Guild Wars 2

Hi,
So I’m usually doing some TPvPs when I get back from the university, and since yesterday I’m having some Inet problems (dissconnects for like 2 minutes and then works again).
As I said I had this problem since 2 days, I’ve been dissconected from a TPvP match yesterday which was about to end, and when I logged in again I wanted to join another match but I noticed that I couldn’t due to a debuff “Dishonorable”.

It did last for something like 10 hours or less. Anyway I played again and ironicly I had another dissconnect just when the game was about to end and I had such cool stats…

I logged in again, this time I got a 1Day 20 hours penalty…so now I’m kinda stuck and can’t do what I like in this game.

There should be a smart system that prevents these kind of punishments, let’s be logic :
Imagine you have top stats, your team is winning 450-260 on battle of kyhlo, you can hardly think of leaving on purpose…that would just be dumb right ?

Idk…I think it’s pretty unfair to the teams who lost because of 4 v 5.

If your internet is unstable, you should probably stick to hotjoins.

Dahkeus.8243:

Idk…I think it’s pretty unfair to the teams who lost because of 4 v 5.

If your internet is unstable, you should probably stick to hotjoins.

^^this

when i lag i don’t do ranked

I play tPvP even when I lag, its a gamble but the PvP dailies need to get done.

This is the first game i played where there is an extreme and hard punishment for leaving a queue or a game. It’s also a game without any way of surrendering the game, no vote for surrender or anything, so u need to “eat” the full bad experience.
Atleast let the losers surrender and move on…

Dahkeus.8243:

Idk…I think it’s pretty unfair to the teams who lost because of 4 v 5.

If your internet is unstable, you should probably stick to hotjoins.

It wasn’t a 4v5 match since I’ve been dissconnected in the last 30 secs or something and still it isn’t unfair since our team won even with a “4v5”.

That’s why I’m asking for a smart leaver punishment, like you don’t punish someone who leaves in the last 20 seconds even if his team is winning.

Malediktus.9250:

I play tPvP even when I lag, its a gamble but the PvP dailies need to get done.

You nailed it. Time gated activities.

Malediktus.9250:

I play tPvP even when I lag, its a gamble but the PvP dailies need to get done.

Why do pvp dailies need to get done again?

It takes 30 minutes to do a daily pvp in hot joins…

“This is totally unfair…” you’re right!
you wasted 4 peoples time by joining a game with unstable internet,
but then you chose to waste 4 more peoples time.
that is indeed very unfair, why has 8 peoples time been wasted because of you?

if your internet is unstable then don’t do tournaments, hotjoin is still there if you need your fix/daily

RoRo.8270:

Malediktus.9250:

I play tPvP even when I lag, its a gamble but the PvP dailies need to get done.

Why do pvp dailies need to get done again?

Because I need to get my achievement points up to compete in the top 30 of the achievement leaderboard.

Malediktus.9250:

Because I need to get my achievement points up to compete in the top 30 of the achievement leaderboard.

how about those players who need balanced matches to keep up their leaderboard position?

It’s not unfair at all. It’s not like you get one dishonored and banned. Isn’t it three over a couple of days? And if you can get back int finish the match it won’t count as dishonored even though you weren’t logged in for 98% of the match. If your connection is that bad that you disconnected so much that you missed the end of three matches in a couple day period you deserve it for insisting on playing rated with bad internet.

Malediktus.9250:

I play tPvP even when I lag, its a gamble but the PvP dailies need to get done.

Average pve hero….

Yes average pve hero who is almost rank 49 without farming hotjoin

Malediktus.9250:

Yes average pve hero who is almost rank 49 without farming hotjoin

You’re so cute….r65 with 4.5k+ tournaments and playing only pvp since beta here…so? Going tpvp while lagging and knowing you can dc and leave your mates 4v5 just for stupid achievements should be punished..probably dishonor is not even enough for ppl like you…if you want to farm achivements pve and wvw are there for you. Even if since 2 months i only go pug in tpvp i always play for win no matter if my team is bad or not even if we get terrible matchmaking vs premades…if ppl want a competitive game they should always play for their team and for win otherwise they could delete tpvp already…no wonder why competitive side in this game is almost dead..

Archaon.6245:

Malediktus.9250:

Yes average pve hero who is almost rank 49 without farming hotjoin

You’re so cute….r65 with 4.5k+ tournaments and playing only pvp since beta here…so? Going tpvp while lagging and knowing you can dc and leave your mates 4v5 just for stupid achievements should be punished..probably dishonor is not even enough for ppl like you…if you want to farm achivements pve and wvw are there for you. Even if since 2 months i only go pug in tpvp i always play for win no matter if my team is bad or not even if we get terrible matchmaking vs premades…if ppl want a competitive game they should always play for their team and for win otherwise they could delete tpvp already…no wonder why competitive side in this game is almost dead..

You sound like a kitten tbh

Dahkeus.8243:

Idk…I think it’s pretty unfair to the teams who lost because of 4 v 5.

If your internet is unstable, you should probably stick to hotjoins.

4v5s aren’t good.
Sure.
We all know that.
We all know that in GW2 ranks mean literally nothing so ‘ranked queue’ is the normals queue of any other game.
We all know that no other game punishes players as heavily as GW2.

