The up coming PvP leagues & MM
They said they will improve matchmaking for the next season. I think they’ve disabled it right now, so you’re getting random team mates even on ranked. Don’t worry, the number of players will increase when the new PvP season starts, so you will have a more varied pool of possible team mates and enemy.
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Ok thanks good to know, its happening so much now im getting completely frustrated.
Literally just now i was in a match with the same friend and we had a warrior quit playing because he couldnt do anything. We were winning at this point and he said this is B******** and ran off from a 2 vs 1. He didnt do enough dmg to hurt the guardians and he couldnt survive for 10 sec in 1 vs 2 fights.
So because he quit our other warrior quit, the score was 280 to about 320 and they just quit. And we were winning 275-250 earlier in the match, this expansion better come quick cause this is getting silly dumb.
Ok thanks good to know, its happening so much now im getting completely frustrated.
Literally just now i was in a match with the same friend and we had a warrior quit playing because he couldnt do anything. We were winning at this point and he said this is B******** and ran off from a 2 vs 1. He didnt do enough dmg to hurt the guardians and he couldnt survive for 10 sec in 1 vs 2 fights.
So because he quit our other warrior quit, the score was 280 to about 320 and they just quit. And we were winning 275-250 earlier in the match, this expansion better come quick cause this is getting silly dumb.
No, matchmaking is still active.
And even if the system was perfect, the human element of it will always be an issue. If you’re running into matches where you have bad players, unfortunately that means your MMR isn’t high enough for serious people to play.
To talk about the 2v2 resulting in 1v2 due mesmer leaving.
I think I can give you some insight about that:
The thing is; experienced mesmers/thieves in SoloQ learned the hard way that trying to even the fights as their own(making 2v2), mostly results in a loss.
Mesmers/thieves are made to +1 only. If you end up, like your situation, in a 2v2, its most likely smarter for the mesmer/thief to disengage and +1 somehwere else, unless someone else of your team is smart enough to see this situation on the map and react by coming.
Looking at this further; if there was a 2v2, normally someone else like an Engi/Ele/Necro/Warr should have taken the mesmer place to get a more equal 2v2 and the mesmer could stay to actually +1 that fight.
I’m by far not a pro on thief but I mostly disengage from 2v2’s aswel, expecting someone else who can actually stand on a point will take over from me while I go decap or +1.
If you happen to see this; a mesmer/thief leaving you in 1v2, it means he already knows its a loss (granted he’s experienced).
Never ever assume being in a 2v2 with you as warr and a thief (or mesmer) next to u, its safe to say you’re going to win that 2v2. Because you’re basically the only one who can stand/contest the point while thief/mesmer cant.
Certainly when fighting warr/engi – warr/ele – ele/necro – necro/warr etc etc.
All the above can be ignored if: one of the enemies is a thief/mesmer himself.
Then a mesmer/thief from your team CAN even the fight in the 2v2 on its own.
Dont always assume ppl who are disengaging 2v2’s are noobs; because alot of experienced SoloQ DPS’ers actually do that because they know its lost already and wouldnt be wise to stay longer.
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Ok thanks good to know, its happening so much now im getting completely frustrated.
Literally just now i was in a match with the same friend and we had a warrior quit playing because he couldnt do anything. We were winning at this point and he said this is B******** and ran off from a 2 vs 1. He didnt do enough dmg to hurt the guardians and he couldnt survive for 10 sec in 1 vs 2 fights.
So because he quit our other warrior quit, the score was 280 to about 320 and they just quit. And we were winning 275-250 earlier in the match, this expansion better come quick cause this is getting silly dumb.
No, matchmaking is still active.
And even if the system was perfect, the human element of it will always be an issue. If you’re running into matches where you have bad players, unfortunately that means your MMR isn’t high enough for serious people to play.
Not really, the system many times punish you to have an high mmr because they put you with low mmr player to get an average mmr similar to oppenent team (and you basically need to carry bad player and in gw2 is not really easy).
I remember there was an old optic about high mmr.
Ok thanks good to know, its happening so much now im getting completely frustrated.
Literally just now i was in a match with the same friend and we had a warrior quit playing because he couldnt do anything. We were winning at this point and he said this is B******** and ran off from a 2 vs 1. He didnt do enough dmg to hurt the guardians and he couldnt survive for 10 sec in 1 vs 2 fights.
So because he quit our other warrior quit, the score was 280 to about 320 and they just quit. And we were winning 275-250 earlier in the match, this expansion better come quick cause this is getting silly dumb.
No, matchmaking is still active.
And even if the system was perfect, the human element of it will always be an issue. If you’re running into matches where you have bad players, unfortunately that means your MMR isn’t high enough for serious people to play.
Not really, the system many times punish you to have an high mmr because they put you with low mmr player to get an average mmr similar to oppenent team (and you basically need to carry bad player and in gw2 is not really easy).
I remember there was an old optic about high mmr.
Ya, this happens a lot. You (or specifically, me) gets thrown into matches and placed on teams that are just not worth talking about, until I lose enough matches and get paired with decent players again.
And the QQ from players not being able to 1v2 is reals. I have a theory that most of the players bragging about being able to 1v2 are players that hang around only in the low MMR bracket. The move up, go against decent players of the same skill level and QQ when they realize they can’t handle the higher MMR players in 1v2. Force a handful of loses, and jump back down to a bracket they can enjoy wrecking noobs.
