor for some individual outcomes.

But if in Bronze best ploy would be to team up with a friend and DuoQ, imo.

Anet need to increase the ‘noise’ at low levels to obtain better parameterisation (standard Control Theory) – i.e. points variation needs to be greater than at higher levels. Either that or some SoloQers in bronze – who are good – are going to have to play 100s of matches to make their increased skill actually statistically significant.

Frankly I am enjoying this season far far better than last – where premades farmed soloQers – so not too worried either way.

Gwaihir.1745:

Its easy to get out of if you don’t belong there.

False. If you’re there you’re going to make a maximum of 13-15 points per win or loss… Then it’s a dice roll to see if you get a team that knows a qwerty keyboard.