Internet issues are a part of every online game.
No other game is as quick to punish leavers with day+ bans as GW2.
Yet other game’s normals queues aren’t drowning in 4v5s…

Lo and behold… these people aren’t your issue. This isn’t the issue.
Punishing these internet hicups is only hurting part of the legitimate playerbase.

The issue with GW2, the reason why there are so many 4v5s and you guys are so torn up is elsewhere.
Fix what’s broken, QQ about the queue setup.

Archaon.6245:

Malediktus.9250:

Yes average pve hero who is almost rank 49 without farming hotjoin

You’re so cute….r65 with 4.5k+ tournaments and playing only pvp since beta here…so? Going tpvp while lagging and knowing you can dc and leave your mates 4v5 just for stupid achievements should be punished..probably dishonor is not even enough for ppl like you…if you want to farm achivements pve and wvw are there for you. Even if since 2 months i only go pug in tpvp i always play for win no matter if my team is bad or not even if we get terrible matchmaking vs premades…if ppl want a competitive game they should always play for their team and for win otherwise they could delete tpvp already…no wonder why competitive side in this game is almost dead..

Not my fault anet added these dailies.
And I think my 1.5k tourneys are above average, too.

Malediktus.9250:

Archaon.6245:

Malediktus.9250:

Yes average pve hero who is almost rank 49 without farming hotjoin

You’re so cute….r65 with 4.5k+ tournaments and playing only pvp since beta here…so? Going tpvp while lagging and knowing you can dc and leave your mates 4v5 just for stupid achievements should be punished..probably dishonor is not even enough for ppl like you…if you want to farm achivements pve and wvw are there for you. Even if since 2 months i only go pug in tpvp i always play for win no matter if my team is bad or not even if we get terrible matchmaking vs premades…if ppl want a competitive game they should always play for their team and for win otherwise they could delete tpvp already…no wonder why competitive side in this game is almost dead..

Not my fault anet added these dailies.
And I think my 1.5k tourneys are above average, too.

Honestly, I love the new dailies. Achievement farmers don’t get their achievements if they don’t win the tournament matches. That’s a nice incentive to play to win. I’d even go so far as to say that a higher percentage of achievement hunters are playing to win than other people because of this.

I despise them because even if you achieve 100% win rate it takes 2hours per day.

Malediktus.9250:

I despise them because even if you achieve 100% win rate it takes 2hours per day.

I know why you despise them, but I couldn’t care less about farming achievement points. I’m just happy for the increased pvp population that is composed of people trying to win.

garethh.3518:

Dahkeus.8243:

Idk…I think it’s pretty unfair to the teams who lost because of 4 v 5.

If your internet is unstable, you should probably stick to hotjoins.

4v5s aren’t good.
Sure.
We all know that.
We all know that in GW2 ranks mean literally nothing so ‘ranked queue’ is the normals queue of any other game.
We all know that no other game punishes players as heavily as GW2.

Internet issues are a part of every online game.
No other game is as quick to punish leavers with day+ bans as GW2.
Yet other game’s normals queues aren’t drowning in 4v5s…

Lo and behold… these people aren’t your issue. This isn’t the issue.
Punishing these internet hicups is only hurting part of the legitimate playerbase.

The issue with GW2, the reason why there are so many 4v5s and you guys are so torn up is elsewhere.
Fix what’s broken, QQ about the queue setup.

Setting aside the fact that your post was barely comprehensible, I disagree: ANet’s network code is pretty good, and I don’t experience any more lag or connectivity problems than with any other MMO. The reason why more people APPEAR to have disconnection problems in GW2 than in other MMOs is that few MMOs have 10-player pvp modes that are as popular with the playerbase. To use just the example of WoW, pvp was a far less popular activity there, and of the pvpers a lot of them preferred 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 anyway, where because of the lower number of players it’s less likely that one will disconnect.

The fact is, there are a lot of players who have unstable connections, whetehr it’s because of where they live, because they share a connection with lots of other people in their house and it’s overloaded, because they’re too lazy to hook up a wire to their computer room and they use wifi from 2 floors up and with 7 walls between them and their router, because they choose to play GW2 on a server 6000km away from them instead of choosing their home district, or for whatever other reason. This is an issue in other games as well, but

In a lot of cases there are simple, inexpensive things you can do to improve your connection. You can ask your housemates not to torrent anything for the 1 hour a day you’re playing, if you suspect that’s what’s making your connection flakey. You can buy long network cables so you doin’t need to rely on wifi for not much money. You can log on to play when it’s not peak time for your area. If you’re not doing these simple things, and just sign up for tournaments on a flakey connection, I have no sympathy for you at all, you deserve the dishonourable debuffs, and in fact I wish they were branded onto your foreheads irl rather than simply on your status bar in-game.

However, I realise that for some people it’s simply because they live 2,000 miles off the edge of the middle of nowhere, where broadband is still powered by steam engines that keep running out of coal and cogs that keep breaking, and there’s nothing they can personally do to make their connection more reliable. And yeah, for those people it is kinda unfair, and I feel for them. But on balance, I would have to say it’s a lot more unfair for their teammates than it is for them, simply because there’s FOUR of them! So rather than making 5 people sad by playing and disconnecting, there’s less unfairness all-round if you just make yourself sad by not playing.

Alternatively, there is one thing you can do: play GW1 instead, which used a lot less bandwidth and had the most robust network code of any online game ever! :p