And to the OP, if you 2v2 with a mez, you’ll normally lose so him just disengaging and surviving is better than both of you being stuck on respawn. I think a lot of people refer to a thief and mez as the “pain-train”. They both have that mobility to move around the map fast and +1 a lot of fights, and they can focus down targets together. From my experience, its really hard for a mez/thief to 1v1 from a fair fight where both sides have full hp and cds up. For me, when I’m entering a fight, I normally focus on the target that just popped his invuln, stunbreak, cleanse or heal. That or the target with the lowest hp ;p
I’m also a scrub too, sometimes I’ll disengage from a fight when we’re +1 or winning because I don’t notice the +1. Yup, 2v2 incoming and I run away, all cuz I didn’t see the ally next to me XD
Im seriously a bit confused about your responses. Im playing warrior and my friend is playing MM necro. We both fight on the cap points to hold and prevent the capping for the other team. You guys are sitting here telling me its ok if your a thief and/or mesmer to leave me to fight these 2 people on my own?
I refer to rangers and engys sitting from the edges free casting and you say for thiefs and mesmers its good for them to leave?
Me and my friend were winning every 1 vs 1 match up which is why we were in the games and your telling me that a mesmer/thief cant help at all with dps against a enemy?
The best part about your responses is you name your own situations to say its ok to leave. How can you help a team if all your good for is outnumbering fights? When you enter those AG and ESL tournaments the most important thing is winning all the even fights no matter the classes.
Also to chase, you dont know my MMR and there is no basis to what your saying.
Im seriously a bit confused about your responses. Im playing warrior and my friend is playing MM necro. We both fight on the cap points to hold and prevent the capping for the other team. You guys are sitting here telling me its ok if your a thief and/or mesmer to leave me to fight these 2 people on my own?
I refer to rangers and engys sitting from the edges free casting and you say for thiefs and mesmers its good for them to leave?
Me and my friend were winning every 1 vs 1 match up which is why we were in the games and your telling me that a mesmer/thief cant help at all with dps against a enemy?
The best part about your responses is you name your own situations to say its ok to leave. How can you help a team if all your good for is outnumbering fights? When you enter those AG and ESL tournaments the most important thing is winning all the even fights no matter the classes.
Also to chase, you dont know my MMR and there is no basis to what your saying.
One of the biggest reasons why mez and thief aren’t good in even fights is because they get all the focus and considering how squishy they are in general, unless you’re playing on the low end tier where everyone targets the d/d cele ele or bunker guard and wonder why they’re losing an even fight.
If I’m on my thief or mesmer, then I’m looking to +1 already even fights because the 2v2 should be applying enough sustain to let me pick out and gank a target before they get the chance to focus on me. If I’m in that 2v2, then normally I get so much pressure/focus that I have to continuously disengage and every time I re-engage I get so much focus right off the bat that I’m already disengaging again. It doesn’t make sense for me to be in those kinds of situations where I’m not adding anything to the fight and only able to distract them for a few seconds, it’s pretty close to me just standing on the sidelines watching a 1v2. So at that point, it’s more productive for me to rotate out.
And if you’re winning those 1v1s, then it would make sense for them to let you handle it on your own while they moved to fights that needed their help. It could of been he left you guys because he knew you could handle the 1v1s.
Don’t know if this helps you understand why I’m defending the mesmer. Who knows, he could of been a crappy mesmer that just didn’t know what he was doing. Or he could of been a higher tiered mesmer who was avoiding the focus/down so he could +1 somewhere else. Really hard to tell you what that mesmer was really thinking.
also, if you’re friend is playing a MM necro, then it makes sense to think he could leave you to a 2v3. Seeing how MM necros are just tanks. He probably thought he could help out on other node and then rotate back in after saving the other node. But I’m guessing both nodes got flipped from your story, which happens. He made a play to save both nodes instead of one. He could of put too much faith in the MM or underestimated the other team, who knows. Again, this is all just speculation, he could of just been a really crappy player too.
But i guess i should stop talking about the mesmer.
The future system seems to be set up so that after a point, crappy players won’t be able to move higher. I’m assuming at the middle of the tiers, there’ll be a split where the lower half of the 3rd tier/division is crappy players and the top half is decent players. even if the crappy players can’t go back down, they’ll just be stuck in the lower half of the tier/division so you’ll only deal with them if you drop down to the lower half of that tier/division when you’re on your slump and have to grind your way back up to the top half and hopefully to the next tier/division so you’ll never see them at all during the season.
alright cool, if thats how people play mesmer and thief i can accept that. Im just wondering about the people free shooting though.
I thank you for the feed back and what your saying for 2 vs 2 situations and the process you go threw. I might have tunnel vision on this so i accept being wrong but i felt it was crazy to leave me in a 2 vs 2 when i can fight on the point and the thief or mesmer could of been fighting the engy or ranger free shooting me. Also my friend was at mid in a 2 vs 2 and on legacy isnt this where mesmers have a advantage in range and in invisibility?
Alright i guess im ready to drop my thoughts on it, thanks for the insight
When you enter those AG and ESL tournaments the most important thing is winning all the even fights no matter the classes.
No.. The most important thing is winning the even fights with the right classes.
That’s what rotations are all about. You got map rotations & class rotations inside the map rotations, which most ppl dont rly get yet. Certainly when playing with other SoloQ’ers.
Ele + Warr vs Thief + Engi. Who do u think has the biggest chance of winning?
Exactly.
Also, AG and ESL are NOT SoloQ.
I was talking about SoloQ experience.
Team Experience is something else because you can call for help through TS from anyone else.
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